Illegal aliens are here because the business that fund campaigns want them here. If we all focused on that we could maybe get somewhere. If you have your panties in a bunch about all the illegal aliens, call your representatives and tell them to enforce the already existing labor laws...and then donate more campaign money than big agra.
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did you figure in the amount of money they send home and how many of them pay taxes ? and how many pay rent...the canyons and hillside and riverbeds are full of these people that must pay their rent to the city for use of the areas they squat on right ? and what about medical bills that will never be paid unless of corse the tax payer picks up the tab as we always do, as I said I don't think the loss to gain is worth it and besides THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY , what do you think mexico would do if 8 to 10 million americans did the same thing to mexico ? what would the other 97% of this bord say then.
Godfather.
1)Well, according to Wikipedia Mexico receives 25 billion of remittances a year. We can assume that most is from the US. This figure includes the legal as well as illegal immigrants, so a certain portion of it must be discounted in this context.
2) Look further back at the CIS study prfctsleft posted for the tax figures. They focus solely on tax/federal treasury for their conclusions though.
3)Don't see how payment of rent changes anything in the equation. And it is my impression (and most people doing these calculations) that most of the 8-10 million illegal immigrants have a place to live. Thus they are paying rent that goes into the economy as landlord's profit.
4) Medical bills are included in the original 113 billion $.
As for the legality, that's another matter. I am just highlighting that the claim that they're a huge cost drain on the nation doesn't seem to be correct. Yes, they incur cost, but they also generate income that is spent, thus increasing the economy. You are free to kick out all illegals tomorrow if you decide, but that will hurt your economy as the TPG report I posted a bit back clearly shows. The question is "Is it worth it?". I won't even go into the logistics issues of rounding up and transporting 8+ million people.
Peace
Dan
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1)Well, according to Wikipedia Mexico receives 25 billion of remittances a year. We can assume that most is from the US. This figure includes the legal as well as illegal immigrants, so a certain portion of it must be discounted in this context.
2) Look further back at the CIS study prfctsleft posted for the tax figures. They focus solely on tax/federal treasury for their conclusions though.
3)Don't see how payment of rent changes anything in the equation. And it is my impression (and most people doing these calculations) that most of the 8-10 million illegal immigrants have a place to live. Thus they are paying rent that goes into the economy as landlord's profit.
4) Medical bills are included in the original 113 billion $.
As for the legality, that's another matter. I am just highlighting that the claim that they're a huge cost drain on the nation doesn't seem to be correct. Yes, they incur cost, but they also generate income that is spent, thus increasing the economy. You are free to kick out all illegals tomorrow if you decide, but that will hurt your economy as the TPG report I posted a bit back clearly shows. The question is "Is it worth it?". I won't even go into the logistics issues of rounding up and transporting 8+ million people.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
or how much they make for their employers?
or how much taxes they pay?
illegal immigrants aren't completely removed from the system, more the opposite