His mother is quoted in article as saying she thinks what he does was "kinda neat."
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'Kinda neat'... I can understand, it's his Mom and all... Is it going to be 'Kinda neat' when she has to pay his attorney's fees... or is the State going to cover those costs.
And yeah... Crime is 'Kind neat'... to criminals.
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My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You have to admit it is kind of a fun story. Something they make movies out of. Well maybe if he had been on the run for a little longer.
Yeah, a couple of years of robbing houses and joy-riding planes isn't really Frank Abagnale territory.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
In my opinion it was the plane stealing. Can you imagine if he had crashed into someone? Besides, I think that actually was the worst crime he commited because of crossing state boundaries and all.
Bottom line- we, as a society, can not let the romanticism involved in this to get in the way of the fact that he committed all of those crimes.
I take my hat off to the guy, the people who send him to jail and all those righteous assholes in Washington do far worse on a daily basis and get away with it, as far as I know he never harmed anybody.
Long live the free spirit.
I take my hat off to the guy, the people who send him to jail and all those righteous assholes in Washington do far worse on a daily basis and get away with it, as far as I know he never harmed anybody.
Long live the free spirit.
Wonder how you'd feel if it was your stuff that he stole? Just because some people do worse, doesn't make lesser things ok.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I take my hat off to the guy, the people who send him to jail and all those righteous assholes in Washington do far worse on a daily basis and get away with it, as far as I know he never harmed anybody.
Long live the free spirit.
Wonder how you'd feel if it was your stuff that he stole? Just because some people do worse, doesn't make lesser things ok.
Yes I would be angry but I guess I just like the freedom aspect of the adventure and it does not make lesser things ok, it just puts things in perspective, I'm all for equal justice across the board.
....I just like the freedom aspect of the adventure .
Evading arrest for two years whilst committing over 50 burglaries. Not to mention the planes! Also, I seem to remember having read that he did a runner from a halfway house, already serving a sentence for thefts (having committed his first burglary age 12). Not really someone to 'romanticize' over. Wouldn't call him a 'free spirit' but a downright little shit who belongs where is now is. And I would say the same if he were my son.
....I just like the freedom aspect of the adventure .
Evading arrest for two years whilst committing over 50 burglaries. Not to mention the planes! Also, I seem to remember having read that he did a runner from a halfway house, already serving a sentence for thefts (having committed his first burglary age 12). Not really someone to 'romanticize' over. Wouldn't call him a 'free spirit' but a downright little shit who belongs where is now is. And I would say the same if he were my son.
I take my hat off to the guy, the people who send him to jail and all those righteous assholes in Washington do far worse on a daily basis and get away with it, as far as I know he never harmed anybody.
Long live the free spirit.
i think the dude is fantastic.
what a genius.
he is awesome.
....I just like the freedom aspect of the adventure .
Evading arrest for two years whilst committing over 50 burglaries. Not to mention the planes! Also, I seem to remember having read that he did a runner from a halfway house, already serving a sentence for thefts (having committed his first burglary age 12). Not really someone to 'romanticize' over. Wouldn't call him a 'free spirit' but a downright little shit who belongs where is now is. And I would say the same if he were my son.
Does anybody know what sort of childhood he had?
Typical background for disturbed kids... alcoholic dad who left when he was tiny, mother with alcohol issues as well and loads of boyfriends, etc. Whatever the background, it does not excuse 'us' making him a bit of a hero....
Free spirits buy backpacks and granola and wander the Sierra Nevadas. They don't steal airplanes, boats, cars, and break into over 100 homes. Free spirits don't have their trailer park mother contacting famous Seattle attorneys to pre-arrange book and movie deals.
I'll admit, it is a very interesting story, but it doesn't make up for the fact that this guy is a dickhead. I have no respect for thieves.
Typical background for disturbed kids... alcoholic dad who left when he was tiny, mother with alcohol issues as well and loads of boyfriends, etc. Whatever the background, it does not excuse 'us' making him a bit of a hero....[/quote]
I know what you are saying but we love the underdog.
I know what you are saying but we love the underdog.
It's a criminal evading justice. His crimes were 'property' crimes - is that why people see him in an underdog or in a 'heroic' way? Seems people think property crimes don't hurt anyone..
