ICE Chief Morton to Field: See No Illegal Aliens

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ICE Chief Morton to Field: See No Illegal Aliens


http://cis.org/vaughan/see-no-illegal-aliens

By Jessica Vaughan, August 19, 2010
ICE's misleadingly-named Office of State and Local Cooperation (OSLC) has announced the next step in the Obama administration's efforts to drastically diminish the scope of immigration law enforcement. According to a draft policy document now being circulated among a limited group of stakeholders, ICE chief John Morton intends to prohibit not only his officers, but also local officers with 287(g) immigration authority, from busting illegal aliens who are discovered as a result of traffic violations.

Never mind that local patrol officers around the country routinely come across unlicensed illegal alien drivers in unsafe and/or uninsured vehicles, sometimes transporting vanloads of smuggled and illegally employed aliens with stolen identities. Forget the 9/11 terrorists, the Ft. Dix plotters, the Times Square bomber's money brokers, and the many other notorious illegal aliens who have driven our streets without fear of encountering local cops or immigration law enforcement. Don't mention that the Colorado State Patrol has eliminated (knock on wood) alien smuggling-related traffic fatalities by implementing a 287(g) program that removed illegal aliens caught driving unsafely on Colorado highways (see "The 287(g) Program: Protecting Hometowns and Homeland").

According to the draft document's cover e-mail from Ann Yom Steel, a political appointee whose mission seems to be to harass and discourage local agencies who want to help ICE and who want ICE to help them, the agency is responding to the "many concerns [of immigration law enforcement critics] related to immigration detainers, including that they could distort the state criminal process or open the window for pretextual, minor criminal charges." In other words, ICE believes the ethnic advocacy groups who accuse local cops and sheriffs of abusing their authority by trumping up traffic charges on innocent illegal aliens in order to have them deported. Therefore, all illegal aliens who violate traffic laws will get a free pass from ICE, unless they also happen to have committed other "real" crimes. The policy draft says: "Immigration officers shall not issue a detainer unless an LEA [law enforcement agency] has exercised its independent authority to arrest the alien. Immigration officers shall not issue detainers for aliens who have been temporarily detained by the LEA (i.e. roadside or Terry stops) but not arrested," although the LEA may hold them without a detainer if ICE is coming right away (don't hold your breath).

Morton has already implemented a "catch and release" policy, whereby ICE catches removable aliens in jails or through local arrests, and then releases all but the most serious offenders from custody. Making matters worse, ICE agents are now defaulting to the most time-consuming deportation process – even obviously removable aliens are routinely dumped on the overloaded immigration court dockets to await hearings before an immigration judge – instead of using the perfectly legal and more efficient administrative procedures available to them to remove an illegal alien. This means that even criminal aliens can hang around for many months after they are discovered. While in proceedings they are usually free to continue their life of crime or impaired driving, as was the case with Carlos Montano, the drunk and illegal driver who recently killed a nun in Virginia. A very large share will not bother to show up for the immigration hearing when the day finally arrives. It's no wonder that the number of aliens removed this year is noticeably lower than last year.

But this policy goes farther, stipulating that ICE will not even take a look at the illegal aliens who expose themselves to law enforcement by committing a traffic violation. And, neither will those local officers who have discovered lots of illegal aliens in the course of enforcing traffic laws.

The locals are rightly upset. For one thing, Congress never intended for ICE to micromanage the 287(g) agencies in this way. One local officer had this to say about the proposed policy: "Just as many of us suspected, the introduction of Harold Hurtt [Yom Steel's boss, the embattled ex-police chief who kept Houston as a sanctuary city until several of his officers were killed by illegal aliens] as the director of OSLC is leading to policy proposals and changes that will slowly chip away from the little power we have at a local level to try and control the influx of illegal immigrants. Soon, the administration will make so many changes, they will then claim there is no longer any need for 287(g) and we will be back to where we were years ago – with no ability to identify illegal immigrants, beyond the ineffective Secure Communities, in our jails. That will, once again, place a larger burden on our local governments and place our citizens in danger."

