oscar grant's murder and unjust verdict

fuck
fuck Posts: 4,069
edited July 2010 in A Moving Train
that's the US for you - you kill the wrong person, you're a thug or a terrorist, you kill the right person, you're a cop or a US soldier.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    _outlaw wrote:
    that's the US for you - you kill the wrong person, you're a thug or a terrorist, you kill the right person, you're a cop or a US soldier.
    or if you come from the wrong country you're a thug or a terrorist
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    48 views and only 2 comments. wow.

    involuntary manslaughter. 2-4 years. Americas judical system. what a joke. you should be more ashamed than usual.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    What was the cops defence? That he thought he'd grabbed his taser?
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What was the cops defence? That he thought he'd grabbed his taser?
    I think so
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    video evidence didn't support his claims of taser confusion. Mehserle had held his weapon with both hands when he was trained to use just his left if he was firing a taser.

    the judge that ordered Mehserle to stand trial for murder, said that after viewing all the evidence, there was no doubt in his mind that Mehserle intended to shoot Oscar Grant, (who was unarmed), with a gun and not a taser.

    unluckily for Mehserle, there were lots of witnesses and video footage of the inicident caputured on cell phones etc.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Does anybody really think this cop shot this guy on purpose ? Why would someone risk throwing their entire life away. Loosing their carrer, his family and going to prison. Did it ever occur to anyone that sometimes people make mistakes ? Even trained professionals ?
    With that being said. I don't know if the jury got it right or not, but maybe they did. I wasn't in the court room. All Im saying is It's hard for me to accept that he shot the guy on purpose and that he would think that he could somehow get away with it.
    Maybe im wrong.. :think:
  • Stypo420
    Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Anyone else think it is strange that there was no black people on the jury?

    just another example of WMA.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Does anybody really think this cop shot this guy on purpose ? Why would someone risk throwing their entire life away. Loosing their carrer, his family and going to prison. Did it ever occur to anyone that sometimes people make mistakes ? Even trained professionals ?
    With that being said. I don't know if the jury got it right or not, but maybe they did. I wasn't in the court room. All Im saying is It's hard for me to accept that he shot the guy on purpose and that he would think that he could somehow get away with it.
    Maybe im wrong.. :think:
    ...
    Unless he wasn't aware of the presense of a camera, capturing the scene. People act completely different when a camera comes into play.
    ...
    Also... not knowing where the GUN is on your belt... that's a BIG fucking mistake.
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Cosmo wrote:
    Unless he wasn't aware of the presense of a camera, capturing the scene. People act completely different when a camera comes into play.
    ...
    Also... not knowing where the GUN is on your belt... that's a BIG fucking mistake.



    As far as the camera goes,you would think he would be well aware of cameras.After all wasn't he a transit cop ? and didn't the shooting take place in the subway station ? You are right though about cameras and people acting differently. So if he did do it on purpose you would think he would of thought that it might not be a good idea to shoot this kid considering that their are cameras everywhere. :think:
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Unless he wasn't aware of the presense of a camera, capturing the scene. People act completely different when a camera comes into play.
    ...
    Also... not knowing where the GUN is on your belt... that's a BIG fucking mistake.



    As far as the camera goes,you would think he would be well aware of cameras.After all wasn't he a transit cop ? and didn't the shooting take place in the subway station ? You are right though about cameras and people acting differently. So if he did do it on purpose you would think he would of thought that it might not be a good idea to shoot this kid considering that their are cameras everywhere. :think:
    ...
    Who knows? Other than himself and the kid. Unfortunately, only one gets to tell his side.
    Maybe the kid said something that made him blow a fuse... who knows?
    If anything... he should get minimum of 4 to 6 for being an idiot cop that cannot keep a proper inventory of the weapons on his belt.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Cosmo wrote:
    Also... not knowing where the GUN is on your belt... that's a BIG fucking mistake.

    That's what gets me... cops I know can tell when they pick up there service weapon if it's loaded or unloaded just by the weight and balance of it... You telling me a cop mistakenly thought his gun was a taser? bullshit...
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Yeah... all in all i'ts a sad story and lots of lives have been affected by this tragic event. Hopefully something good will come from it and I hope the victims family will someday be able to find peace. Ive heard that theres no thing worse than loosing a child. :( :(
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,882
    I'm not sure how you mistake a gun for a taser...especially a trained officer. That said, maybe he did get caught up in the moment and panicked a bit and it was a mistake.

    Still, I think it's a pretty big mistake. I didn't get to sit through the trial so I don't know what I think is appropriate.

    The aftermath...riots...breaking store windows, etc, is just as sad. I can't believe people do that sort of thing...what the hell is wrong with them?
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    The aftermath...riots...breaking store windows, etc, is just as sad. I can't believe people do that sort of thing...what the hell is wrong with them?

    i'm saddened that the world hasn't rioted in general ... ;)
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    _outlaw wrote:
    ... you kill the right person, you're a cop or a US soldier.
    ... or a former starting running back for USC and the Buffalo Bills. Let's get Ray Lewis' lawyer on the phone and see what he thinks.
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Does anybody really think this cop shot this guy on purpose ? Why would someone risk throwing their entire life away. Loosing their carrer, his family and going to prison. Did it ever occur to anyone that sometimes people make mistakes ? Even trained professionals ?
    With that being said. I don't know if the jury got it right or not, but maybe they did. I wasn't in the court room. All Im saying is It's hard for me to accept that he shot the guy on purpose and that he would think that he could somehow get away with it.
    Maybe im wrong.. :think:
    there's people who don't do the right thing in any occupation and risk losing their careers, families and prison time. not just law enforcement people. prfctlefts, of course people make mistakes, that's the nature of the beast, none of us are perfect and we all make mistakes. this wasn't a mistake though. i think if you looked at the facts and evidence surrounding this case, you would find it pretty hard to swallow that this was an accident.

    no-ones saying all law enforcement officers are assholes or murderers. there's plenty of good guys.

    the reality is some are not so good. here's some examples. they are not above the law and should be prosecuted to the same standards you or i would be.

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... d=54162036

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