Casinos or the lottery

mikepegg44

Just an idea about the deficit, couldn't the federal government open casinos or create a lottery like the powerball?...what stops them from doing so? States have the lottery, why doesn't the Federal Gov't get on board? Man the could raise a lot of money fast. Between that and legalized marijuana, we could actually pay down the debt.
Anyone have any insight as to why the feds don't do this?

cincybearcat

mikepegg44 wrote:

Just an idea about the deficit, couldn't the federal government open casinos or create a lottery like the powerball?...what stops them from doing so? States have the lottery, why doesn't the Federal Gov't get on board? Man the could raise a lot of money fast. Between that and legalized marijuana, we could actually pay down the debt.
Anyone have any insight as to why the feds don't do this?

Cause they'd do it wrong.

And while Casinos make $...it's not as easy as just taxing people more. You don't have to provide showgirls or free drinks to tax people more....well you do but just for Congress and some lobbyists, not everyone.

Jason P

It's a good way to tax the poor and middle class.

sparky_fry

casinos don't make money, they redistribute it to the rich while the poor get poorer.

FiveB247x

Or they could just spend our money more responsibly and tax corporations they way they used too which would remove our deficit over time...

mikepegg44 wrote:

Just an idea about the deficit, couldn't the federal government open casinos or create a lottery like the powerball?...what stops them from doing so? States have the lottery, why doesn't the Federal Gov't get on board? Man the could raise a lot of money fast. Between that and legalized marijuana, we could actually pay down the debt.
Anyone have any insight as to why the feds don't do this?

cincybearcat

sparky_fry wrote:

casinos don't make money, they redistribute it to the rich while the poor get poorer.

Yep, cause the poor are physically forced to enter and gamble their $ away. Some of you people make me f'in crazy.

mikepegg44

Jason P wrote:

It's a good way to tax the poor and middle class.

it isn't really a tax, it is voluntary, you don't have to gamble and you don't have to buy lottery tickets. If you choose to do it it is up to you. Also, rich people gamble too,
and yes, it is a good way to "tax" people, by giving them a choice to give the feds the money or not. I know I wouldn't go to a federally run casino, but I would probably buy some powerball type tickets. Someone has got to win. Plus we could get a whole bunch of new jobs for people. Seems like a good solution for the tax issues that are always around. Not only would they get the profits, but they would also get to tax the winnings!

Man, I can just see the possibilities, I should run on this platform. I would call it the degenerate party and run on legalizing prostitution, drugs, and a federal casino/lottery to pay for all of my "give drugs to kids" programs through gambling.

FiveB247x

Isn't this very close to Vegas?

mikepegg44 wrote:

Man, I can just see the possibilities, I should run on this platform. I would call it the degenerate party and run on legalizing prostitution, drugs, and a federal casino/lottery to pay for all of my "give drugs to kids" programs through gambling.

sparky_fry

cincybearcat wrote:

sparky_fry wrote:

casinos don't make money, they redistribute it to the rich while the poor get poorer.

Yep, cause the poor are physically forced to enter and gamble their $ away. Some of you people make me f'in crazy.

its called an addiction which the casino owners prey on. Looks like someone needs to relax. We all have our own opinions

cincybearcat

sparky_fry wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

sparky_fry wrote:

casinos don't make money, they redistribute it to the rich while the poor get poorer.

Yep, cause the poor are physically forced to enter and gamble their $ away. Some of you people make me f'in crazy.

its called an addiction which the casino owners prey on. Looks like someone needs to relax. We all have our own opinions

Always someone else's fault.

mikepegg44

FiveB247x wrote:

Isn't this very close to Vegas?

mikepegg44 wrote:

Man, I can just see the possibilities, I should run on this platform. I would call it the degenerate party and run on legalizing prostitution, drugs, and a federal casino/lottery to pay for all of my "give drugs to kids" programs through gambling.

our convention will be at the bunny ranch!!!

sparky_fry

its called an addiction which the casino owners prey on. Looks like someone needs to relax. We all have our own opinions[/quote]

Always someone else's fault.[/quote]

I'll agree that the gamblers need to recognize that they are being taken advantage of, just like smokers need to realize cigarettes are killing them. But thats unfortunately the nature of an addiction. Either way i'm still against the methodology of a casino. Large businesses need to be taxed more before we start going after the middle and lower class

Indifference

Jason P wrote:

It's a good way to tax the poor and middle class.