Ann Yom Steel is collecting comments on the proposed policy, and you can submit them to her at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:ann.yom@dhs.gov">ann.yom@dhs.gov</a><!-- e -->, no later than September 30, 2010.



Does the Obama administration even want to enforce our Immigration laws ? The same could be said about past administrations as well.
Isn't it the number one job of the federal and state Gov to protect it's citizens. ?
This is freaking nuts !!! :wtf: :shock:
Is it just me or is our justice dept trying to undermine federal Law ?
I think this is mayhem because it's definitly not law and order..
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Hasn't Obama already arrested/deported more illegals than GWB did?
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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    It might hurt somebodys feelings
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  • so it's back to the illegals now.

    it would appear that the 'mosque' hating is no longer the flavour of the month.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    keep up the great work CIS and prfctlefts
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    This is how i like my fear mongering, irrational and with a hint of craziness :)
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    so it's back to the illegals now.

    it would appear that the 'mosque' hating is no longer the flavour of the month.
    yeah they must have switched it up on Fox.
  • so it's back to the illegals now.

    it would appear that the 'mosque' hating is no longer the flavour of the month.

    I'm not one of those who think the entire tea party is racists, but the distraction stories that the right media pushes, definitely have race in common. Instead of "look, it's a shiny object", it's "look, it's brown people doing stuff we don't like".

    Look at the right wing headline grabbers the past few months...

    black panther "controversy"
    illegal Mexicans
    Shirley Sherrod
    illegal Mexicans
    ground zero mosque
    ground zero mosque
    ground zero mosque
    Obama's a Muslim poll


    Race-baiting works for ratings, I guess...
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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  • so it's back to the illegals now.

    it would appear that the 'mosque' hating is no longer the flavour of the month.

    I'm not one of those who think the entire tea party is racists, but the distraction stories that the right media pushes, definitely have race in common. Instead of "look, it's a shiny object", it's "look, it's brown people doing stuff we don't like".

    Look at the right wing headline grabbers the past few months...

    black panther "controversy"
    illegal Mexicans
    Shirley Sherrod
    illegal Mexicans
    ground zero mosque
    ground zero mosque
    ground zero mosque
    Obama's a Muslim poll


    Race-baiting works for ratings, I guess...
    it would appear to be that way :(
  • Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....
    nice....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Perhaps some people don't dellude themselves into the catch phrase/hot topic of the week?? 24 hr cable news (no matter what way they lean) is the invention of news and a way to frame debate... it dumbs down the audience and takes focus away from the real issues and solutions. It polarizes and diminishes all in society...and it shows in how you ended this comment. So perhaps if you'd like to have an open and honest discussion of immigration problems, it won't start from a silly law from this year but we can discuss the long lived issues it encompasses and why it really is such an uneasy issue to come out with a clear viable solution to fix.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....


    You assume a lot of things, don't you?
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • FiveB247x wrote:
    Perhaps some people don't dellude themselves into the catch phrase/hot topic of the week?? 24 hr cable news (no matter what way they lean) is the invention of news and a way to frame debate... it dumbs down the audience and takes focus away from the real issues and solutions. It polarizes and diminishes all in society...and it shows in how you ended this comment. So perhaps if you'd like to have an open and honest discussion of immigration problems, it won't start from a silly law from this year but we can discuss the long lived issues it encompasses and why it really is such an uneasy issue to come out with a clear viable solution to fix.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....

    Dillude myself ?? I don't know what you're even talking about. Silly law ? So I guess federal Immigration law is silly to then bcos there's really no difference.
    Did you even read the article ??