What if this person (who had 4 other previous convictions) was guilty of rape or assault or murder instead of theft and burglary? Would you still be saying you love the underdog? Would he still be a fantastic dude and the free spirit? Would his evasion still be the 'adventure'? I don't think so.
The above may be a bit exaggerated but acrime is a crime. If he stole your property, burgled your house you would also think differently. This man started his criminal career at a young age and is likely to continue. What happens the day he encounters someone in the house he breaks into and he encounters 'resistance'?
I know what you are saying but we love the underdog.
It's a criminal evading justice. His crimes were 'property' crimes - is that why people see him in an underdog or in a 'heroic' way? Seems people think property crimes don't hurt anyone..
What if this person (who had 4 other previous convictions) was guilty of rape or assault or murder instead of theft and burglary? Would you still be saying you love the underdog? Would he still be a fantastic dude and the free spirit? Would his evasion still be the 'adventure'? I don't think so.
The above may be a bit exaggerated but acrime is a crime. If he stole your property, burgled your house you would also think differently. This man started his criminal career at a young age and is likely to continue. What happens the day he encounters someone in the house he breaks into and he encounters 'resistance'?
It is definitely related to the type of crime, I think they call them victimless crimes even though there is always a victim no matter what. Also the upbringing he had, if a rich person had done the same thing it would just be like Oh yeah another board rich kid but this guy had nothing going for him.
...if a rich person had done the same thing it would just be like Oh yeah another board rich kid but this guy had nothing going for him.
So we can excuse and/or 'glorify' crimes committed by people from broken/troubled homes? Obviously as long as they are property crimes, it would seem. There are plenty of rich kids from broken homes with alcoholic parents. Why can we not excuse them? Could they not be just as troubled as those from poorer homes? Are they not worth a film deal? You will say they have a better life because they have the money but for a kid/teen, but for a kid/teen what disturbs them comes from 'within'.
...if a rich person had done the same thing it would just be like Oh yeah another board rich kid but this guy had nothing going for him.
So we can excuse and/or 'glorify' crimes committed by people from broken/troubled homes? Obviously as long as they are property crimes, it would seem. There are plenty of rich kids from broken homes with alcoholic parents. Why can we not excuse them? Could they not be just as troubled as those from poorer homes? Are they not worth a film deal? You will say they have a better life because they have the money but for a kid/teen, but for a kid/teen what disturbs them comes from 'within'.
You are correct in everything you say, I guess it's just the rebel in certain people that makes us cheer for him.
...if a rich person had done the same thing it would just be like Oh yeah another board rich kid but this guy had nothing going for him.
So we can excuse and/or 'glorify' crimes committed by people from broken/troubled homes? Obviously as long as they are property crimes, it would seem. There are plenty of rich kids from broken homes with alcoholic parents. Why can we not excuse them? Could they not be just as troubled as those from poorer homes? Are they not worth a film deal? You will say they have a better life because they have the money but for a kid/teen, but for a kid/teen what disturbs them comes from 'within'.
You are correct in everything you say, I guess it's just the rebel in certain people that makes us cheer for him.
Maybe it's because I'm a mother of a teenager that I don't see it that way. Even if I am still a rebel at heart at my grand ol' age!
I know what you are saying but we love the underdog.
It's a criminal evading justice. His crimes were 'property' crimes - is that why people see him in an underdog or in a 'heroic' way? Seems people think property crimes don't hurt anyone..
What if this person (who had 4 other previous convictions) was guilty of rape or assault or murder instead of theft and burglary? Would you still be saying you love the underdog? Would he still be a fantastic dude and the free spirit? Would his evasion still be the 'adventure'? I don't think so.
The above may be a bit exaggerated but acrime is a crime. If he stole your property, burgled your house you would also think differently. This man started his criminal career at a young age and is likely to continue. What happens the day he encounters someone in the house he breaks into and he encounters 'resistance'?
It is definitely related to the type of crime, I think they call them victimless crimes even though there is always a victim no matter what. Also the upbringing he had, if a rich person had done the same thing it would just be like Oh yeah another board rich kid but this guy had nothing going for him.
victimless crimes are things like prostitution and possession of illegal drugs, not burglery
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It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Free spirits buy backpacks and granola and wander the Sierra Nevadas. They don't steal airplanes, boats, cars, and break into over 100 homes. Free spirits don't have their trailer park mother contacting famous Seattle attorneys to pre-arrange book and movie deals.
