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Yet another data point on why the Obama administration and BP are both so concerned about media access to spill areas comes courtesy of this youtube video by jamescfox. In his own words: "Oil and water samples were taken from both the Shores of Grand Isle and from 20 miles out. The preliminary analysis was done at an academic analytical chemistry laboratory. Looking for the likely pollutants from the deep water Horizon Oil spill. It was focused on the detection of benzene and propylene glycol. Benzene and other highly toxic contaminants were very low however the concentration of propylene glycol was between 360 and 440 parts per million. Just 25 parts per million is know to kill most fish and propylene glycol is just one of many ingredients found in Corexit. In short, the Gulf is being poisoned by BP's usage of the dispersants even after the EPA asked them to stop back in May. We are willing to provide ANY respected/known laboratory these samples or provide them with more. This is very serious to all people and marine life in and around the Gulf."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq65E7rm ... r_embedded
Yet another data point on why the Obama administration and BP are both so concerned about media access to spill areas comes courtesy of this youtube video by jamescfox. In his own words: "Oil and water samples were taken from both the Shores of Grand Isle and from 20 miles out. The preliminary analysis was done at an academic analytical chemistry laboratory. Looking for the likely pollutants from the deep water Horizon Oil spill. It was focused on the detection of benzene and propylene glycol. Benzene and other highly toxic contaminants were very low however the concentration of propylene glycol was between 360 and 440 parts per million. Just 25 parts per million is know to kill most fish and propylene glycol is just one of many ingredients found in Corexit. In short, the Gulf is being poisoned by BP's usage of the dispersants even after the EPA asked them to stop back in May. We are willing to provide ANY respected/known laboratory these samples or provide them with more. This is very serious to all people and marine life in and around the Gulf."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq65E7rm ... r_embedded
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we haven't needed oil for a long time ... :(
that would be the plane
it's time to free ourselves!
Well, in reality, that sort of solar technology is nowhere near advanced enough to free us from oil.
Don't get me wrong, it is a step in the right direction, but it's going to take much more than this to get us off of our oil addiction.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
i believe this to be a myth ... i believe this to be a successful campaign not only in propaganda but in policy as well capitulated by a corporatized government ...
this plane just didn't fly around the block and back ... it flew 26 hours and through the night using solar panels and batteries which have been around some time ... we have homes now that are totally off the grid but still afford people the same livability they are used to ...
we can cut our oil dependency by 75% (ok - i made up that number but when i compare my oil consumption versus others - it's around that less) right now using existing technology ... we just can't continue to subsidize an industry that is not only polluting and destroying the planet ... it is also the foundation of war and violence around the world ...
we don't need it ...
I was thinking more on the lines of aircraft... Yes, homes can be relatively easily made to survive off the grid (albeit with a pretty substantial investment), and this solar technology can be used in cars (the panels have to be very efficient with the small surface area of a car).
But the billions of gallons of jet fuel used will not be decreased for decades to come. This plane doesn't look like much more than a glider with a larger wingspan, and the article I read said that it reached 75 mph... This technology can't come close to even think about powering a commercial or military aircraft.
And we can cut our personal usage much easier than our overall usage. I have no idea of what the statistics are, but driving about 1000 miles on this holiday weekend, I was really thinking about the number of trucks on the road... compared to passenger vehicles, I can only image how much more fuel overall is used to power trucks than cars... There is really no easy way to reduce that a whole lot, is there? biofuels?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
consider the majority of flights are commuter flights that are less than 4 hrs ... in many instances - a high-speed rail network would handle that much more efficiently ... considering trains in europe have been traveling at close to 300 km/h ... it would render all those flights useless ... especially in the northeast corridor of the states - it would be way more efficient especially considering the time it takes to get to airports and check in these days ...
there are some biofuels in the works but the only one that is worth exploring right now is algae but is still a few years away from commercial viability ... electric is the way to go ... the key is that we need to generate that electricity from renewables and not dirty fuels ... and as i've been saying historically, no new energy policy can be established without a focus on conservation ... because of subsidies and what not - people think energy is cheap when in fact it is not ... we waste it like it's an unlimited source - we need to be smarter about that ...
the person who provided that footage,
is the same guy who made this:
I Know What I Saw
Just saying.
Biofuels are some what of a joke.
They are a piss poor use of agricultural land,
and you are, essentially, BURNING top soil.
That is, even if you are using the "waste" portion of a crop ... the stalk, or whatever ... that is biomass that is much needed BACK IN THE SOIL.