    Were talking about Illegals getting a pass from Ice when they are stopped for a traffic violations and Morton has already implemented a "catch and release" policy, whereby ICE catches removable aliens in jails or through local arrests, and then releases all but the most serious offenders from custody.
    and your'e ok with this ? This is just more prooof that the federal gov does not want to enforce the law.
    Obviously you and others on here don't understand or just don't care about how big of a problem illegal immigration is.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Perhaps some people don't dellude themselves into the catch phrase/hot topic of the week?? 24 hr cable news (no matter what way they lean) is the invention of news and a way to frame debate... it dumbs down the audience and takes focus away from the real issues and solutions. It polarizes and diminishes all in society...and it shows in how you ended this comment. So perhaps if you'd like to have an open and honest discussion of immigration problems, it won't start from a silly law from this year but we can discuss the long lived issues it encompasses and why it really is such an uneasy issue to come out with a clear viable solution to fix.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Why am I not suprised at the reaction from all of you.. Obvuiosly you must support this.. So in other words you dont support our laws or only when it's something that you agree with.

    God you libs are fucked up in the head....

    Dillude myself ?? I don't know what you're even talking about. Silly law ? So I guess federal Immigration law is silly to then bcos there's really no difference.
    Did you even read the article ??

    Were talking about Illegals getting a pass from Ice when they are stopped for a traffic violations and Morton has already implemented a "catch and release" policy, whereby ICE catches removable aliens in jails or through local arrests, and then releases all but the most serious offenders from custody.
    and your'e ok with this ? This is just more prooof that the federal gov does not want to enforce the law.
    Obviously you and others on here don't understand or just don't care about how big of a problem illegal immigration is.
    will you stop making such broad fucking assumptions please? this is twice on this very page you have done that. i understand it is a problem. but the question remains, what the hell are we going to do about it when we don't have the money to enforce the laws and send people back on taxpayer dollars, we can't afford to make a fence, and states like arizona are making blanket laws based on racial profiling. quite frankly, my priorities are getting the hell out of afghanistan, iraq, and everywhere else we have bases and troops, funding health care and education for all, and THEN maybe address illegal immigration. WE CAN NOT DO IT ALL RIGHT NOW AT ONE TIME WITHOUT RAISING TAXES, which you are against. so please, my tea party friends, make up your mind what you want the federal government to do instead of whining and complaining about a new issue every other day when the government has no time to address what you were complining about yesterday...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    here is why they will never do anything major on evicting illegals.

    money

    if they were to evict every last one.....

    rent rates would fall, making property less valuable. big property owners would lose money, property taxes would decrease, thus, .gov would lose money.

    business will lose sales, resulting in less sales tax for the .gov.

    at the end of the day, it's always about the money and the goverment is getting alot of money off the illegals (even if they aren't paying income taxes). and lets be honest, income taxes wouldn't amount to much, since most of these people are working low paying jobs. heck, they just might get a net refund of taxes if you included all the credits and deducitions.

    so there you have it. that is why nothing is going to be done.
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  • I'll reply later I have to go to work,
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Yes mostly because this current flash in the pan law does not really address the long term or core issue of immigration in our nation. It merely addresses one minor part in a very jaded and discriminatory manner. Overall, if you'd like to talk about immigration, you have to figure out the long term and short term laws, programs, policies and effects of putting everything in place. You attempt to make this issue black and white, but the reality is it's all very costly, would have a very negative effect on our economy and isn't a practical solution to the problem. But you equate that too "us not caring"? Maybe you should realize simply because others disagree with you, it isn't because you're more right or you care more, but sometimes there's more than one way to fix problems or the world isn't black and white as you like to present it, but all grey.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Dillude myself ?? I don't know what you're even talking about. Silly law ? So I guess federal Immigration law is silly to then bcos there's really no difference.
    Did you even read the article ??

    Were talking about Illegals getting a pass from Ice when they are stopped for a traffic violations and Morton has already implemented a "catch and release" policy, whereby ICE catches removable aliens in jails or through local arrests, and then releases all but the most serious offenders from custody.
    and your'e ok with this ? This is just more prooof that the federal gov does not want to enforce the law.
    Obviously you and others on here don't understand or just don't care about how big of a problem illegal immigration is.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    Run for your life!

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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    immigration doesn't need more laws, it need enforcement of current ones...or at least 20 years ago it did. it's too late now. there is no way we deport a million plus illegals. just won't happen
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