and to answer the question "why do I vote"...because I can..
I find it amusing that some dismiss the power of voting...just because your candidate didn't win doesn't mean voting is waste of time...it's like taking your ball and going home when you're losing...
I do not agree that someone should vote just because they can. If I do not feel there is a candidate running who would represent me properly, than not voting for either is a way of making an informed choice.
so people should have to take some sort of test or something prior to voting...?
perhaps an oath stating "I hereby solemnly swear that I'm informed to Know1's standards"...
so people should have to take some sort of test or something prior to voting...?
perhaps an oath stating "I hereby solemnly swear that I'm informed to Know1's standards"...
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
try telling an african american before they got the vote that you are not voting. try telling a woman in the 1920s you are not going to vote and why...
you are just choosing to not do something that minority groups and women have been fighting for the right to do in this country for centuries.
to me not exorcising your right to vote is the same thing as a doctor witnessing a car accident and just driving past it without offering assistance. the doctor has a duty to act, and you have a duty to vote.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
try telling an african american before they got the vote that you are not voting. try telling a woman in the 1920s you are not going to vote and why...
you are just choosing to not do something that minority groups and women have been fighting for the right to do in this country for centuries.
to me not exorcising your right to vote is the same thing as a doctor witnessing a car accident and just driving past it without offering assistance. the doctor has a duty to act, and you have a duty to vote.
Not even close...
The doctor is helping YOU (personally). Weather you vote or not politicians put corporate intrests first. THe world does not work they way it did in the 20's.
try telling an african american before they got the vote that you are not voting. try telling a woman in the 1920s you are not going to vote and why...
you are just choosing to not do something that minority groups and women have been fighting for the right to do in this country for centuries.
to me not exorcising your right to vote is the same thing as a doctor witnessing a car accident and just driving past it without offering assistance. the doctor has a duty to act, and you have a duty to vote.
Not even close...
The doctor is helping YOU (personally). Weather you vote or not politicians put corporate intrests first. THe world does not work they way it did in the 20's.
aaaa...the 1920's...those were days...I guess those robber barons had no political clout back then...
try telling an african american before they got the vote that you are not voting. try telling a woman in the 1920s you are not going to vote and why...
you are just choosing to not do something that minority groups and women have been fighting for the right to do in this country for centuries.
to me not exorcising your right to vote is the same thing as a doctor witnessing a car accident and just driving past it without offering assistance. the doctor has a duty to act, and you have a duty to vote.
Not even close...
The doctor is helping YOU (personally). Weather you vote or not politicians put corporate intrests first. THe world does not work they way it did in the 20's.
so don't vote then. fine by me... you can either be engaged in the process or not be engaged in it. i think it sets a poor example for one's kids to be so apathetic that they don't care enough to vote. some people around here are always so quick to point out that "people died to guarantee or preserve" whatever right but never when it comes to voting. just don't act like you are making some huge statement by staying home on election day because its been done a million times before....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Yes it is great to be engaged, but to simply say voting constitutes that alone is not realistic. Yes it is good to install the sense of duty and potential to change things the right way by voting, but on the other hand it's a bit hypocritical and misleading to not recognize the legitimacy and practical side of such things. Voting is a great moral action, not so much in terms of looking for re-action through the process. And in terms of history and what people gave up and worked for, all that stuff is exactly that.. in the past, and we've long since given up any serious obligation to continue such lessons or practice in recent times. Mentioning it now is almost a dis-serve in my opinion.
so don't vote then. you can either be engaged in the process or not be engaged in it. i think it sets a poor example for one's kids to be so apathetic that they don't care enough to vote. some people around here are always so quick to point out that "people died to guarantee or preserve whatever right" but never when it comes to voting. just don't act like you are making some huge statement by staying home on election day because its been done a million times before....
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
so don't vote then. fine by me... you can either be engaged in the process or not be engaged in it. i think it sets a poor example for one's kids to be so apathetic that they don't care enough to vote. some people around here are always so quick to point out that "people died to guarantee or preserve" whatever right but never when it comes to voting. just don't act like you are making some huge statement by staying home on election day because its been done a million times before....
