Stampedes and animal cruelty
haffajappa
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Go along with zoos and aquariums in my book.
according to the Calgary Herald, 6 horses have died at this year's stampede.
A sixth horse has died after it sustained an injury during Thursday night's chuckwagon races at the Calgary Stampede.
One of the outrider horses for Grant Preece stopped in the fourth turn during the sixth heat of the nightly event.
The animal was loaded into the horse ambulance and taken from the track.
Calgary Stampede spokesman Doug Fraser said the animal "suffered a breakdown injury to the right front limb."
"This injury is one of the most common catastrophic musculo-skeletal injuries among racing horses," he said.
Veterinarians were on the scene immediately and the decision was to euthanize the animal.
With three days left in this year's Stampede, six horses have died.
Following the fifth heat of the chuckwagon races Wednesday night, driver Kurt Bensmiller noticed one of his horses appeared to be in distress. It died in its stall of causes that are still unclear.
On Monday morning, a thoroughbred chuckwagon horse suffered a heart attack while doing routine exercises. Later, one of the Calgary Stampede's stock horses had to be euthanized after apparently breaking his back in the novice saddle bronc event.
That night, in the final heat of chuckwagon races, an outrider horse apparently injured its shoulder and collapsed after the rider dismounted.
The horse was euthanized.
Monday's deaths came just the day after rider Amy Carver's quarter horse suffered an apparent heart attack and collapsed on her during the team cattle penning event. Carver was taken to hospital with a broken shoulder blade and serious head injury.
Last year four animals -- three horses and one steer -- died during the 10-day Stampede.
according to the Calgary Herald, 6 horses have died at this year's stampede.
A sixth horse has died after it sustained an injury during Thursday night's chuckwagon races at the Calgary Stampede.
One of the outrider horses for Grant Preece stopped in the fourth turn during the sixth heat of the nightly event.
The animal was loaded into the horse ambulance and taken from the track.
Calgary Stampede spokesman Doug Fraser said the animal "suffered a breakdown injury to the right front limb."
"This injury is one of the most common catastrophic musculo-skeletal injuries among racing horses," he said.
Veterinarians were on the scene immediately and the decision was to euthanize the animal.
With three days left in this year's Stampede, six horses have died.
Following the fifth heat of the chuckwagon races Wednesday night, driver Kurt Bensmiller noticed one of his horses appeared to be in distress. It died in its stall of causes that are still unclear.
On Monday morning, a thoroughbred chuckwagon horse suffered a heart attack while doing routine exercises. Later, one of the Calgary Stampede's stock horses had to be euthanized after apparently breaking his back in the novice saddle bronc event.
That night, in the final heat of chuckwagon races, an outrider horse apparently injured its shoulder and collapsed after the rider dismounted.
The horse was euthanized.
Monday's deaths came just the day after rider Amy Carver's quarter horse suffered an apparent heart attack and collapsed on her during the team cattle penning event. Carver was taken to hospital with a broken shoulder blade and serious head injury.
Last year four animals -- three horses and one steer -- died during the 10-day Stampede.
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I getcha there. I had a conversation with someone else...perhaps SCB...about circus, etc.
I am a BIG fan of most zoos. I think the education they do far outweighs any of the negatives.
I also wonder about some animal shows...do they provide enough to create people that love animals or is it simple abuse.
the education you can get at a regular zoo you can just as easily get on the discovery channel.
when i have children the only thing i'll educate on is the abuse and cruelty that goes on in the zoos - especially the one near where i live.
i also see the negatives vs positives in this situation apples and oranges. yes of course they'res no negatives for the human - but i don't see how the human's education is a positive for the thing locked up in a cage.
I don't think that is true at all. I have been to 4 or 5 zoos in my life and it is one thing to see an elephant in a book or on tv and it is something totally different to see one in real life. I think if you only ever see animals like lions or tigers in books or on tv it is easy to feel a sense of detachment like they are not really something that I should care about, so who cares if they get wiped out. But seeing one in person can totally change a persons viewpoint.
I agree with this.
how do you deal with astronomy class? :shock:
What does animals going extinct have to do with astronomy? Are poachers trying to make the sun go extinct? Why was I not told about this?
You can't touch pluto or hailey's comet or jupiter...
You learn about Space and the planets through pictorial things... Doesn't mean they aren't there, and they aren't relevent.
To say, "oh i need a zoo to learn how "real" these animals are, so then it makes them suddenly worthwhile on this planet" is kind of bizarre.
I don't see why? Humans generally have a better apperciation for things that they can see first hand. I mean it is one thing to read about the gulf oil spill damage or the Haiti earthquake, but I imagine if I saw those things in person my feelings on them would be way different. It is the same thing why travel is popular, people want to experience things for themselves. I mean why ever go anywhere if you can just read about places in travel books. It is the same thing with animals. Actually seeing a giraffe or a polar bear is way different then just reading about one in a book or seeing one on tv, and seeing them alive and real I think makes people appreciate them more and want to protect them, or at least have stronger feelings about it.
But to require it? So then if you can't travel to the oil spill or haiti, should i come and throw oil on your lawn and drive a tractor through your house? Just so you're more inclined to feel for the situation...
I am not sure I understand. Who said anything about requiring anything? All I suggested that zoo's are valuable because they make it possible to see and appreciate animals better than books or tv does, without having to go on safari or travel to far off places. Which in turn gives people a better appreciation for why it is important to help save animals.
Plus I always kind of figured that for animals living in a zoo would probably be pretty sweet. I mean for wild animals pretty much every moment of every day you are on guard fighting for your life. In a zoo, you don't have to worry about predators, or finding food, or falling of a cliff or getting drowing in a flood. It is like the animal equivalent of a spa resort.
Plus every zoo I have ever been too, seems to spend a lot of its donation money and a ton of effort trying to protect wildlife habitats and saving endangered species. All of these thngs I mentioned are good reasons to have zoos around and certainly outweigh any possible bad reasons.
And don't have to live in piles of their own shit all day.
(Both issues at the local zoo in Vancouver)
So you're saying that, because a human's ability to understand the situation is greater only if they can actually see the animal from 5 feet away, that outweighs the animal's suffering in captivity...
That is exactly what I am saying. Sure one animal might not like it having to live in a smaller habitat than what it is used to but even if he or she is suffering, if that saves 100's or even 1000's of other animals it is totally worth it. And I think in a lot of places the suffering is debatable, especially since I think a lot of zoos take in animals that they rescue.
How many zoos have you been to?
when i was a kid ... quite a few ... stopped going a long time ago ... have seen animals more in their natural settings ... ie safari and marine animals kayaking and such ...
I'm not sure if there is any correlation between going to zoos and interest in saving animals lives elsewhere...
I think its a nice idea to think that people will care more after seeing animals stuck in a cage or a pool, but really the zoo is just a nice day out for little timmy to see some cool creatures up close.
The zoos/aquariums here are always in trouble... from not feeding the animals, to mixing species that shouldnt be in the same cage, to not cleaning out their pens...
Polaris is right, like everything, its all about the $$$
You'd be crazy to think otherwise.
AND NOT to be confused with animal conservation centres...