No it is a tax on people who are bad at math whether poor, middle class or rich.

mikepegg44

sparky_fry wrote:

its called an addiction which the casino owners prey on. Looks like someone needs to relax. We all have our own opinions

Always someone else's fault.[/quote]

I'll agree that the gamblers need to recognize that they are being taken advantage of, just like smokers need to realize cigarettes are killing them. But thats unfortunately the nature of an addiction. Either way i'm still against the methodology of a casino. Large businesses need to be taxed more before we start going after the middle and lower class[/quote]

If large businesses are taxed more, that cost will go somewhere...it is basically just taxing the people who use those products, which I actually in favor of over income taxes (i.e a sales tax). Whether it is walmart, target, or anderson windows, those costs will be passed on to the consumer. I don't buy the whole jobs argument, that raising taxes on businesses will cost jobs, if anything it will make the companies invest more in themselves rather than taking profits...but the cost of those taxes will be passed on.
and going after the middle and lower class? Some people actually enjoy gambling. I go into a good old fashioned craps game expecting to lose a little money, it is just fun to play. But the idea that this some how is going after the poor or middle class is ridiculous... A gambling addiction is like any other addiction, while it sucks a person has that problem, if they aren't getting help it isn't anyone elses fault. I don't hear anyone calling for food to be made cheaper so as not to take advantage of the people who are food addicts...

Drowned Out

Impossible. How would the feds balance pandering to the religious right, while openly running a gambling racket?

mikepegg44 wrote:

Man, I can just see the possibilities, I should run on this platform. I would call it the degenerate party and run on legalizing prostitution, drugs, and a federal casino/lottery to pay for all of my "give drugs to kids" programs through gambling.

Well, aside from the giving drugs to kids part...I'd say one man's degenerate behaviour is another's ideal Friday night I'd vote for ya.

mikepegg44

Drowned Out wrote:

Impossible. How would the feds balance pandering to the religious right, while openly running a gambling racket?

mikepegg44 wrote:

Man, I can just see the possibilities, I should run on this platform. I would call it the degenerate party and run on legalizing prostitution, drugs, and a federal casino/lottery to pay for all of my "give drugs to kids" programs through gambling.

Well, aside from the giving drugs to kids part...I'd say one man's degenerate behaviour is another's ideal Friday night I'd vote for ya.

thanks ... between you and my mom I would likely have one vote!!

the religious right are too busy protesting two people who love each other getting married, we could sneak it in and say something like..."we may not be great, but at least we aren't allowing gay marriage..." that should fool them into voting for me...then I can turn around and break that campaign promise.

Drowned Out

mikepegg44 wrote:

thanks ... between you and my mom I would likely have one vote!!

the religious right are too busy protesting two people who love each other getting married, we could sneak it in and say something like..."we may not be great, but at least we aren't allowing gay marriage..." that should fool them into voting for me...then I can turn around and break that campaign promise.

That would probably work
Between me and your mom, huh? MAAAAAN....I love yo mama jokes, I'm REALLY biting my tongue here

know1

mikepegg44 wrote:

Just an idea about the deficit, couldn't the federal government open casinos or create a lottery like the powerball?...what stops them from doing so? States have the lottery, why doesn't the Federal Gov't get on board? Man the could raise a lot of money fast. Between that and legalized marijuana, we could actually pay down the debt.
Anyone have any insight as to why the feds don't do this?

Here's a better idea. LOWER THE COST OF GOVERNMENT.

mikepegg44

know1 wrote:

Here's a better idea. LOWER THE COST OF GOVERNMENT.

I completely agree, but it will never happen. At least this way they can raise their "revenue" without a directly raising taxes on anyone.

know1

mikepegg44 wrote:

know1 wrote:

Here's a better idea. LOWER THE COST OF GOVERNMENT.

I completely agree, but it will never happen. At least this way they can raise their "revenue" without a directly raising taxes on anyone.

I guess when we all just shrug our shoulders and give up, it probably will never happen.

mikepegg44

know1 wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

know1 wrote:

Here's a better idea. LOWER THE COST OF GOVERNMENT.

I completely agree, but it will never happen. At least this way they can raise their "revenue" without a directly raising taxes on anyone.

I guess when we all just shrug our shoulders and give up, it probably will never happen.

I sense your sarcasm.
I vote for people who want smaller government, what more can I do, I have no interest in running for office, and I do not want to donate a huge amount of my time and money to get people elected who turn out to be frauds anyway. Would anyone have a problem with universal healthcare if the bills were paid by people voluntarily going to a casino? the consistent growth of the federal government is not something I care to support, but at this point our country is moving to a more centralized government with less and less left up to states. We really are no longer the united states of america, we are simply the united states. We are moving to a central government, not a collection of states that have rights...I hate it, but I don't know what else to do but participate in the process to the best of my ability