Downsizing Defense By Cal Thomas

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edited August 2010 in A Moving Train
Im all for a strong military and I don't mind paying my share,but damn we have to draw the line somewhere..

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=3000


As Republicans take their case to the voters in November about the Obama administration’s massive overspending and record debt, they should seriously consider what could be a rare bipartisan objective: cutting defense spending.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates — a George W. Bush appointee and an Obama holdover — has announced plans to reduce what he calls the “cumbersome” American military hierarchy. Gates also wants to cut spending by more than one-quarter on support contractors and close the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., which, according to the Washington Post, “employs about 2,800 military and civilian personnel as well as 3,300 contractors, most of them in southeastern Virginia.” Gates’ proposal got the attention of Senator James Webb, Virginia Democrat and Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Republican. Closing a national security facility would cost jobs and Virginia, which recently announced a budget surplus and houses the Pentagon and other military venues, doesn’t want to regress.
It is one of Washington’s major embarrassments that no matter which party controls Congress, members use defense spending to create jobs and do favors for political contributors in their states and districts. But like the bipartisan Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) process, which operated through Republican and Democratic administrations and resulted in the closing of 350 outdated military bases, a similar approach to cutting unnecessary defense spending might also produce benefits to taxpayers.
The problem has been that the Left too often wants to cut defense for its own anti-war and political agenda and the Right thinks all defense spending is good and to cut it is unpatriotic. So how about starting with the most outrageous and unnecessary spending, which should make harder cuts a little easier?
Citizens Against Government Waste (www.cagw.org) offers some useful places to begin. In the 2010 defense budget, “$3,385,000,000 was added anonymously for four projects. According to the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007, signed into law on Sept. 14, 2007 by President George W. Bush, members of Congress are required to add their name to each earmark. However, they continue to violate this law by adding anonymous earmarks to fund projects — often big-ticket items — at the expense of taxpayers.” Why can’t Congress live under laws it passes to regulate itself?
Another anonymous earmark for $250,000,000 was added, “For advance procurement of components for the two DDG-51 destroyers planned in fiscal year 2011. According to a Sept. 29, 2009 Associated Press article, the DDG-51 destroyer is “to be built in Pascagoula, Miss., home to Republican Sen. Thad Cochran,” Ranking Member on the Appropriations Committee. “Sens. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), (former senator) Paul Kirk (D-Mass.) and Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.) added $8,100,000 for a hybrid drive system for the DDG-51 destroyer.”
Spending may be Washington’s last bipartisan activity.
Again anonymously, $2,500,000,000 was earmarked for “10 additional C-17 aircraft. In a floor statement posted on his website, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voiced his opposition to the C-17 funding: ‘what we would do in this bill is effectively fund the purchase of new aircraft that we neither need nor can afford with critical sustainment money. That would have a significant impact on our ability to provide the day-to-day operational funding that our servicemen and women and their families deserve.’ ”
It will take more than spending reductions to make the Pentagon — and the American economy — healthy again. Ultimately, the political leadership must develop a policy about the proper role of the United States in the world and what weapons are necessary to fight modern wars against terrorists.
President Obama has said (and so have his predecessors) that he doesn’t like the pork in defense bills, but he has to sign what Congress sends him. The least he could do is to shame those members who won’t attach their names to spending measures, or who support spending for weapons the Pentagon neither wants, nor needs.
Wasting money on the Department of Defense may strengthen the political careers of politicians, but it weakens our defenses.
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  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im all for a strong military and I don't mind paying my share,but damn we have to draw the line somewhere..

