* * * * The National Football League - 2011 * * * *

Ledbetterman10

jimed14 wrote:

So, if they abolished the divisions, there should be no reason to play any team twice ... how would you realign the schedules?

How do you feel about the increase in travel on an already tight schedule?

Abolish division CHAMPIONS getting a playoff spot. Keep the divisions the same for rivalry/scheduling reasons as well as to credit someone as "division champion" with a banner in the rafters or whatever. But this notion of the least crappy of 4 crappy teams (this year's Broncos, last year's Seahawks) getting a playoff spot is silly. And I have no sympathy for the Steelers who deserved to lose and lost. I have sympathy for the 9-7 Titans. Or last year's 10-6 Bucs. Those teams simply earned a playoff spot more than the teams that won crappy divisions...in my opinion.

jimed14

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

So, if they abolished the divisions, there should be no reason to play any team twice ... how would you realign the schedules?

How do you feel about the increase in travel on an already tight schedule?

Abolish division CHAMPIONS getting a playoff spot. Keep the divisions the same for rivalry/scheduling reason as well as to credit someone as "division champion" with a banner in the rafters or whatever. But this notion of the least crappy of 4 crappy teams (this year's Broncos, last year's Seahawks) getting a playoff spot is silly.

What's the point of being called a division champion if it doesn't mean a playoff spot? That seems even more silly to me.

If you are going to get rid of the notion that a division champion is guaranteed a playoff spot, there is no reason for divisions what so ever.

polaris_x

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

So, if they abolished the divisions, there should be no reason to play any team twice ... how would you realign the schedules?

How do you feel about the increase in travel on an already tight schedule?

Abolish division CHAMPIONS getting a playoff spot. Keep the divisions the same for rivalry/scheduling reasons as well as to credit someone as "division champion" with a banner in the rafters or whatever. But this notion of the least crappy of 4 crappy teams (this year's Broncos, last year's Seahawks) getting a playoff spot is silly. And I have no sympathy for the Steelers who deserved to lose and lost. I have sympathy for the 9-7 Titans. Or last year's 10-6 Bucs. Those teams simply earned a playoff spot more than the teams that won crappy divisions...in my opinion.

yes ... i concur ... at most division champs should be is a tie-breaker ...

Ledbetterman10

jimed14 wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

So, if they abolished the divisions, there should be no reason to play any team twice ... how would you realign the schedules?

How do you feel about the increase in travel on an already tight schedule?

Abolish division CHAMPIONS getting a playoff spot. Keep the divisions the same for rivalry/scheduling reason as well as to credit someone as "division champion" with a banner in the rafters or whatever. But this notion of the least crappy of 4 crappy teams (this year's Broncos, last year's Seahawks) getting a playoff spot is silly.

What's the point of being called a division champion if it doesn't mean a playoff spot? That seems even more silly to me.

If you are going to get rid of the notion that a division champion is guaranteed a playoff spot, there is no reason for divisions what so ever.

Look, I just don't like teams not making the playoffs when they have better records than a team that does make it. That's all I'm saying. Do what ya want with the divisions or no divisions or whatever. But last year, watching the 7-9 Seahawks play while the two 10-6 teams from tougher divisions sat home just didn't seem fair. The Bucs were 10-6 last year in a division that had two playoff teams and they swept the entire NFC West. Yet the Seahawks, as the least crappy of those crappy NFC West teams get a playoff spot and a chance to win the Super Bowl. It just seems illogical from a competition standpoint.

jimed14

Just asking for a solution, that's all.

It's not easy to resolve when everything is taken into account. That's all I'm saying.

Ledbetterman10

jimed14 wrote:

Just asking for a solution, that's all.

It's not easy to resolve when everything is taken into account. That's all I'm saying.

Alright well one solution could be to make each conference into two 6-team divisions. Both the division champions could get the first round byes and then there could be four wildcards. And then seed those wildcards 3-6 by record. This doesn't totally eliminate the possibility of a crappy division champion...but it's as close as ya can could get. Like...there could be a division with a champion and 4 wildcards while the other division, if it sucks, would just have the division champion. But that seems to be unlikely. Since going to four divisions in 2002, there have been 3 instances where teams 8-8 or worse have won a division. Prior to that when there were 3 divisions, it only happened once in the 80's.

polaris_x

the denver broncos got home field advantage in the first rd of this year's playoffs despite having a scoring defecit of -81 pts ...

Heisenberg

polaris_x wrote:

the denver broncos got home field advantage in the first rd of this year's playoffs despite having a scoring defecit of -81 pts ...

I don't think it was the home field advantage that cost the Steelers the game. I think it had something to do with the fact that Demaryus Thomas blew by the entire secondary on the first play of OT and that the "steel curtain" couldn't stop a QB with the precision and accuracy of a high school quarterback. Besides, Steeler fans love to brag about how they "travel better than any team in the league" so really Steeler fans, stop whining about your "disadvantages". For once even getting the calls didn't bail you out.

norm

Heisenberg wrote:

a QB with the precision and accuracy of a high school quarterback.

giving him too much credit...i've seen 8 year old pop warner qb's throw better and more accurately than tebow

Jason P

I say each division champ gets a playoff spot but then seeding is based on your record.

Ta-da! :angel:

polaris_x

Heisenberg wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

the denver broncos got home field advantage in the first rd of this year's playoffs despite having a scoring defecit of -81 pts ...