I'll admit, it is a very interesting story, but it doesn't make up for the fact that this guy is a dickhead. I have no respect for thieves.
i was watchin the news and i think his mother lives in a log home out in the trees.
i don't think it's a trailer court.
yes stealing sucks.
the dude is awesome though.
he learned how to fly doing research online.
he has major balls.
he is so smart he is dangerously stupid.
I know police beatings like the one Rodney King (another pillar of society) received are illegal so my hopes for him receiving one, by the police, are dashed. I can only hope he gets into the "general population" in a lovely facility like San Quentin where he can enjoy the days, and especially the nights, with his peers. I don't care how he got to be what he is. If he is smart enough to figure out how to fly an airplane, he should be smart enough to figure out right and wrong, the basic rules of society which includes respect for other people and their property. I think that by the time he is released from prison, it will physiologically impossible for his farts to be audible. Good!
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
I know police beatings like the one Rodney King (another pillar of society) received are illegal so my hopes for him receiving one, by the police, are dashed. I can only hope he gets into the "general population" in a lovely facility like San Quentin where he can enjoy the days, and especially the nights, with his peers. I don't care how he got to be what he is. If he is smart enough to figure out how to fly an airplane, he should be smart enough to figure out right and wrong, the basic rules of society which includes respect for other people and their property. I think that by the time he is released from prison, it will physiologically impossible for his farts to be audible. Good!
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'Kinda neat'... I can understand, it's his Mom and all... Is it going to be 'Kinda neat' when she has to pay his attorney's fees... or is the State going to cover those costs.
And yeah... Crime is 'Kind neat'... to criminals.
Hail, Hail!!!
I hope they throw the book at him.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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Yeah, a couple of years of robbing houses and joy-riding planes isn't really Frank Abagnale territory.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Bottom line- we, as a society, can not let the romanticism involved in this to get in the way of the fact that he committed all of those crimes.
Long live the free spirit.
Wonder how you'd feel if it was your stuff that he stole? Just because some people do worse, doesn't make lesser things ok.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Evading arrest for two years whilst committing over 50 burglaries. Not to mention the planes! Also, I seem to remember having read that he did a runner from a halfway house, already serving a sentence for thefts (having committed his first burglary age 12). Not really someone to 'romanticize' over. Wouldn't call him a 'free spirit' but a downright little shit who belongs where is now is. And I would say the same if he were my son.
what a genius.
he is awesome.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Typical background for disturbed kids... alcoholic dad who left when he was tiny, mother with alcohol issues as well and loads of boyfriends, etc. Whatever the background, it does not excuse 'us' making him a bit of a hero....
I'll admit, it is a very interesting story, but it doesn't make up for the fact that this guy is a dickhead. I have no respect for thieves.
Typical background for disturbed kids... alcoholic dad who left when he was tiny, mother with alcohol issues as well and loads of boyfriends, etc. Whatever the background, it does not excuse 'us' making him a bit of a hero....[/quote]
I know what you are saying but we love the underdog.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
What if this person (who had 4 other previous convictions) was guilty of rape or assault or murder instead of theft and burglary? Would you still be saying you love the underdog? Would he still be a fantastic dude and the free spirit? Would his evasion still be the 'adventure'? I don't think so.
The above may be a bit exaggerated but acrime is a crime. If he stole your property, burgled your house you would also think differently. This man started his criminal career at a young age and is likely to continue. What happens the day he encounters someone in the house he breaks into and he encounters 'resistance'?
he would have to change his name, there's a 50 doller fee and you need your birth certificate, kind of a pain in the ass.
So we can excuse and/or 'glorify' crimes committed by people from broken/troubled homes? Obviously as long as they are property crimes, it would seem. There are plenty of rich kids from broken homes with alcoholic parents. Why can we not excuse them? Could they not be just as troubled as those from poorer homes? Are they not worth a film deal? You will say they have a better life because they have the money but for a kid/teen, but for a kid/teen what disturbs them comes from 'within'.
Maybe it's because I'm a mother of a teenager that I don't see it that way. Even if I am still a rebel at heart at my grand ol' age!
victimless crimes are things like prostitution and possession of illegal drugs, not burglery
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
i don't think it's a trailer court.
yes stealing sucks.
the dude is awesome though.
he learned how to fly doing research online.
he has major balls.
he is so smart he is dangerously stupid.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce