Any thoughts on balancing the budget?
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So far, I definately think that having Ron Paul and Obama in this 2012 election would give us a good debate. I'm still new to this but apparently his son (Rand Paul) is running for Senate as well. In my mind if we can balance the budget then we can think about possibly hanging on to social security. It's not in here but I thought I remember reading or seeing something on youtube about Ron Paul speaking about getting rid of the federal reserve. I think he was just trying to bring an argument up in an idealistic fashion. But I cannot agree with getting rid of the federal reserve. But I can agree with Rand Paul when he says that there will be no government bailouts even on large banks. I just think that at this point in time something like that seems fair. Especially with people who have made bad loans.
Rand Paul's video here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008 ... Zs-BRG8o7Y
So far, I definately think that having Ron Paul and Obama in this 2012 election would give us a good debate. I'm still new to this but apparently his son (Rand Paul) is running for Senate as well. In my mind if we can balance the budget then we can think about possibly hanging on to social security. It's not in here but I thought I remember reading or seeing something on youtube about Ron Paul speaking about getting rid of the federal reserve. I think he was just trying to bring an argument up in an idealistic fashion. But I cannot agree with getting rid of the federal reserve. But I can agree with Rand Paul when he says that there will be no government bailouts even on large banks. I just think that at this point in time something like that seems fair. Especially with people who have made bad loans.
Rand Paul's video here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008 ... Zs-BRG8o7Y
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I believe that balancing the budget is definitely a step in the right direction, but it's worthless unless this practice is maintained over the course of several presidencies. Clinton had a budget surplus, but the US was still trillions in debt to the rest of the world under him. Things have gotten much worse with Bush and now with Obama. Under the current system, being in debt is an inevitability. Every dollar is created with debt attached. Unless you got rid of the Federal Reserve, this country will always be in debt to someone else, be it private bankers on our own soil, foreign soil, or other central banks. Right now, the entire fate of our economy rests on the Chinese as they are holding more of our money than anyone else. It's a very precarious position to be in, considering that they could decide that our currency is worthless (which it is, thanks to The Fed), or demand repyament of the debt.
More important than actually balancing the budget is that the inflation stops, meaning expansion of the money supply, which the Fed does unchecked every chance it gets. Entire empires have collapsed due to the devaluation of the currency. Really all of this talk about balanced budgets, debt, and deficits are nothing more than huge FAKE numbers. The only thing that is real at this point is confidence in the currency, and it's becoming less real by the day. Reducing deficits and debt only restores confidence in the system, and in a system based strictly on confidence, this is needed. The more these numbers grow, the more unrealistic the chances of this phony debt being repaid. Although the debt is phony, the severe consequences of a run on the dollar are VERY REAL, and again, the fate of our country relies in the hands of other countries. And guess what? We're not a very popular nation at the moment...
As far as social security goes, it should be privatized if an individual so chooses, and should also be permitted to be held in the government account if that's what a person chooses to do with his or her money. Considering the current social security system is trillions in debt by itself because it is constantly raided for other out-of-control government spending, I would personally choose to have that money to manage myself. Privatization of social security does not necessarily equal managed by Wall Street. It can, but it should be up to the individual where their money goes. Your Social Security is CURRENTLY far more managed by Wall Street, than if a person was allowed to keep that portion of his or her paycheck for future expenditures.
I can't emphasize it enough. The best way to stop the spending, and thus the wars would be to get rid of the monster that is able to print money out of thin air, that is legally counterfeit and give it to whomever they choose without disclosure.
I'm all for getting rid of the Fed, replacing it with sound money based on either a single, or multiple commodities of the market's choosing, OR, possibly for fiat money with only a fixed amount of it available. Fraud must again be criminalized, meaning banks have to play by the same rules as the rest of us.
I like Rand. Not as much as Ron, though. He's a bit more hawkish, and a bit less principled, but I have a feeling that he may be politicking and playing to the "conservative" wing of the Tea Party a bit more than the old man. Ron Paul 2012 all the way.
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When it costs you more than a penny to produce a penny, then you're already demonstrating that math and economics weren't your best subjects in school
It's not how much we spending...But where we are spending it.
That's what's got us under the Lion's paw right now.
Re-Focusing our attention on the domestic...Spending on stuff that effects us right here at home.
Infustructure,Industry, Innovation, Education, and Jobs.
Not some Overseas circle jerk conflict to which we have no business, context, understanding, or purpose.
No return...No Reward...No point.
having the strongest military on the planet gives it political leverage against any country in the world....they can dictate to them simply by using the threat of violence. but it also pushes the arena toward that as that is where the US has the upper hand. Elder Bush's line in the lead up to first gulf war, "there will be no negotiotions". of course not, negotiations are for the weak.
but as US economic might dwindles its reliance on its military increases, and that's a big deal. in an arrangement that already favored violence, it is being pushed even closer to it simply because economic pressure might not be enough anymore, as was the case with Iraq, as is the case with Iran. i also think a big reason why afghanstan was chosen is because it has the potential to cut Iran out of the european oil market, were a pipeline to go through it, giving Washington its economic leverage again. but that's something else.
if you want to talk about balancing the budget perhaps scaling back some on this empire and putting more effort inside the US borders, that could go a long way.
The next time these warmongers spend so much energy trying to whip up war fever amongst the gullible populace it would be nice if the general public grew some balls and brains and told the politicians to go and do the fighting that they themselves crave so much. If the warmongers are really so brave and passionate about killing poor people overseas then they surely wouldn't be able to object to being parachuted onto the front lines to show us all just how tough and 'patriotic' they are when it comes to defending 'our freedoms'?
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I wonder how eager these politicians would be for foreign invasions if they knew they'd have to lead from the front? Somehow I think there'd be fewer wars in the world.
I always felt that it should be a law that the Government leaders' own sons and daughters be the first to deploy to the war zone. I'd hope then that they'd work overtime to be sure there is PEACE.
As for the budget, stop spending money that isn't there, stop selling pieces of America away and stop borrowing.
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True.
The U.N was created to try and put an end to wars of conquest and occupation. Unfortunately the U.N has been hijacked and now falls far short of it's original purpose.
It also doesn't help that the people with the least imagination and/or empathy amongst us - politicians - are also those who happen to be responsible for making the decisions regarding war/peace. Maybe Socrates had a point when he said that the rulers of any country should be the philosophers. Politicians are pretty much just businessmen. It's not really in their nature to see beyond their own noses, and it's too easy for these people to make decisions that effect the lives of others whilst viewing everything through the comfort of a computer or t.v screen.
The consequences of their decisions don't affect them and can be conveniently brushed aside like yesterdays newspapers. The words 'A million dead Iraqi's' are just that: words.
If they were forced to make a personal contribution then they probably wouldn't be so blasé about it.
(Seems like blasé is my word of the day today :P )
That just leaves Rumsfelds, Bush's, Cheney's, Wolfowitz's, Rice's, Perles, Powell's, e.t.c, e.t.c. Still, I think what's being suggested is that they are forced by law to deploy either themselves or a family member.
Obviously it will never happen, but it's a nice thought.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Like Iraq?
I'd argue that we'd be better off if many of these people didn't make any more decisions that cost the lives of millions of others.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
That reminds me of Fahrenheit 9/11 when Michael Moore approached politicians in D.C. and asked them if they'd be willing to sign their kids up to fight in the war they voted for. If I remember it correctly - and I may not, it has been years since I saw it - not a single one did, and most of them wouldn't even entertain the thought.