Why is it cool to be stupid?

Heineken Helen

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

chadwick

Heineken Helen wrote:

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

girls acting stupid?
who says they're acting?

Kilgore_Trout

i hate thick girls

Heineken Helen

chadwick wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

girls acting stupid?
who says they're acting?

But seriously... in a lot of cases they say silly things and flutter their eyelashes and laugh at themselves and I just think 'wow, you really didn't get hugged as a kid, eh?'

Maybe it's just where I work but there are more than a few examples of it there and now I'm starting to see it everywhere and in a lot of cases you KNOW they must know it's a stupid thing to say.

josevolution

That's nothing Helen here in NY all the chicks act like the bimbos from the Jersey Shore debacle .. :oops:

Heineken Helen

josevolution wrote:

That's nothing Helen here in NY all the chicks act like the bimbos from the Jersey Shore debacle .. :oops:

:oops: I just wanna shake them when they do it and ask 'why? For the love of god... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?' It makes no sense but it seems to be catching. I think it's cos of all the reality shows... the thick ones always do well.

Aero83_

Intelligent people will do stupid shit to fit in with the heard sometimes..
Of course in a work environment they may be acting stupid to reduce their workload.

Yep, can be irritating especially when they posses the answers.

josevolution

Heineken Helen wrote:

josevolution wrote:

That's nothing Helen here in NY all the chicks act like the bimbos from the Jersey Shore debacle .. :oops:

:oops: I just wanna shake them when they do it and ask 'why? For the love of god... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?' It makes no sense but it seems to be catching. I think it's cos of all the reality shows... the thick ones always do well.

Yeah the reality shows are just another nail in society's self respect coffin ..

haffajappa

Everyone has been jersey shored...

DreamOfAngels

This is where I would challenge my own thoughts. Maybe I'm the one that is missing out? I think where I am is the correct place to be. If everyone else is over there :arrow: and I'm not... maybe they know something I don't know. Maybe I'm the one in the wrong place?

I say be happy and be where you want to be and don't worry about whether they are with you or not. Regardless of how we got on this earth - we are different from one another. This is just one way people are different. I kind of like it that way. It's challenging sometimes to have to deal with people not thinking or behaving exactly how I think... but it's a good challenge overall and one that keeps life interesting.

I just want people to be nice. I don't like being challenged by mean, cruel or disrespectful people.

You could also look at it like this: If you aren't that way you are more likely to get promoted(?) and then you can fire them

Hairy Dane

A bit off topic perhaps, but have I been living under a (comfortable) rock, or isn't that Jersey Shore thingy just actors?

theserialthrilla

:oops: I just wanna shake them when they do it and ask 'why? For the love of god... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?' It makes no sense but it seems to be catching. I think it's cos of all the reality shows... the thick ones always do well.[/quote]



LOTS OF MONEYfootballer wifes/girlfriends or the likes of jordan..stupid but very rich.cant be that darft if its the money that makes them happy or thier 15 mins of fame

Heineken Helen

DreamOfAngels wrote:

This is where I would challenge my own thoughts. Maybe I'm the one that is missing out? I think where I am is the correct place to be. If everyone else is over there :arrow: and I'm not... maybe they know something I don't know. Maybe I'm the one in the wrong place?

I say be happy and be where you want to be and don't worry about whether they are with you or not. Regardless of how we got on this earth - we are different from one another. This is just one way people are different. I kind of like it that way. It's challenging sometimes to have to deal with people not thinking or behaving exactly how I think... but it's a good challenge overall and one that keeps life interesting.

I just want people to be nice. I don't like being challenged by mean, cruel or disrespectful people.

You could also look at it like this: If you aren't that way you are more likely to get promoted(?) and then you can fire them

See I would like people to be themselves... I think there is a certain agegroup where they feel it's necessary to act a certain way or to mimic somebody and I think anyone who can't simply be themselves is a little sad :(

Ughhh... maybe there's always been that age group though!