I don't think it was the home field advantage that cost the Steelers the game. I think it had something to do with the fact that Demaryus Thomas blew by the entire secondary on the first play of OT and that the "steel curtain" couldn't stop a QB with the precision and accuracy of a high school quarterback. Besides, Steeler fans love to brag about how they "travel better than any team in the league" so really Steeler fans, stop whining about your "disadvantages". For once even getting the calls didn't bail you out.

it's definitely not the reason why the steelers lost ... i'm not a steelers fan by any stretch ... it's merely the context by which the larger discussion was framed ...

having said that - i think the steelers would win that game at home ...

Indifference71

Jason P wrote:

I say each division champ gets a playoff spot but then seeding is based on your record.

Ta-da! :angel:

That would be the logical move.

tybird

Heisenberg wrote:

awww...poor Pittsburgh. They had to play at Denver when they had a better record. They had a QB with a bum ankle that miraculously only seemed to hurt when the cameras were on him. They didn't have their starting RB, they forgot to play defense on the first play of overtime....WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Suck it up Pittsburgh. Despite the refs best attempt at keeping you in the game (that bullshit quick whistle on what was clearly a backward pass) you're still going home early. But look on the bright side, now Big Ben has an extra few weeks to molest unsuspecting college girls so it's not all bad news.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

The Fixer

OSHKOSH, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin's son is missing.

Police in Oshkosh say 21-year-old Michael T. Philbin of Ripon was last heard from around 2 a.m. Sunday. He had been visiting friends in Oshkosh that evening. He was reported missing on Sunday evening.

A police spokesman did not immediately return a message left Monday seeking additional comment.

A Brown County judge sentenced Michael Philbin to six months in jail in 2009 after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls and two counts of battery.

His disappearance comes as the Packers prepare to face the New York Giants in an NFC playoff game Sunday in Green Bay.

mickeyrat

Heisenberg wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

the denver broncos got home field advantage in the first rd of this year's playoffs despite having a scoring defecit of -81 pts ...

I don't think it was the home field advantage that cost the Steelers the game. I think it had something to do with the fact that Demaryus Thomas blew by the entire secondary on the first play of OT and that the "steel curtain" couldn't stop a QB with the precision and accuracy of a high school quarterback. Besides, Steeler fans love to brag about how they "travel better than any team in the league" so really Steeler fans, stop whining about your "disadvantages". For once even getting the calls didn't bail you out.

Tell the truth Heis. You're just pissed that the browns were th eonly nonplayoff AFC North team!!!

I look forward to the groth the brownies will most ceratinly experience. Now if the Bengals can build on their success this year ,we will have the best division in football , bar none.

Heisenberg

mickeyrat wrote:

Tell the truth Heis. You're just pissed that the browns were th eonly nonplayoff AFC North team!!!

I look forward to the groth the brownies will most ceratinly experience. Now if the Bengals can build on their success this year ,we will have the best division in football , bar none.

No comment

and growth in Cleveland? Did Big Ben slip you some roofies Mickey? We don't grow in Cleveland, we stagnate in suckitude. It's the only thing we are good at.

norm

The Fixer wrote:

OSHKOSH, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin's son is missing.

Police in Oshkosh say 21-year-old Michael T. Philbin of Ripon was last heard from around 2 a.m. Sunday. He had been visiting friends in Oshkosh that evening. He was reported missing on Sunday evening.

A police spokesman did not immediately return a message left Monday seeking additional comment.

A Brown County judge sentenced Michael Philbin to six months in jail in 2009 after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls and two counts of battery.

His disappearance comes as the Packers prepare to face the New York Giants in an NFC playoff game Sunday in Green Bay.

he died

https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/stat ... 4680815616

mickeyrat

Heisenberg wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Tell the truth Heis. You're just pissed that the browns were th eonly nonplayoff AFC North team!!!

I look forward to the groth the brownies will most ceratinly experience. Now if the Bengals can build on their success this year ,we will have the best division in football , bar none.

No comment

and growth in Cleveland? Did Big Ben slip you some roofies Mickey? We don't grow in Cleveland, we stagnate in suckitude. It's the only thing we are good at.

hahahha. no , no roofies. I'm just optimistic. Cleveland CANT suck the knowledge out your GM/VP can they? I personally think, once you guys get over the hump, you're there. And you guys ARE right there near the top of the hump. Just a little more oomph, then top to bottom we have THE division in the NFL.

The Juggler

anyone else find the josh mcdaniels storyline pretty entertaining?

guy's on his 3rd team in about 1 year.

from coach of the broncos and drafting tim tebow
to rams offensive coordinator
to ne's offensive assistant (soon to be coordinator) and running the scout to team in preparation to face tim tebow.

that's pretty crazy.



also will be pretty crazy if the pats don't win by 2 touchdowns...

The Fixer

norm wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

OSHKOSH, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin's son is missing.

Police in Oshkosh say 21-year-old Michael T. Philbin of Ripon was last heard from around 2 a.m. Sunday. He had been visiting friends in Oshkosh that evening. He was reported missing on Sunday evening.

A police spokesman did not immediately return a message left Monday seeking additional comment.

A Brown County judge sentenced Michael Philbin to six months in jail in 2009 after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls and two counts of battery.

His disappearance comes as the Packers prepare to face the New York Giants in an NFC playoff game Sunday in Green Bay.

he died

https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/stat ... 4680815616

yeah, just saw that. sounds like the dude had his share of issues