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TheRealDanPatchTheRealDanPatch Posts: 1,854
Wiki Says...

"Before a performance of the song at Pearl Jam's September 8, 1998 show in East Rutherford, New Jersey at Continental Airlines Arena, Vedder introduced it as "a song about being faithful."

Fan on another board says...

Song about suicide.

What's this song about?
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    I think the title is a good clue. It's called State of Love and Trust.
    Go with that idea.
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  • justam wrote:
    I think the title is a good clue. It's called State of Love and Trust.
    Go with that idea.

    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • LA98LA98 Posts: 256
    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??

    Just a guess, but maybe from watching SOLAT on Unplugged when Eddie puts his hand, formed like a gun, in his mouth...
  • LA98 wrote:
    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??

    Just a guess, but maybe from watching SOLAT on Unplugged when Eddie puts his hand, formed like a gun, in his mouth...
    Good point, I forgot all about that :thumbup:
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    justam wrote:
    I think the title is a good clue. It's called State of Love and Trust.
    Go with that idea.

    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??

    have you looked up the lyrics?!?!?

    Ohh
    State of love and trust as I busted down the pretext
    Sin still plays and preaches but to have an empty court uh huh
    And the signs are passing grip the wheel can't read it
    Sacrifice receiving the smell that's on my hands hands yeah

    And I listen for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself

    Lay her down as priest does should the lord be a counting
    Will be in my honor make it pain painfully clear uh huh
    Promises are whispered in the age of darkness
    Want to be enlightened like I want to be told the end end yeah

    And the barrel shakes aimed a-directly at my head
    Oh help me help me from myself yeah

    And I listen yeah for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself

    Uh huh
    Myself myself
    Yeah yeah
    Hey na na na na hey that's something (x3)
    Wanna back back it away yeah yeah

    And I listen yeah for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself yeah
    And the barrel waits, trigger shakes, aimed right at my head
    Won't you help me help me from myself


    Woo hey ooh
    Hey ooh (x6)
    Waah state of love and trust and a
    State of love and trust and a (x2)
    State of love and yeah yeah



    I can definitely see the suicide aspect, but i dont think thats the main theme. Its definitely an underlying theme, but Its just one of those songs that i dont worry about the meaning.... I just rock out :mrgreen:
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  • FrankieG wrote:
    justam wrote:
    I think the title is a good clue. It's called State of Love and Trust.
    Go with that idea.

    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??

    have you looked up the lyrics?!?!?

    Ohh
    State of love and trust as I busted down the pretext
    Sin still plays and preaches but to have an empty court uh huh
    And the signs are passing grip the wheel can't read it
    Sacrifice receiving the smell that's on my hands hands yeah

    And I listen for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself

    Lay her down as priest does should the lord be a counting
    Will be in my honor make it pain painfully clear uh huh
    Promises are whispered in the age of darkness
    Want to be enlightened like I want to be told the end end yeah

    And the barrel shakes aimed a-directly at my head
    Oh help me help me from myself yeah

    And I listen yeah for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself

    Uh huh
    Myself myself
    Yeah yeah
    Hey na na na na hey that's something (x3)
    Wanna back back it away yeah yeah

    And I listen yeah for the voice inside my head
    Nothing I'll do this one myself yeah
    And the barrel waits, trigger shakes, aimed right at my head
    Won't you help me help me from myself


    Woo hey ooh
    Hey ooh (x6)
    Waah state of love and trust and a
    State of love and trust and a (x2)
    State of love and yeah yeah



    I can definitely see the suicide aspect, but i dont think thats the main theme. Its definitely an underlying theme, but Its just one of those songs that i dont worry about the meaning.... I just rock out :mrgreen:

    Rock out indeed!
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    justam wrote:
    I think the title is a good clue. It's called State of Love and Trust.
    Go with that idea.

    I agree, but how does somebody get suicide out of this??

    Maybe it's the gun barrel aimed directly at his head, with the shaking trigger. There's definitely a contemplation of suicide in the lyrics. ("Help me from myself.")

    As I mentioned on another thread, I think it's about a man who kills someone, perhaps accidentally, and after attempting to bury the body in vain hope of appeasing God ("lay her down as priest does, should the Lord be counting"), thinks about killing himself, too.

    In fact, going line by line, I don't know what else it could be about, frankly. It seems almost straightforward.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • at this point, i consider this song to be about a person trying to make a relationship work, knowing that this significant other is worth the love and effort, knowing in his heart that the thing to be achieved is a "state of love and trust".

    the only thing is that our protagonist can not get to that point, that he is forever being distracted and misguided by the voices in his mind and head, tempting him, and seducing him to give in to other (quick) pleasures. and then eventually, it seems as if killing himself (killing the voices in his head) is the only way to get relieved from the constant rambling of the mind in these matters.

    to me, it seems as if the song is about a consumerist approach to relationships and how hard and frustrating it can be to get beyond that, to get to something on another level. a song about the intricate yet ever so difficult balance between the heart (that knows) and mind (that is constantly elsewhere, craving new experiences and triggers).. .
    "...bring it back someway bring it back, back, back... to the clean form, to the pure form..."

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