I never said i was making a statement.
I simply said i don't vote because you’re not going to get change from the political party that clearly, tragically serves corporate interests over anything else. That’s the way the system works.
Are you going to disagree with that statement?
I would say my reasoning for not voting is better than your reason for voting.
The only way to change the systems is to acknowledge how it works and make a change. Now i am not saying not voting is the change that needs to be made, but voting just because is hardly making a statement.
And i think it set a poor example for ones kids to acknowledge the way the system works and continually voting R and D and pretending that it makes any difference.
so don't vote then. fine by me... you can either be engaged in the process or not be engaged in it. i think it sets a poor example for one's kids to be so apathetic that they don't care enough to vote. some people around here are always so quick to point out that "people died to guarantee or preserve" whatever right but never when it comes to voting. just don't act like you are making some huge statement by staying home on election day because its been done a million times before....
I never said i was making a statement.
I simply said i don't vote because you’re not going to get change from the political party that clearly, tragically serves corporate interests over anything else. That’s the way the system works.
Are you going to disagree with that statement?
I would say my reasoning for not voting is better than your reason for voting.
The only way to change the systems is to acknowledge how it works and make a change. Now i am not saying not voting is the change that needs to be made, but voting just because is hardly making a statement.
And i think it set a poor example for ones kids to acknowledge the way the system works and continually voting R and D and pretending that it makes any difference.
i'm glad im not so cynical. i think there is a huge difference between the D and the R. you can write in a candidate and vote against the people on the ballot. ever think of that?
how would you change the system?? what are your ideas? how would you expect there to be any change in america without voting?
look what happened in 2006, the dems won both houses and in 2008 obama won in a landslide. look what is going to happen in november, either the gop will win one or both houses, or their party-of-no platform will hurt their cause even more.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I guess it's a first... for once I agree with you. You don't vote, you lose your voice. No complaining about what the government is doing/not doing. No complaining about the healthcare system, benefits, etc. NO VOICE.
From the Seneca Falls Convention (and probably before) to August 26, 1920 women fought for the right to vote. It's an awesome feeling to vote, and by voting I honor those fighters who worked to get me the right!
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
wow...folks are actually arguing against voting... :crazy:
amazing...
lol, yeah...
no term limits, lets make a socialist communist facist government while we are at it.... or even better, a dictatorship or even a monarchy :roll:
i can understand and even respect voting against someone or staying home because you don't like your choices, but i can't believe that people are arguing against voting on laws and propositions as well...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
so don't vote then. fine by me... you can either be engaged in the process or not be engaged in it. i think it sets a poor example for one's kids to be so apathetic that they don't care enough to vote. some people around here are always so quick to point out that "people died to guarantee or preserve" whatever right but never when it comes to voting. just don't act like you are making some huge statement by staying home on election day because its been done a million times before....
I never said i was making a statement.
I simply said i don't vote because you’re not going to get change from the political party that clearly, tragically serves corporate interests over anything else. That’s the way the system works.
Are you going to disagree with that statement?
I would say my reasoning for not voting is better than your reason for voting.
The only way to change the systems is to acknowledge how it works and make a change. Now i am not saying not voting is the change that needs to be made, but voting just because is hardly making a statement.
And i think it set a poor example for ones kids to acknowledge the way the system works and continually voting R and D and pretending that it makes any difference.
oh
my
god
heidi, i agree with you
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
I vote because it gives me an excuse to leave work early. They also give out cool stickers that let everyone know you voted and that you care. :thumbup:
It also allows me to have influence over what policymakers are in charge. This is most important for local and state elections where my vote actually counts a lot more since some positions only get around 5,000 total votes.
