so about that mosque at ground zero.....
Pepe Silvia
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not only is it a cultural center and not a mosque but it is several blocks from ground zero at an old london fog......
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-a ... ing-update
sad to see all the other racists against mosques or centers around the country
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-a ... ing-update
sad to see all the other racists against mosques or centers around the country
don't compete; coexist
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When I first heard about it, I immediately asked how far away is OK for the mosque. Nobody can give a good answer to that one.
It's 3 blocks if you go 3 blocks in any direction from Ground Zero I think you'd find plenty of things that do no uphold the sanctity of that spot - peep shows, bars, etc.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Sacred ground huh?
Yep - that is what I was saying in my post. People just want to stir up trouble over nothing.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
god dammit, why does everyone want to control what everyone else does? don't like it, too fucking bad, that is the "price" of freedom; people can do things that you may not like...quit going with this honor and sacred bullshit...It happened, it was/is horribly sad, I cannot even look at those towers falling without tearing up and thinking about all the terrified people inside and what they must have been going through, in fact, I won't watch it anymore for that reason...But it wasn't ISLAM that attacked the towers, it was Nut bags...
and good luck controlling what nut bags do...if you think you can, I have a rock I would like to sell you that keeps terrorism away.
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Additionally, the "titty bars are nearby" argument is entirely irrelevant, irrespective of one's moral stance on naked dancing. Silicon and poles did not bring down the towers, extremists representing an ideology did.
So again I'll ask. How close is acceptable for a mosque.
Plus - the terrorists were all men so perhaps we should close down the gentleman's club as well.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
If you'd do me the favor of actually reading my very short post, you'd see that it made no statement for or against the mosque. Rather, my post was merely countering the tired-out and meaningless arguments of some folks in this thread.
If you must know, I'm torn on the subject. Personally, I can't help but find it preposterous that we should accept this new building as some sort of "outreach" or symbol of "tolerance". However, philosophically, legally, Constitutionally, in the spirit of what I think America is, I have a very hard time justifying its prevention.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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I don't think it's overly irrelevant. To say that because the terrorists were muslim that we shouldn't allow a mosque 3 blocks away is just being ridiculous.
So there - I guess I agree with you. There isn't a very good argument for not allowing it.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
if you watched the daily show clip several states are protesting a mosque or cultural center being built, even in California and I think it was Tennessee.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
actually it's not. a lot of catholic priests seem to like to fuck little kids and yet no one is protesting a new catholic church being built. my point is you say islamic extremists took down the towers, fine, so you really think EVERYONE of that faith should be punished and treated like terrorists? don't you see how ridiculous that is!? how many innocent people did the inquisitions and witch trials kill? maybe we should boycott all religious centers instead of just one particular one?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Eh, i thought with the election of Obama, racism was over in America. no only reason i would have a problem with a mosque being built is if the government was paying for it. is that what is happenning in cali?
ha, it made me laugh!
it's not irrelevant at all... its a great point actually.
al qaeda doesn't represent the muslim faith in entirety... that's like saying sodomizing priests represent catholicism.
it's not a mosque and it's not at ground zero. it's a community centre.
The Cordoba Center will be about the same size as the YMCA's, 92ndY in Tribeca, and the JCC (Jewish Community Center). It is being modeled after the 92ndY (YMHA) which has Jewish events. The "Y" has never been called a Synagogue nor has The YMCA ever been called a Church. The building will have a pool, theater, culinary center and other features.
http://activerain.com/blogsview/1782451 ... round-zero
there's even a clip of a news channel giving the date/time for a koran burning event :shock:
according to an fbi report from somewhere in the 90's-2005 there were more cases of terrorism against the us from jewish extremists than muslims ones, yet i don't see people protesting jcc's or synagogue's
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
So should we punish everyone do to the actions of extremists? Isnt that what they want? They are loving the attention that is being given to this mosque. Im sure they are using it as a great recruiting tool. Keep adding to the fire.
how can ground be allegedly "hallowed" when there are vices like bars and titty bars on that ground???
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