How is being gay a choice?
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I didn't choose to be straight. I just am.
Unless people who think it's a choice are hiding in the closet themselves, I can't comprehend how anyone can choose which sex to be attracted to. It just happens.
I knew I liked women before I understood what sex was. By puberty it was like taking a hit from a drug every time a pretty girl walked into the room.
If you are trying to tell me it's a choice, you're essentially telling me that you are hiding in the closet yourself.
I didn't choose this. Gay people didn't choose that.
Unless people who think it's a choice are hiding in the closet themselves, I can't comprehend how anyone can choose which sex to be attracted to. It just happens.
I knew I liked women before I understood what sex was. By puberty it was like taking a hit from a drug every time a pretty girl walked into the room.
If you are trying to tell me it's a choice, you're essentially telling me that you are hiding in the closet yourself.
I didn't choose this. Gay people didn't choose that.
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1. From a conservative christian perspective I think it has to do with the fact that admitting that someone could be gay from birth would also admit that god planned it that way and therefore he is OK with homosexuality. If it was a choice then free will was involved and god was taken out of the equation. Further, if it was a choice to begin with conceivably they could choose to go straight.
2. From an historical standpoint- only recently has it become "socially acceptable" to be gay. Before that a person might be gay but for a vaiety of reasons would conceal that fact. Stating it as a choice infers that although they may be gay they have a choice to act on those feelings and make it known. Somehow the "choice" factor relates more to how they choose to express thier own sexuality. Either hide it or "flaunt" it.
Of course I don't believe anyone "chooses" thier sexuality any more than they choose any other predisposition. I can't imagine ever wrestling with the fact that I am straight. It's so deeply ingrained in my persona that it could never have been a "choice". That too is what amazes me about people who claim this. When did they choose which sex they were attracted to? And if you are able to admit that someone could have the option of choosing in spite of your own lack of choice would it not further reinforce the fact they are somehow bilogically different and worthy of acceptance for such, regardless of one's personal values or choices?
Given that the ancient Greeks had no problem with homosexuality, I'd say it's hardly "recently... socially acceptable." Plato was getting it on with young boys long before society did a 180 and decided it wasn't right. Maybe we're entering another age of enlightenment where people will wake up and realize who you choose to share your bed with doesn't determine whether or not you're a good person (and I say this as a happily married heterosexual man).
Why is it a cross to be born though? Homosexuals don't have a say in their sexual preference any more than Caucasians get a say in their skin color or left-handed people get a say in which hand they naturally prefer. Saying it's a cross to bear makes it sound like something people should be ashamed of - which I don't think it is.
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Its a topic that does not even really need discussion as the answer is obvious (unless your an inbred Hick that is)
Why people have to have unnatural sex is the issue, I love you all but I'm not bending over!
It isn't only homosexual people having "unnatural sex" though. If you're against promiscuity, then there are plenty of straight people who have the same "cross to bear." Case and point, everyone you see on E! News
Though if anyone does think a pill will save them from AIDS... they're playing with fire.
There are 7 billion people in this world. In our 3 million or so years existence as humans we've gone from 1 billion to 7 billion people in the last 100 years alone.., Really the world is only designed to handle our numbers in the hundreds of thousands, but we invented agriculture.
What the world needs is more gay people and diseases. Diseases are natures way of controlling population. We can fight them, but the more we fight them, the more dangerous they will get until we go extinct. It's a delicate balance, this nature is.
Pretend we get rid of all the diseases. End starvation. End war. Live longer.. You think people are just going to collectively decide to stop having children because we've suddenly realized we are shoulder to shoulder?
I think we all know that is a choice nobody could make. gross....
It isn't only homosexual people having "unnatural sex" though. If you're against promiscuity, then there are plenty of straight people who have the same "cross to bear." Case and point, everyone you see on E! News
Though if anyone does think a pill will save them from AIDS... they're playing with fire.[/quote]
My comments were not just directed at gay people, "the direction the world has headed sexually", sex like alcohol and drugs is a door through which evil can enter, if you let it.
I think there may be natural predisposition, as some evidence suggests, but I think upbringing has a huge influence on sexuality, as it does every other aspect of personality. Of course all these outside influences affect us on a subconscious level, and thus I don't think anyone really makes a choice as such - but that's not to say anyone is born one particular way or the other.
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What does gay mean to you? so many people don't really think about that questions
I don't look at ALL WOMEN and think what it would be like to have sex with them?? As with gay men, I don't wonder about their sex life because I have never found men sexually arousing!
There is another weird idea from straight men and that is that they are attractive to all gay men in the first place??
Wow that is just ignorant! What about over the top straight feminists and over the top macho boxers that feel that punching someone till they are knocked unconscience is a sport????????
That is just a stupid stereotype. I know plety of "normal" gay people who unless you asked them you would never know - and its none of my business to ask someone who they are attracted to sexually anyway!
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Being gay is just something you are, just like being straight.
Who cares anyway, we are all human beings. Let's just all respect and be nice to one another - regardless of skin color, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
Let people love who they want to love
sex is not evil. nor is it a door through which said evil can enter. sex is sex. evil enters only through the minds of mankind.
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+1 but some evil sex is not bad at all
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All this nasty stuff people get up to has the hand of evil behind it, that is probably why people do it, because it is taboo and that is where the thrill lies.
Of course sex can be compared to alcohol and drug abuse, I bet you more people have died and have had their lives turned upside down because of their craving for sex than because of drugs and alcohol. Look at the increase in sexual diseases, people have had warning after warning but they still continue down the same road.
Be good people the short time we spend on this planet will seem like a blink of the eye when the fires of hell are warming your ass for eternity.
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Exactly, and that is the point I was trying to make. People all have different things that turn them on and they choose to act on them or not.
There's no doubt that at SOME homosexual sex is a choice....just like the same is likely true for SOME heterosexual sex.
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you are the guy in the left of your avatar i take it?
anyway, stuffing a male chicken up your anus cannot be arousing