I guess it's a first... for once I agree with you. You don't vote, you lose your voice. No complaining about what the government is doing/not doing. No complaining about the healthcare system, benefits, etc. NO VOICE.
and of course
i do not agree with unsung
i can
and
i will
complain about whatever i want to
while not voting for this corrupt system
it's my right
i vote by not voting
i believe half of this nation does this
why do you think we don't vote?
it's meaningless
it's a bone they threw us
that has no meat
and maybe someday when the number of non-voters,
sickened by this political system reaches 70%, 80%, 90%
our right-to-not-vote will change this pathetic game
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
I guess it's a first... for once I agree with you. You don't vote, you lose your voice. No complaining about what the government is doing/not doing. No complaining about the healthcare system, benefits, etc. NO VOICE.
and of course
i do not agree with unsung
i can
and
i will
complain about whatever i want to
while not voting for this corrupt system
it's my right
i vote by not voting
i believe half of this nation does this
why do you think we don't vote?
it's meaningless
it's a bone they threw us
that has no meat
and maybe someday when the number of non-voters,
sickened by this political system reaches 70%, 80%, 90%
our right-to-not-vote will change this pathetic game
ed, on a side note, I bought your avatar for $37.50 today. You can have it back for $50. :wave:
you have a right not to vote.
and you have a right to vote.
i choose to use my right to vote to try to influence who does and does not get the positions where they represent me. i also choose to vote for and against issues. to me issues are just as important or more important than the people representing me.
also, which of you would still not vote if a local tax increase for schools or roads or sewers were on the ballot? what about a tax increase to raise the pay of police officers and emts and fire fighters? or a bond issue or a law banning smoking in public places or gay marriage?? based on what is posted here i would think that many of you would care about some of these issues for one reason or another...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
you have a right not to vote.
and you have a right to vote.
i choose to use my right to vote to try to influence who does and does not get the positions where they represent me. i also choose to vote for and against issues. to me issues are just as important or more important than the people representing me.
also, which of you would still not vote if a local tax increase for schools or roads or sewers were on the ballot? what about a tax increase to raise the pay of police officers and emts and fire fighters? or a bond issue or a law banning smoking in public places or gay marriage?? based on what is posted here i would think that many of you would care about some of these issues for one reason or another...
I don't have any problem voting for or against issues. It's voting for PEOPLE that I usually abstain from.
And for the record, I'd vote against any tax increases. No questions asked.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone really has stated people shouldn't vote, but more so that it proves to be more of a meaningless act in the scope of our corrupt and privately run system. Generically speaking, voting doesn't change things, people's constant activism and involvement has (or atleast enough to make leaders cater to the will).
wow...folks are actually arguing against voting... :crazy:
amazing...
Sometimes you have to think outside the box and not cling to outdated methodologies in a close minded fashion...
so how would you fix the problem if you took away voting for people to represent you?
how would you overhaul the system?
what is the replacement for outdated methodologies?
if you took away voting for people you would turn the entire structure of the government, this republic, on it's ear.
please enlighten me...
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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i can
and
i will
complain about whatever i want to
while not voting for this corrupt system
it's my right
i vote by not voting
i believe half of this nation does this
why do you think we don't vote?
it's meaningless
it's a bone they threw us
that has no meat
and maybe someday when the number of non-voters,
sickened by this political system reaches 70%, 80%, 90%
our right-to-not-vote will change this pathetic game
But, but, but, but my feelings are so hurt!!
You complain about this two party system yet you don't seem to want to do much to change it. So instead of jumping on a music message board why don't you stump for a worthwhile 3rd party? Is that a wasted vote? I think not. I voted 3rd party for President in 2008 because I'd never be able to look at myself in the mirror if I had voted for Obama or McCain.
On a side note please consider changing your odd style of typing, it is a bit painful to read. No offense but punctuation is also worthwhile.
I vote because to not to is to disrespect those who fought and died to give us that right. Also women and blacks who don't vote disrespect those who fought and went through real oppression to get you that right. Might sound like over-dramatizing it but it is true and it is real. Maybe my vote makes very little difference, but taking 10 to 20 minutes 2 times a year to honor those who REALLY (as opposed to the so-called fighting for our freedom today) fought for our freedom is not too much to ask for.