Hairy Dane

Heineken Helen wrote:

DreamOfAngels wrote:

This is where I would challenge my own thoughts. Maybe I'm the one that is missing out? I think where I am is the correct place to be. If everyone else is over there :arrow: and I'm not... maybe they know something I don't know. Maybe I'm the one in the wrong place?

I say be happy and be where you want to be and don't worry about whether they are with you or not. Regardless of how we got on this earth - we are different from one another. This is just one way people are different. I kind of like it that way. It's challenging sometimes to have to deal with people not thinking or behaving exactly how I think... but it's a good challenge overall and one that keeps life interesting.

I just want people to be nice. I don't like being challenged by mean, cruel or disrespectful people.

You could also look at it like this: If you aren't that way you are more likely to get promoted(?) and then you can fire them

See I would like people to be themselves... I think there is a certain agegroup where they feel it's necessary to act a certain way or to mimic somebody and I think anyone who can't simply be themselves is a little sad :(

Ughhh... maybe there's always been that age group though!

That agegroup always existed, but we/they just had better rolemodels than the kids today. I didn't grow up learning that your voice will only be heard if I bleach my hair, ppout my lips and act silly on the telly. Unless I wanted to be laughed at, quite the opposite today, where the Paris Hiltons have more "media-power" than the people you really ought to hear.

FrankieG

Heineken Helen wrote:

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

I can't stand girls like this...

And for some reason, I am always surrounded by them..

DreamOfAngels

Heineken Helen wrote:

See I would like people to be themselves... I think there is a certain agegroup where they feel it's necessary to act a certain way or to mimic somebody and I think anyone who can't simply be themselves is a little sad :(

Ughhh... maybe there's always been that age group though!

When you say you want them to be themselves, who says they aren't? That is who they currently are. You just don't think it is how they should be. Who they are annoys you. You want them to grow out of whatever it is that is annoying and start behaving the way you think they should behave. True or no? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I'm just interpreting the statement through my own filter of life.

When my kids ask why people are mean on the playground and why the teacher can't make them stop being that way... I respond with the fact that there are plenty of adults that behave the same way and we can't do anything about them either. Just take care of you. So, it happens to middle schoolers, high schoolers, college kids, 30-somethings, mid-life crisis "I just turned 40" victims, and so on. IMO, really, the only time life is pure is from birth to age... 10 - not always, but the most likely time on earth.

mookeywrench

because it's stupid to be cool

mickeyrat

HH, who says it IS cool in the first place? I mean really. I think we can agree that just being ourselves with each other is the way to go, right?

BinauralJam

This is why the first peice of advice i give to young guys, when they ask where to meet girls is the Book Store, i tell them,"If they can read, your off to a pretty good start"

catefrances

im feeling extremely uncool atm.

DreamOfAngels

catefrances wrote:

im feeling extremely uncool atm.

That's because we aren't joining that other... I'm okay with that We can be uncool together

catefrances

DreamOfAngels wrote:

catefrances wrote:

im feeling extremely uncool atm.

That's because we aren't joining that other... I'm okay with that We can be uncool together

i prefer standing on the outside looking in.

Lauri

I don't think it's anything new. I've seen it since high school. Girls who could be perfectly smart just acting dumb to look submissive to boys. I remember once in college I said to my friend, "I wonder what would happen if I started wearing belly shirts (all the rage at the time), dropped out of college, and pretended I haven't a clue who Alice n' Chains are?" "Guys will be falling all over you" was her response. When was younger I hid my education, politics, and the details of my career from guys. Now I'm like f it.

runaway

Heineken Helen wrote:

chadwick wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

girls acting stupid?
who says they're acting?

But seriously... in a lot of cases they say silly things and flutter their eyelashes and laugh at themselves and I just think 'wow, you really didn't get hugged as a kid, eh?'