    http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=3000


    As Republicans take their case to the voters in November about the Obama administration’s massive overspending and record debt, they should seriously consider what could be a rare bipartisan objective: cutting defense spending.
    Defense Secretary Robert Gates — a George W. Bush appointee and an Obama holdover — has announced plans to reduce what he calls the “cumbersome” American military hierarchy. Gates also wants to cut spending by more than one-quarter on support contractors and close the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., which, according to the Washington Post, “employs about 2,800 military and civilian personnel as well as 3,300 contractors, most of them in southeastern Virginia.” Gates’ proposal got the attention of Senator James Webb, Virginia Democrat and Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, a Republican. Closing a national security facility would cost jobs and Virginia, which recently announced a budget surplus and houses the Pentagon and other military venues, doesn’t want to regress.
    It is one of Washington’s major embarrassments that no matter which party controls Congress, members use defense spending to create jobs and do favors for political contributors in their states and districts. But like the bipartisan Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) process, which operated through Republican and Democratic administrations and resulted in the closing of 350 outdated military bases, a similar approach to cutting unnecessary defense spending might also produce benefits to taxpayers.
    The problem has been that the Left too often wants to cut defense for its own anti-war and political agenda and the Right thinks all defense spending is good and to cut it is unpatriotic. So how about starting with the most outrageous and unnecessary spending, which should make harder cuts a little easier?
    Citizens Against Government Waste (http://www.cagw.org) offers some useful places to begin. In the 2010 defense budget, “$3,385,000,000 was added anonymously for four projects. According to the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007, signed into law on Sept. 14, 2007 by President George W. Bush, members of Congress are required to add their name to each earmark. However, they continue to violate this law by adding anonymous earmarks to fund projects — often big-ticket items — at the expense of taxpayers.” Why can’t Congress live under laws it passes to regulate itself?
    Another anonymous earmark for $250,000,000 was added, “For advance procurement of components for the two DDG-51 destroyers planned in fiscal year 2011. According to a Sept. 29, 2009 Associated Press article, the DDG-51 destroyer is “to be built in Pascagoula, Miss., home to Republican Sen. Thad Cochran,” Ranking Member on the Appropriations Committee. “Sens. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), (former senator) Paul Kirk (D-Mass.) and Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.) added $8,100,000 for a hybrid drive system for the DDG-51 destroyer.”
    Spending may be Washington’s last bipartisan activity.
    Again anonymously, $2,500,000,000 was earmarked for “10 additional C-17 aircraft. In a floor statement posted on his website, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voiced his opposition to the C-17 funding: ‘what we would do in this bill is effectively fund the purchase of new aircraft that we neither need nor can afford with critical sustainment money. That would have a significant impact on our ability to provide the day-to-day operational funding that our servicemen and women and their families deserve.’ ”
    It will take more than spending reductions to make the Pentagon — and the American economy — healthy again. Ultimately, the political leadership must develop a policy about the proper role of the United States in the world and what weapons are necessary to fight modern wars against terrorists.
    President Obama has said (and so have his predecessors) that he doesn’t like the pork in defense bills, but he has to sign what Congress sends him. The least he could do is to shame those members who won’t attach their names to spending measures, or who support spending for weapons the Pentagon neither wants, nor needs.
    Wasting money on the Department of Defense may strengthen the political careers of politicians, but it weakens our defenses.

    I just agreed with prfctlefts.

    I need a drink.

    ;)

    I still can't believe politicians can be so at ease with spending as much money on the military as they do, while the education system is stashed in a corner. In my adopted state, Louisiana, the flagship university - LSU - is being told to prepare for a 35% reduction in its budget for the 2011-12 fiscal year. Higher education in the state has been cut more than $270 million in the last 20 months, and the worst cuts are on their way, since the "blow" has been softened by the stimulus. That money goes away next summer, and in a state like Louisiana where high education spending is not constitutionally guaranteed and protected, the effect will be devastating. The LSU chancellor said the upcoming budget cuts will turn the entire state into a Third World country. But by all means, Washington, keep spending trillions of dollars on defense - we'll make sure there's no shortage of uneducated people willing to work on the aircraft the country doesn't need.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • If we were sitting at a bar I would buy you one ;)

    But yeah that sucks.. My state ( sc ) is making huge cuts also to public education and also and they are rasing bus fare another .25 one way fare 1.75 in the city I live in. .25 is a lot to some people what I mean is it adds up.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    we should call this spending and that department what it is, department of offense. when have we actually spent this money on defense in the last 60 years? it has been spent on offensive strategy and offensive missions in foreign lands since then. not on our homeland. korea, vietnam, grenada, panama, gulf war one, somalia, kosovo, afghanistan, iraq II, all have been fought on foreign shores when we have never even been threatened. i say cut it by half, fund education and healthcare.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    we should call this spending and that department what it is, department of offense. when have we actually spent this money on defense in the last 60 years? it has been spent on offensive strategy and offensive missions in foreign lands since then. not on our homeland. korea, vietnam, grenada, panama, gulf war one, somalia, kosovo, afghanistan, iraq II, all have been fought on foreign shores when we have never even been threatened. i say cut it by half, fund education and healthcare.
    fear guides them. they are so goddamn afraid of everything they think they need to control it. there is no trust.
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