I vote because to not to is to disrespect those who fought and died to give us that right. Also women and blacks who don't vote disrespect those who fought and went through real oppression to get you that right. Might sound like over-dramatizing it but it is true and it is real. Maybe my vote makes very little difference, but taking 10 to 20 minutes 2 times a year to honor those who REALLY (as opposed to the so-called fighting for our freedom today) fought for our freedom is not too much to ask for.
aah the guilt trip approach.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I never said i was making a statement.
I simply said i don't vote because you’re not going to get change from the political party that clearly, tragically serves corporate interests over anything else. That’s the way the system works.
Are you going to disagree with that statement?
I would say my reasoning for not voting is better than your reason for voting.
The only way to change the systems is to acknowledge how it works and make a change. Now i am not saying not voting is the change that needs to be made, but voting just because is hardly making a statement.
And i think it set a poor example for ones kids to acknowledge the way the system works and continually voting R and D and pretending that it makes any difference.
i'm glad im not so cynical. i think there is a huge difference between the D and the R. you can write in a candidate and vote against the people on the ballot. ever think of that?
how would you change the system?? what are your ideas? how would you expect there to be any change in america without voting?
I would like to hear some solutions, also, from the OP and everyone else here who agree that voting solves nothing...
I can't speak for others as I haven't exactly stated what some others have, but I'll offer my opinion.
In sum (the short version), as long as people continue to vote for only the 2 major parties and do not have continual participation and force representatives to hear and follow their voice, voting is meaningless. Without these two actions, it doesn't matter what party or which official is elected to government. The constant and impenetrable private interests and lobbying machine will never change otherwise, and as time goes on, the noose grows tighter as does the reach and breathe of their capabilities. Also, it'd be silly not to mention the media and public relations role in our society as they distract, polarize and dumb down everyone (as a whole) which merely feeds the system further and build disinterest and empathy. Also, and more of a side-note but still relevant is the fact that our voting system is skewed. Each vote is not equal and as we clearly see now, the system can be corrupted (which is a totally separate discussion in itself). But all in all, this is why voting is nothing more than a morally good, yet meaningless act nowadays. How do you change it? Participation and stop backing the groups who further the system as it is... ie, the political parties, the private industries, etc. Lastly, simply voting (no matter who you vote for) does not constitute fixing the system, society or anything similar. We have a society which only roughly 1/2 of the eligible voting population votes in major elections and even less in other elections. The constant participation and engagement is more necessary than simply pressing a button every so often on election day. When those things change, we'll see results. Perhaps this isn't the answer or result you were looking for, but it's the only practical and realistic way for things like voting to actually make a lick of difference in our nation. And with that said, I don't expect it anytime if at all.
I would like to hear some solutions, also, from the OP and everyone else here who agree that voting solves nothing...
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I vote even though I think our politicians are a waste of space. It makes me feel I have a right to vent my anger at them because I'm part of the process.
Not that my vote makes even a slight difference as the party that wins around here does so by a landslide every election.
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so people should have to take some sort of test or something prior to voting...?
perhaps an oath stating "I hereby solemnly swear that I'm informed to Know1's standards"...
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
you are just choosing to not do something that minority groups and women have been fighting for the right to do in this country for centuries.
to me not exorcising your right to vote is the same thing as a doctor witnessing a car accident and just driving past it without offering assistance. the doctor has a duty to act, and you have a duty to vote.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The doctor is helping YOU (personally). Weather you vote or not politicians put corporate intrests first. THe world does not work they way it did in the 20's.
aaaa...the 1920's...those were days...I guess those robber barons had no political clout back then...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I simply said i don't vote because you’re not going to get change from the political party that clearly, tragically serves corporate interests over anything else. That’s the way the system works.
Are you going to disagree with that statement?
I would say my reasoning for not voting is better than your reason for voting.
The only way to change the systems is to acknowledge how it works and make a change. Now i am not saying not voting is the change that needs to be made, but voting just because is hardly making a statement.
