Black Crowes double acoustic album, tour, hiatus, **RETURN**

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    pjl44 said:
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
    Noel?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    Sounds like BS. But i'm not in the know of the band. But sounds like a bad excuse when being caught being a greedy asshole.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
    Noel?

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    pjl44 said:
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
    that happened? 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited November 2019
    willbarclay said:Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    Exactly, from my POV, Gorman seems like dickhead 1b to Chris and while he doesn’t make like he’s a saint, he does whitewash and gloss over his part in it. And he wants to be invited back so much. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pjl44 said:
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
    that happened? 
    There are some great stories in his book
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    I'm going to have to pick that up. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    edited November 2019
    DewieCox said:
    willbarclay said:Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    Exactly, from my POV, Gorman seems like dickhead 1b to Chris and while he doesn’t make like he’s a saint, he does whitewash and gloss over his part in it. And he wants to be invited back so much. 
    does he really? when they announced the reunion his twitter just said "NOPE". LOL
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pjl44 said:
    willbarclay said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know why, but I listened to an interview with Black Crowes drummer (who's just released a book)... and so... Chris is the asshole in the band? Wanting 75% of the loot on that last tour that didn't happen in 2015?
    Chris’s reasoning for that was so he didn’t have to do the tour. He knew it wouldn’t be approved by the band and he really just wanted to continue his other career with the CRB. He wasn’t ready to go back to the Crowes at the time.
    who really knows unless your in the guys head. 
    Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    You're saying the guy who busted into Oasis's trailer to beat the shit out of Liam Gallagher may have contributed to the dysfunction?
    that happened? 
    2. Gorman once tried to kick Liam Gallagher’s ass for slagging the Crowes onstage at Glastonbury.
    When Oasis played Glastonbury in 1995, Gorman was watching side stage after the Black Crowes’ set when he heard — or thought he heard — Liam Gallagher say to the crowd, “It’s nice to get that silly Southern shit out of the way so you can hear some real music.” Incensed, and admittedly drunk, Gorman forced his way into Oasis’ backstage trailer with a bottle of Jack Daniel’s and waited for Gallagher to come offstage. “This fucking kid is about to learn more than he ever wanted to about silly Southern shit,” Gorman writes. Cooler heads in the Crowes camp prevailed and persuaded the drummer to leave, but Gorman asked Liam about the insult six years later when the Crowes toured with Oasis. “What? No!” Gallagher said. “I thought it was a proper fucking rock band.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DewieCox said:
    willbarclay said:Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    Exactly, from my POV, Gorman seems like dickhead 1b to Chris and while he doesn’t make like he’s a saint, he does whitewash and gloss over his part in it. And he wants to be invited back so much. 
    does he really? when they announced the reunion his twitter just said "NOPE". LOL
    And from the radio interview I saw, about his book. He didn't say much about it other than "not surprised they are doing it". 

    https://youtu.be/r5aPq6e3Wow
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited November 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DewieCox said:
    willbarclay said:Steve’s book is great, but a lot of finger pointing at the brothers. He admits he had some issues but I’m sure lots of juicy details were left out to cover his own behind.
    Exactly, from my POV, Gorman seems like dickhead 1b to Chris and while he doesn’t make like he’s a saint, he does whitewash and gloss over his part in it. And he wants to be invited back so much. 
    does he really? when they announced the reunion his twitter just said "NOPE". LOL

    In every interview he’s had the chance to say that he would never take part and always stops short. His Twitter response was specific to this tour. 
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
    I don't know much about the BC, but just from what's posted above, not shutting the door to me doesn't equal he wants in. It just means he's smart enough to know that you never say never in this business. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    edited November 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
    I don't know much about the BC, but just from what's posted above, not shutting the door to me doesn't equal he wants in. It just means he's smart enough to know that you never say never in this business. 
    I would suggest you read the book and then come back to me on this. 
    youll realize where I’m coming from. Based on his attitude in the book and If he can’t fully say no now without these other little “not likely” comments then there is something there.
    He also states how important the 2015 plan to tour was for him and as a way of thanking the loyal fans. That’s his biggest regret out of all this. 
    Well here’s his chance to make that right. Just have to mend that fence with the Robinson brothers somehow. Maybe live nation can do that for them? Maybe it’s alresdy in the works and part of their marketing strategy?
    Come out with a big announcement that Gorman is back. After all the book hoopla I’m sure this would sell some tickets. 
    But honestly, read the book. It’s a real quick read. I tried to take the finger pointing with a grain of salt.
    Post edited by willbarclay on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
    I don't know much about the BC, but just from what's posted above, not shutting the door to me doesn't equal he wants in. It just means he's smart enough to know that you never say never in this business. 
    I would suggest you read the book and then come back to me on this. 
    youll realize where I’m coming from. Based on his attitude in the book and If he can’t fully say no now without these other little “not likely” comments then there is something there.
    He also states how important the 2015 plan to tour was for him and as a way of thanking the loyal fans. That’s his biggest regret out of all this. 
    Well here’s his chance to make that right. Just have to mend that fence with the Robinson brothers somehow. Maybe live nation can do that for them? Maybe it’s alresdy in the works and part of their marketing strategy?
    Come out with a big announcement that Gorman is back. After all the book hoopla I’m sure this would sell some tickets. 
    But honestly, read the book. It’s a real quick read. I tried to take the finger pointing with a grain of salt.
    fair enough. I've been looking for another music book to read, so this one might be the next. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
    I don't know much about the BC, but just from what's posted above, not shutting the door to me doesn't equal he wants in. It just means he's smart enough to know that you never say never in this business. 
    I would suggest you read the book and then come back to me on this. 
    youll realize where I’m coming from. Based on his attitude in the book and If he can’t fully say no now without these other little “not likely” comments then there is something there.
    He also states how important the 2015 plan to tour was for him and as a way of thanking the loyal fans. That’s his biggest regret out of all this. 
    Well here’s his chance to make that right. Just have to mend that fence with the Robinson brothers somehow. Maybe live nation can do that for them? Maybe it’s alresdy in the works and part of their marketing strategy?
    Come out with a big announcement that Gorman is back. After all the book hoopla I’m sure this would sell some tickets. 
    But honestly, read the book. It’s a real quick read. I tried to take the finger pointing with a grain of salt.
    fair enough. I've been looking for another music book to read, so this one might be the next. 

    Im actually planning on reading it over again soon. See if I take anything more away from it.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, Gorman wants back. No doubt. 
    He’s always saying things like ...
    “ i don’t see it happening”
    “I can’t imagine it, and I have a pretty wild imagination”

    that to me is not closing the door completely shut. I know other interviews he’s come out and said no way, but when he says stuff like the above it speaks to me.
    Yeah, I agree. When you look at all the reasons he outlines for coming back in 2005, they pretty much all apply here. Even now he can't stop talking about it.

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