Gay marriage arguments

know1

Kel Varnsen wrote:

know1 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

yes i know but where we differ(seemingly) is the opinion that what is not equal is the right to marry the one person we love... if we happen to be gay. that basic right is kept from us.

Love is very, very hard to define. As I asked, what if I "love" 2 people. Should I have the right to marry both? What if it's 12 people?

I wouldn't really care if someone wanted to marry 12 people. I mean such a small segment of the population would want to do that it would have no effect on me. And as long as all 13 people in that relationship knew about each other and things like property/inheritance rights and power of attorney were settled in advance why should I care?

I wouldn't care either. But it would be a mess if the government tried to oversee it. That's why I am a strong advocate of the government not sanctioning or recognizing marriage whatsoever. Let us all make whatever legal arrangements we want to between whomever we want to make them.

nuffingman

mrvedderson wrote:

Marriage is a strang thing anyway. I say no marriage for anyone.

I like your style. Then we can sink all those ridiculous businesses that try and sell you a cake for £500.

Kel Varnsen

know1 wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

know1 wrote:

Love is very, very hard to define. As I asked, what if I "love" 2 people. Should I have the right to marry both? What if it's 12 people?

I wouldn't really care if someone wanted to marry 12 people. I mean such a small segment of the population would want to do that it would have no effect on me. And as long as all 13 people in that relationship knew about each other and things like property/inheritance rights and power of attorney were settled in advance why should I care?

I wouldn't care either. But it would be a mess if the government tried to oversee it. That's why I am a strong advocate of the government not sanctioning or recognizing marriage whatsoever. Let us all make whatever legal arrangements we want to between whomever we want to make them.

Why would it be hard for the government to oversee it? Just make it a rule that if you are married to one person and you want to marry a second person, everyone has to consent and a number of legal documents have to be set up (to determine who has property rights, inheritance rights, next of kin, that sort of thing) before hand.And it is the responsibility of the person getting married to sort all of those things out with a lawyer and that they have to provide the required documentation before a marriage licence is issued.

know1

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Why would it be hard for the government to oversee it? Just make it a rule that if you are married to one person and you want to marry a second person, everyone has to consent and a number of legal documents have to be set up (to determine who has property rights, inheritance rights, next of kin, that sort of thing) before hand.And it is the responsibility of the person getting married to sort all of those things out with a lawyer and that they have to provide the required documentation before a marriage licence is issued.

I'm sure the government would try, but the main thing is I don't see the POINT of the government being involved in marriage anyway.

Kel Varnsen

know1 wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Why would it be hard for the government to oversee it? Just make it a rule that if you are married to one person and you want to marry a second person, everyone has to consent and a number of legal documents have to be set up (to determine who has property rights, inheritance rights, next of kin, that sort of thing) before hand.And it is the responsibility of the person getting married to sort all of those things out with a lawyer and that they have to provide the required documentation before a marriage licence is issued.

I'm sure the government would try, but the main thing is I don't see the POINT of the government being involved in marriage anyway.

I definitely see a convenience factor. I mean when I got married my licence cost me $150 and for that my wife and I got all kinds of additional property, inheritance, medical decision and other rights. If we had to go to a lawyer to set up things like property co-ownerships, power of attorney and wills and other inheritance documents it would cost way more than 150 bucks.

Jason P

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I think the gay community has it made with marriage being illegal. The majority of us stay in relationships to avoid legal hardships or get grilled by our grandmothers on why we are still single. Why are you trying to ruin a good thing?

Godfather.

why ? why this topic again ?

Godfather.

eMMI

Godfather. wrote:

why ? why this topic again ?

Godfather.

Because:

catefrances wrote:

yes love is very difficult to define and it can not be legislated. EVERYONE should have the right, if they so choose, to marry the person theyve fallen in love with and want to spend the rest of their life with. unfortunately gays have to have that right legislated cause its not a basic right for them. and the fact that it is NOT a basic right for them is not just wrong, its discriminatory.