EdVed's recent changed up singing style
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I-ah have noticed, must-ah have been the smoking."FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam09250
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PJ radio proves this.
in a row, you get a live song from '96, one from '00, and then another one from '10.
2010 eddie sounds very out of place.0 -
I think most of you are missing the point of the OP. Yes, cigarettes may have changed his vocals but that's not what the OP was saying. Its Eddies enunciation with certain words in songs. Like Hoff said in red mosquito, " I was bitten," turns into " Ahhhhh--I was bitten" and "a little visit" turns into "a little vis-ehhh-it." i don't think any of that has to do with cigs.
Yes Ed cant scream like he used to, get over it....and I don't think that has to do with smoking either. Screaming takes a toll on your voice no matter what. He is a much better "singer," like hitting and sustaining notes, than he used to be.
His voice definitely quavers and shakes more than it used too like Come Back in Black said.
Please don't ever say the only difference between Scott Stapp and Eddie is that Eddie can play instruments. That's offensive. In fact just don't bring him up at all.0 -
I do like his "ah's" in songs. That's what makes Eddie awesome.Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
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foriginalsin wrote:Please don't ever say the only difference between Scott Stapp and Eddie is that Eddie can play instruments. That's offensive. In fact just don't bring him up at all.
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in response to the OP, I know what you're talking about. I personally don't like it myself. 2003 is the last tour where Eddie really sounded like his old self. after that, starting in 2006, he started to get pretty pitchy with all the "aaahhs" in a lot of songs. that's one of the main reasons I haven't bothered buying any recent boots. I don't like the way they're mixed, and Eddie's style of singing comes off much better in an actual live setting, actually being there at the show, than it does on the boots. but for example, whenever they play Whipping nowadays, he sings it like "Whipp-aaaaahhhhhhhng" instead of the "Whippiiiiiiiiing" we used to get. to me it sounds weak, but hey, if it's what he's gotta do to keep his voice preserved for long sets, then so be it. it's just unfortunate, that's all.0
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satans kitchen wrote:foriginalsin wrote:Please don't ever say the only difference between Scott Stapp and Eddie is that Eddie can play instruments. That's offensive. In fact just don't bring him up at all.
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a friend of mine says he is singing more gwen stefanish, although i can't tell********************************
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CJMST3K wrote:I've noticed in the last couple of years Ed seems to have changed his vocal styling. Seems like his singing abilities are still there (especially being able to nail "Reign O'er Me") but it's just the way he chooses to sing the notes or words is different. He seems to be adding "ah" in the middle of words, in tons of songs that didn't used to have it before.
Just one example:
Red Mosquito - '96 (regular EV singing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv2PGM4qu0s
Red Mosquito - '10 (revised singing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Rb1jeW ... re=related
"a-ah-loud to leave the the room....."
"i-ah-i was bitten..."
"i-ah-i was bitten..."
"a little vis-ah-it..."
Seems like he's adding an extra "ah" to many places that it didn't used to be. Anyone else notice this on more recent boots, in the last couple of years?
PERFECT examples. I think the first time I noticed this was on the All The Way recording, which was from '08 or '09? But it is ALL OVER the 09 2010 shows. ACL was also very obvious. I cannot believe how pained Ed looks to be singing Red Mosquito, it is NOT that hard of a song to sing.HailRoad24 wrote:Couldn't agree more. I think the "ah's" are more of a lack of breath on his part than anything else. He just doesn't have the lung capacity that he used to have. He still has some serious pipes (best example being Of the Earth), but he doesn't compare, even to 2003 standards, when he still had that even baritone that carried him through songs. He's getting older and the singing and smoking are taking its toll now.
BINGO. The "ah" in the middle or words or lines is lack of air. He's trying to sing it, he IS singing it, but it just doesn't come out. Age definitely causes a singer's voice to deepen in range, but the smoking helps it kill it off faster. It's not just being able to hit the high notes/screams, it's those lack-of-note spaces in the middle of words that is really making me worry. What will he sound like in 5 more years? 10 years?
If you want the best example I can think of to compare Ed's voice, put on headphones and listen to Man of the Hour demo (or even studio) followed by The End from Backspacer. One is warm and bright, the other is gasping for air and tired sounding. 6 year span. Try it and get back to me. Yeah, everyone defends it saying his voice has changed over time, he sounds BETTER now than a few years ago, blah blah blah... you can say that but the smoking definitely affects his voice, and NOT for the better.
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One thing he does (or doesn't do) is pronounce the "ing" in words. he always says everythin, anythin, somethin, etc.
He'll also fail to pronounce the end of the last word in any given chorus sometimes. Listen to the msg 03 version of gimme some truth. The entire time he's really saying " just gimme some true, all we want is the true, some fucking trueee!" it's pretty hilarious.5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
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Perhaps he needs to take an extra breath because his lung capacity isn't what it used to be. I don't think it's age, it's the smoking. Several singers continue to sound fantastic up to older ages (they probably don't smoke), so I disagree that age is a factor, at all.0
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Damn, I see exactly what you're talking about. Just listening to elderly woman from Venice ('10) on PJ radio and noticed it as I was simultaneously reading your post. "He-ah-arts and thoughts they fade..."We were but stones your light made us stars0
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I just noticed he's getting better each time I hear or see him. The man he has grown into is amazing. His presence on and off the stage. The angst of earlier years seems to be replaced now with emotion, almost like acting a song. This plays on his audience to arouse all kinds of feelings. I think he is comfortable with who he is and where he is in life which can be said for many of us as we age. All the guys seem happy, this is very good, makes for great music, great times and happy fans.0
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Jeanwah wrote:Perhaps he needs to take an extra breath because his lung capacity isn't what it used to be. I don't think it's age, it's the smoking. Several singers continue to sound fantastic up to older ages (they probably don't smoke), so I disagree that age is a factor, at all.0
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