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Anti-immigration groups split on Utah list
After an anonymous group of anti-immigration activists distributed a list of some 1,300 names and personal information purportedly belonging to Utah residents who are in the country illegally, no one is rushing forward to take credit for an act of information vigilantism that is against Utah state law. The list, which went out to state and federal enforcement officials as well as to local media outlets and state political leaders, came with a note urging that all the people included on it be deported — even though follow-up press reports have indicated that some of the names belong to legal residents of the United States.
Local and national anti-illegal-immigration groups tell Yahoo! News they are not responsible for the move. But the groups don't uniformly condemn publishing the anonymous accusations — which in turn bespeaks a revealing split in just how far different groups are willing to go in their push for more aggressive enforcement against illegal immigrants.
Ron Mortensen, co-founder of the Utah Coalition on Illegal Immigration, says he objects to the list because there is "no justification" for releasing someone's private information. His group is pushing for the state to pass an immigration law modeled on Arizona's next year, and says the controversy over the list is "not helpful" for the movement.
Utah Minuteman Project co-chair Eli Cawley, however, was not so concerned about privacy violations — though he also said his group was not behind the list. "It's probably against some privacy laws," he said on local radio station KSL. "But I think in the interest of preserving our civilization, preserving our society, and protecting the people of the state of Utah, I think that's a greater interest than protecting the privacy of some individuals."
The list contained some Social Security numbers, addresses, dates of birth, and phone numbers of people — including 200 children — it accused of being in the country illegally. A letter from the anonymous group Concerned Citizens for the United States attached to the list also pointed out that six women on the list were pregnant and should be deported immediately. (ABC News has posted the letter here.)
Bob Dane, a spokesman for Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), backed away from the vigilante tactic. He told Yahoo! News that his organization encourages people to report illegal immigrants to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) tip line. "If citizens want to help fight illegal immigration, use the tip line. And pressure politicians to enforce the laws," he said. An attorney for FAIR's legal arm helped craft the Arizona immigration law.
Meanwhile, William Gheen, president of the anti-illegal-immigration political action committee Americans for Legal Immigration, said the people behind the list are "heroes" who are expressing frustration with a lack of federal immigration enforcement.
Mortensen and Gheen said ICE's tip line is "useless" because of the agency's policy of prioritizing the investigation of illegal immigrants who could be a threat to society. An ICE spokeswoman told the Associated Press that the agency focuses "first on those dangerous convicted criminal aliens who present the greatest risk to the security of our communities, not sweeps or raids to target undocumented immigrants indiscriminately."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20 ... -utah-list
Anti-immigration groups split on Utah list
After an anonymous group of anti-immigration activists distributed a list of some 1,300 names and personal information purportedly belonging to Utah residents who are in the country illegally, no one is rushing forward to take credit for an act of information vigilantism that is against Utah state law. The list, which went out to state and federal enforcement officials as well as to local media outlets and state political leaders, came with a note urging that all the people included on it be deported — even though follow-up press reports have indicated that some of the names belong to legal residents of the United States.
Local and national anti-illegal-immigration groups tell Yahoo! News they are not responsible for the move. But the groups don't uniformly condemn publishing the anonymous accusations — which in turn bespeaks a revealing split in just how far different groups are willing to go in their push for more aggressive enforcement against illegal immigrants.
Ron Mortensen, co-founder of the Utah Coalition on Illegal Immigration, says he objects to the list because there is "no justification" for releasing someone's private information. His group is pushing for the state to pass an immigration law modeled on Arizona's next year, and says the controversy over the list is "not helpful" for the movement.
Utah Minuteman Project co-chair Eli Cawley, however, was not so concerned about privacy violations — though he also said his group was not behind the list. "It's probably against some privacy laws," he said on local radio station KSL. "But I think in the interest of preserving our civilization, preserving our society, and protecting the people of the state of Utah, I think that's a greater interest than protecting the privacy of some individuals."
The list contained some Social Security numbers, addresses, dates of birth, and phone numbers of people — including 200 children — it accused of being in the country illegally. A letter from the anonymous group Concerned Citizens for the United States attached to the list also pointed out that six women on the list were pregnant and should be deported immediately. (ABC News has posted the letter here.)
Bob Dane, a spokesman for Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), backed away from the vigilante tactic. He told Yahoo! News that his organization encourages people to report illegal immigrants to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) tip line. "If citizens want to help fight illegal immigration, use the tip line. And pressure politicians to enforce the laws," he said. An attorney for FAIR's legal arm helped craft the Arizona immigration law.
Meanwhile, William Gheen, president of the anti-illegal-immigration political action committee Americans for Legal Immigration, said the people behind the list are "heroes" who are expressing frustration with a lack of federal immigration enforcement.
Mortensen and Gheen said ICE's tip line is "useless" because of the agency's policy of prioritizing the investigation of illegal immigrants who could be a threat to society. An ICE spokeswoman told the Associated Press that the agency focuses "first on those dangerous convicted criminal aliens who present the greatest risk to the security of our communities, not sweeps or raids to target undocumented immigrants indiscriminately."
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Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
That's the list I want to see.
Hail, Hail!!!
Word. That is the only "list" necessary. Problem solved.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
the people are starting to stand up for themselfs......cool !
Godfather.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You do realize that what they did is illegal, right?
so is sneaking into our country....right ?
Godfather.
So... commiting a crime to combat a crime is... what? Okay in your book?
Hail, Hail!!!
And you do realize not everyone whose personal information they published even snuck into this country, right? How would you feel if your name, birthday, social security number, address, phone number, medical information, etc. were on that list? I mean, hey, it's for a good cause and if you're not breaking the law you shouldn't have anything to worry about, right? And what about the children on the list? Children. Who have now been named in a witch hunt. Most importantly, though, it's incredibly fucking hypocritical to suggest that the people who made the list should be able to break the law but the people on the list shouldn't. If breaking the law is okay with you, there should be no need for the list.
Scb: I never said it was legal or even right to steal that list, buuuut it is what it is and why didn't the government use that list to start cleaning house ?
Godfather.
you get a little carried away don't ya, I 'll bet you thrive on drama...so glad we ain't neighbors.
Godfather.
Other than knowingly distributing personal information data to people who may or may not be in this country leagally... what is another example?
Hail, Hail!!!
LOL!!!! well my wife stole my heart so I stole hers.
Godfather.
My bad. I thought when you said "cool" that meant you supported it.
Yes, I do get a little carried away. No, I don't thrive on drama. And I thought we already agreed that if you became my neighbor I would kill you.
Godfather.
It looks like they caught the two state employees who put the list together and sent it out to authorities. They broke the law and will be dealt with accordingly.
My question is, just how easy would it be to identify illegal aliens if these two guys could (assuming the list is accurate)? I'm guessing they are not computer hacking geniuses, otherwise they would not be working for the government handing out food stamps.