Deja Vu....Have we learned nothing?
gimmesometruth27
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this is very similar to the saber rattling we did with iraq. and look at how that turned out...do NOT let your elected officials take you to another war based on assumptions and possibilities of what iran MIGHT do or what they MIGHT have...
US has plan to attack Iran if needed, military chief admits
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/au ... lan-mullen
US has plan to attack Iran if needed, military chief admits
Admiral Mike Mullen says there is a plan to prevent Tehran acquiring nuclear arms, but adds: 'I hope we don't get to that'
Barack Obama's main military adviser said today the US does have a plan to attack Iran should it become needed as a means of stopping the Tehran regime from acquiring nuclear weapons.
Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the country's highest ranking officer, was asked by Meet the Press on NBC whether the military had a plan to attack Iran. "We do," he replied.
Mullen's comment was a rare admission on the part of any senior figure in the US government that plans have been drawn up for possible military action against Iran. The normal wording of disclaimers from those within and around the Obama administration is that "all options remain on the table".
He fell far short of suggesting there was any appetite on the part of the US for taking on the leaders of Iran in open conflict. He said it was unacceptable for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, but he said that equally he would be "extremely concerned" about the prospect of a military engagement.
Striking Iran could have "unintended consequences that are difficult to predict in what is an incredibly unstable part of the world".
The US approach to the threat of Iran developing the bomb, in line with that of the UK and France, has been to apply increasing pressure on Tehran through sanctions in the hope that it will bend to international will and suspend its uranium enrichment programme. "I am hopeful it works," Mullen said.
The Obama administration has always stressed that a military option remains a final fall-back. As Mullen put it: "I hope we don't get to that, but it's an important option and it's one that's well understood."
The UN in June imposed the toughest round of sanctions on Iran yet, targeting Iranian banks and export businesses. The move was followed by an even sterner set of restrictions from the EU, including a block on oil and gas investment in the country.
Shortly after the announcement of new sanctions, Tehran responded by saying it was ready to talk again about a possible deal in which it would swap its uranium for already enriched material that could be used in a civilian energy programme but would not be capable of conversion into a nuclear weapon. The Iranian regime has always denied that it has any intentions to produce a bomb.
US has plan to attack Iran if needed, military chief admits
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/au ... lan-mullen
US has plan to attack Iran if needed, military chief admits
Admiral Mike Mullen says there is a plan to prevent Tehran acquiring nuclear arms, but adds: 'I hope we don't get to that'
Barack Obama's main military adviser said today the US does have a plan to attack Iran should it become needed as a means of stopping the Tehran regime from acquiring nuclear weapons.
Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the country's highest ranking officer, was asked by Meet the Press on NBC whether the military had a plan to attack Iran. "We do," he replied.
Mullen's comment was a rare admission on the part of any senior figure in the US government that plans have been drawn up for possible military action against Iran. The normal wording of disclaimers from those within and around the Obama administration is that "all options remain on the table".
He fell far short of suggesting there was any appetite on the part of the US for taking on the leaders of Iran in open conflict. He said it was unacceptable for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, but he said that equally he would be "extremely concerned" about the prospect of a military engagement.
Striking Iran could have "unintended consequences that are difficult to predict in what is an incredibly unstable part of the world".
The US approach to the threat of Iran developing the bomb, in line with that of the UK and France, has been to apply increasing pressure on Tehran through sanctions in the hope that it will bend to international will and suspend its uranium enrichment programme. "I am hopeful it works," Mullen said.
The Obama administration has always stressed that a military option remains a final fall-back. As Mullen put it: "I hope we don't get to that, but it's an important option and it's one that's well understood."
The UN in June imposed the toughest round of sanctions on Iran yet, targeting Iranian banks and export businesses. The move was followed by an even sterner set of restrictions from the EU, including a block on oil and gas investment in the country.
Shortly after the announcement of new sanctions, Tehran responded by saying it was ready to talk again about a possible deal in which it would swap its uranium for already enriched material that could be used in a civilian energy programme but would not be capable of conversion into a nuclear weapon. The Iranian regime has always denied that it has any intentions to produce a bomb.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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take a good look
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Sammi: Wanna just break up?
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it's our own Government and their thirst for power at any cost that is the biggest threat to us. iran is not a threat. if we do attack them, it will be because of actions ultimately motivated by greed and the insatiable lust for power. the US will try and convince people that there is some real concern about the Iranian nuclear program, but that's just to hide their real objective. the real objective is to change the regime in Iran and install a government friendly to America.
they don't have our best interests at heart.
it is a ploy to keep the tax money flowing to the defense contractors and corporations. good luck trying to stop it.........
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
start enough wars and the law of averages says you just might win one.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok, i've had enough of you. i've just addressed the outlandish comments you make in another post. i have no clue why the mods let you get away with it, but i'm seriously really sick and tired of it.
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show me ONE post where anyone has said that Israel do not have a right to exist.
by the way, i started this thread to talk about possible us military involvement in iran, i would appreciate it if you would try to keep it on topic and stop with the distractions. thank you.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Let's just hope for now that this is much ado about nothing.
You have had enough of me ??? gimmie a break... :roll: So I should get banned for my opinion? What about all the negative things you have said about the Tea partiers. Like accusing us of being racist and many other accusations? At least I don't post degrading pictures of people asuming what they may look like.. Did you forget about that ??
my bad....I do know you better than that, Actually I agree with you I think we should stay out of it,but if they do devlop a nuke they will use it on Isreal. Ahmadinejad said he would wipe isreal off the map..
israel is quite capable of handling its own affairs. bets on who attacks first, iran or israel???
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
and the picture of the redneck sitting on the toilet seat calling Glenn Beck? how could i forget about that? you reported my post and got me banned remember.
and i thought so. you can't show me a post where anyone has said Israel do not have a right to exist. that just goes to show how much your opinion is worth doesn't it.
my point is world leaders talk almost as much smack as boxers who are promoting a fight...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
no he didn't and the last time i checked the only ones being 'wiped off the map' were the palestinians at the hands (or bulldozers) of the israeli's
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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DO you think Bush didn't want to?
So, I guess the point is that Bush wanted to get Bin Laden....Ahmadinejad wants to get rid of Israel....neither can do it though, yet.
yes i think bush WANTED to get bin laden, but when he diverted resources and marched us into iraq he said something like "i don't know where he is...truth is i don't spend much time on him..." or something like that, which tells me saddam hussein became the priority over bin laden when hussein HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY WE WERE FIGHTING IN THE FIRST PLACE..... apparently we had bin laden in the mountains of tora bora in december 2001 or '02 (i can't remember it has been so long) and he got away.
i do not think ahmadinajad wants to wipe israel off the map. he has shown that he might me a lunatic, but he is not stupid..
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Ahmadinejad never said Israel should be "wiped off the map"
it's just another lie that the uninformed and haters use to fuel their agenda. their agenda is bloodshed. warmongering, blood thirsty, irresponsible people. that's what the fear mongers are.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... 14/post155
thanks for the link. i remember posting something like this weeks ago.....Iran is not calling for the destruction of Israel, only idiots think that.
get your facts straight (again) especially regarding this.....there is a push to invade Iran, that is the most unimaginable crime a country can commit. an entire country targets of murder....and given the 1 million people the US has killed in IRaq, do we really want to visit that upon Iran as well?
wake the fuck up. reign in this empire, do not let it expand through war.