And i think it set a poor example for ones kids to acknowledge the way the system works and continually voting R and D and pretending that it makes any difference.
amazing...
how would you change the system?? what are your ideas? how would you expect there to be any change in america without voting?
look what happened in 2006, the dems won both houses and in 2008 obama won in a landslide. look what is going to happen in november, either the gop will win one or both houses, or their party-of-no platform will hurt their cause even more.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I guess it's a first... for once I agree with you. You don't vote, you lose your voice. No complaining about what the government is doing/not doing. No complaining about the healthcare system, benefits, etc. NO VOICE.
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
no term limits, lets make a socialist communist facist government while we are at it.... or even better, a dictatorship or even a monarchy :roll:
i can understand and even respect voting against someone or staying home because you don't like your choices, but i can't believe that people are arguing against voting on laws and propositions as well...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
oh
my
god
heidi, i agree with you
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
It also allows me to have influence over what policymakers are in charge. This is most important for local and state elections where my vote actually counts a lot more since some positions only get around 5,000 total votes.
and of course
i do not agree with unsung
i can
and
i will
complain about whatever i want to
while not voting for this corrupt system
it's my right
i vote by not voting
i believe half of this nation does this
why do you think we don't vote?
it's meaningless
it's a bone they threw us
that has no meat
and maybe someday when the number of non-voters,
sickened by this political system reaches 70%, 80%, 90%
our right-to-not-vote will change this pathetic game
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
and you have a right to vote.
i choose to use my right to vote to try to influence who does and does not get the positions where they represent me. i also choose to vote for and against issues. to me issues are just as important or more important than the people representing me.
also, which of you would still not vote if a local tax increase for schools or roads or sewers were on the ballot? what about a tax increase to raise the pay of police officers and emts and fire fighters? or a bond issue or a law banning smoking in public places or gay marriage?? based on what is posted here i would think that many of you would care about some of these issues for one reason or another...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I don't have any problem voting for or against issues. It's voting for PEOPLE that I usually abstain from.
And for the record, I'd vote against any tax increases. No questions asked.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Sometimes you have to think outside the box and not cling to outdated methodologies in a close minded fashion...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
how would you overhaul the system?
what is the replacement for outdated methodologies?
if you took away voting for people you would turn the entire structure of the government, this republic, on it's ear.
please enlighten me...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
But, but, but, but my feelings are so hurt!!
You complain about this two party system yet you don't seem to want to do much to change it. So instead of jumping on a music message board why don't you stump for a worthwhile 3rd party? Is that a wasted vote? I think not. I voted 3rd party for President in 2008 because I'd never be able to look at myself in the mirror if I had voted for Obama or McCain.
On a side note please consider changing your odd style of typing, it is a bit painful to read. No offense but punctuation is also worthwhile.
Confucius...?
I'd love to be enlightened too...
show us the light, no1....
aah the guilt trip approach.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
In sum (the short version), as long as people continue to vote for only the 2 major parties and do not have continual participation and force representatives to hear and follow their voice, voting is meaningless. Without these two actions, it doesn't matter what party or which official is elected to government. The constant and impenetrable private interests and lobbying machine will never change otherwise, and as time goes on, the noose grows tighter as does the reach and breathe of their capabilities. Also, it'd be silly not to mention the media and public relations role in our society as they distract, polarize and dumb down everyone (as a whole) which merely feeds the system further and build disinterest and empathy. Also, and more of a side-note but still relevant is the fact that our voting system is skewed. Each vote is not equal and as we clearly see now, the system can be corrupted (which is a totally separate discussion in itself). But all in all, this is why voting is nothing more than a morally good, yet meaningless act nowadays. How do you change it? Participation and stop backing the groups who further the system as it is... ie, the political parties, the private industries, etc. Lastly, simply voting (no matter who you vote for) does not constitute fixing the system, society or anything similar. We have a society which only roughly 1/2 of the eligible voting population votes in major elections and even less in other elections. The constant participation and engagement is more necessary than simply pressing a button every so often on election day. When those things change, we'll see results. Perhaps this isn't the answer or result you were looking for, but it's the only practical and realistic way for things like voting to actually make a lick of difference in our nation. And with that said, I don't expect it anytime if at all.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Not that my vote makes even a slight difference as the party that wins around here does so by a landslide every election.