Maybe it's just where I work but there are more than a few examples of it there and now I'm starting to see it everywhere and in a lot of cases you KNOW they must know it's a stupid thing to say.

so like, I don't want to work where you work, ya know, cuz those chicks, who wants to be around "that" type of epidemic

dcfaithful

Heineken Helen wrote:

There is an epidemic at the moment of girls acting thick... completely thick! What the fuck's that about? :?

Or is it just an English thing? :oops:

If this is about female driving, I'm sorry Helen, but it ain't acting... :think:

chiquimonkey

Being cool is overrated, and being smart is sadly underrated.

Heineken Helen

theserialthrilla wrote:

LOTS OF MONEYfootballer wifes/girlfriends or the likes of jordan..stupid but very rich.cant be that darft if its the money that makes them happy or thier 15 mins of fame

True! Young girls these days aspire to be Cheryl Cole or Coleen Rooney! It really is horrible

Heineken Helen

Hairy Dane wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

See I would like people to be themselves... I think there is a certain agegroup where they feel it's necessary to act a certain way or to mimic somebody and I think anyone who can't simply be themselves is a little sad :(

Ughhh... maybe there's always been that age group though!

That agegroup always existed, but we/they just had better rolemodels than the kids today. I didn't grow up learning that your voice will only be heard if I bleach my hair, ppout my lips and act silly on the telly. Unless I wanted to be laughed at, quite the opposite today, where the Paris Hiltons have more "media-power" than the people you really ought to hear.

Ah good point... There seemed to be a lot of strong women around when I was of a certain age... and they certainly inspired me. I don't think the whole WAG thing had started yet.

Heineken Helen

DreamOfAngels wrote:

When you say you want them to be themselves, who says they aren't? That is who they currently are. You just don't think it is how they should be. Who they are annoys you. You want them to grow out of whatever it is that is annoying and start behaving the way you think they should behave. True or no? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I'm just interpreting the statement through my own filter of life.

When my kids ask why people are mean on the playground and why the teacher can't make them stop being that way... I respond with the fact that there are plenty of adults that behave the same way and we can't do anything about them either. Just take care of you. So, it happens to middle schoolers, high schoolers, college kids, 30-somethings, mid-life crisis "I just turned 40" victims, and so on. IMO, really, the only time life is pure is from birth to age... 10 - not always, but the most likely time on earth.

Sorry, I don't agree. You KNOW when somebody's putting on an act. Sure, there are some genuinely stupid people, plenty in fact... but there are those that you KNOW are doing it for a reaction. Some of them I know are quite clever and it makes me wonder why they feel they have to act that way. Sure I know people will always do a certain amount of acting... but I'm asking... why stupidity? How is it possible that it could be cool to actually be thick? Is it a defense mechanism where you MAKE people laugh at you, rather than have them laugh at you anyway?

Heineken Helen

mickeyrat wrote:

HH, who says it IS cool in the first place? I mean really. I think we can agree that just being ourselves with each other is the way to go, right?

Good point! Ok, it's NOT cool amongst us... but the teenagers... they wanna grow up and be beauticians and stuff :oops: Nothing wrong with beauticians at all but why aren't they aiming for bigger? We all wanted to be presidents and astronauts and stuff

DreamOfAngels

Heineken Helen wrote:

... why stupidity? How is it possible that it could be cool to actually be thick? Is it a defense mechanism where you MAKE people laugh at you, rather than have them laugh at you anyway?

In regards to putting on an act vs. that's who they are - I think that is who they are at that moment. They are acting. You want them to be natural and honest and they want to act. IMO, we are saying the same thing.

Acting ditzy causes people to spend more time talking about you, laughing at you, and trying to create new situations where you'll act stupid again for their entertainment. It's a great way to get attention. Have a low self-esteem? Grab yourself some good ole fashion attention. I never did this personally but I dated a guy in high school that was mean and cruel and he THRIVED on people like this. Don't ask me why I dated him as it's off topic

As therapists advise parents with children, they are willing to create situations that provide negative attention if they have to in order to get the attention they need/want. That's why you aren't supposed to respond to the temper tantrum - if they know it gets you they will use it every time.