Burning it sounds idiotic in this context.
Of course, that's just my opinion, as somewhat of a hobbyist farmer\gardener.
This BP spill is bad. Its tragic.
but it's nothing out of the ordinary as far as oil spills globally are concerned,
and it is certainly not the end of the world.
It is one heck of a joke that BP has yet to even come CLOSE to containment of the well head though.
Just pathetic.
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Are you fucking high?
Drifting once again proves he has no idea what he is talking about...... Nothing out of the ordinary. Yeah we drill at 5000 feet everywhere! :roll:
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No insults or personal comments...just stick to the topic.
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I also think the already sizeable dead-zone in the gulf is about to become monstrous.
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Ignoring the inane,
i want to know WHAT, in specific, is so different about this event?
Maybe i AM completely off base, but i have seen and read (and heard, ad naseum, on talk radio) charts indicating that the SIZE of this spill is a FRACTION of total global spills, and even a SMALL SPILL BY COMPARISON with other spills in history.
I'm not sucking corporate cock for BP, i'm just saying that from what I have seen, this is no worse -- BY VOLUME -- than many other spills.
What, SPECIFICALLY, makes this one so much worse?
You don't have to call me a fuck-tard,
just give me a well reasoned response.
sheesh.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Use this link for the story above : http://tinyurl.com/23hyyzz
First of all they won't even let anyone check to see what the actual flow is by sticking something into the leak. It's all estimates. They have been from 1,000 barrels a day in the beginning to some now saying it could be 100,000. If we just picked the middle point I believe that easily passes the famous Exxon spill. That was a surface spill though of somewhat processed oil. What we have here is shooting right into the heart of the ocean, fucking everything up as it reaches the surface, shooting oil and god knows what else into the ocean. Then we got BP dumping this corexit shit all over the place. Furthermore it couldn't be in a more worse spot when thinking about the weather. Hurricanes and tropical storms are going to be picking this shit up and dumping it all over the place.
Some believe that that crazy rig was looking for this pie in the sky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
Who knows if that stuff exists but I'm sure oil companies like BP would like to find it, might explain why they kept pushing it after warnings. Check out this jem of a story
http://adropofrain.net/2010/05/rumor-sc ... e-blowout/
There are other mainstream media sites that site BP being warned as well.
You know that well that Russia nuked? There is speculation that it was an aboigenic oil source.
Then there is the cherry on top with kenneth feinberg handling the BP "shut up money".
I don't see how these aren't a bunch of warning signs to you Drifting. Lot more going on here than some run of the mill right in line with history and expectations spill. Sorry for the response above. I'm pissed off lately.
http://www.businessinsider.com/warning- ... ead-2010-6
Small link for above : http://tinyurl.com/23jz2am
And we got BP dumping a special kind of dispersant right into the heart of the ocean during the start of hurricane season, yeah!
just because there have been larger spills doesn't make this a small spill ... in fact, relative to all oil spills, it is extremely large ...
what ultimately makes this spill horrific is that it was unnecessary but borne simply from corporate greed ... we need to revisit many things that are tied to this spill ...
as for biofuels ... algae is the one source worth exploring right now ...
this needs to be done extremely slowly and carefully. hopefully the supply lasts as long as it takes, though. not to mention the survival of the world itself.
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it is only entrenched so much because of the power the industry has ... we have not needed oil as much as we have for a long time ... the bottom line is if we continue the way we are ... the gap between those who have and those who don't will widen to the point where there will be mass poverty and diminishing resources ... our current system is unsustainable and change has to be made ... you can peel your band aid off slowly but i prefer to rip it up ...
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well played!! ... hahaha ... although my example technically refers to the point in time when the band aid is no longer required ...
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how would it be catastrophic? ... do you believe that the world's key indicator of health is oil consumption? ... the day we stopped using oil is the day we start living smarter ... sure, even if stock markets and such crashed - why the cuss are we living in a world where the stock market (a virtual place where people trade virtual dollars) is at the heart of our existence!?? ... makes absolutely no sense ... well, to me at least ...
not to mention this spill is something like 40%methane were normally oil fields are only around 5%methane
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it doesn't have to be all or none, an actual effort would be nice. instead of working to lessen our dependence on oil we try to lessen our 'foreign dependence' of it. they still receive tens of billions in corporate welfare while making more than a billion every 3 months. we need to start actually investing in alternatives, not these 1/2 assed steps that accomplish little to nothing
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'