carlin got it right
Pepe Silvia
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don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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Carlin got a lot of things right. His social and political commentary was always bang on, and presented in a manner as thought provoking as it was hilarious. That clip was the perfect example...How often is the hypocrisy of US histpry, or the militarized nature of the national psyche spoken about in the mainstream? ...and how many people have viewed that clip over the years, who may not have given a second thought to the version of history they've been taught? He exposed a lot of people who didnt otherwise have much interest in his topics, to a new way of seeing themselves and their country. . I think people underestimate the importance of a guy like Carlin...he is truely missed.0
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Drowned Out wrote:Carlin got a lot of things right. His social and political commentary was always bang on, and presented in a manner as thought provoking as it was hilarious. That clip was the perfect example...How often is the hypocrisy of US histpry, or the militarized nature of the national psyche spoken about in the mainstream? ...and how many people have viewed that clip over the years, who may not have given a second thought to the version of history they've been taught? He exposed a lot of people who didnt otherwise have much interest in his topics, to a new way of seeing themselves and their country. . I think people underestimate the importance of a guy like Carlin...he is truely missed.
This is so true!He who forgets will be destined to remember.
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Great video. Love carlin.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
carlin was the man. he predicted the 2nd gulf war before 9/11 even happened in his book brain droppings. he had a bit about dick (cheney) and colin (powell) the architects of the first gulf war going back for seconds. he was an amazing social commentator, entertainer, and comedian....i really miss carlin and lament the state of stand up comedy as social commentary when today the biggest comedy draws are hacks like dane cook and carlos mencia...."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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he spoke the truth
wouldn't it be nice to truly celebrate a nation on this day
that helps the world be a better place for our future generations?
or are we celebrating a militaristic force that has stolen land, committed genocide, and been at war for most of it's existence
all for moneyThe whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
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WORCESTER 10-15-13
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**CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **0
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He was a fantastic commentator.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0
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carlin is geniusfor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce0 -
freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
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Godfather. wrote:freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
Godfather.
if you see something wrong with your country there is nothing wrong with saying so. what about civil rights? should they have stopped 'whining and moved forward'? what about viet nam? should no one have protested that war and just moved on?
however, i think the scam that is the 2 party system has intentionally polarized the majority of our country to hinder any real progress. instead of working together and moving forward we separate into 2 teams and automatically dismiss the other. we won't move forward because we are too busy saying something is so wrong when the other team does it and finding ways to rationalize it when it's their team. they just take turns bitching or defending certain actions depending on if they are the ones doing it.
what you seem to be wanting is everyone to just go along with whatever the state says and does and just accept it. maybe i just misread your post....
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" - Benjamin Franklin
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - Thomas Jefferson
it looks like the founding fathers disagree with youdon't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'0 -
Right....godfather, you've managed to combine two very dangerous attitudes in one post: wishing everyone would stop complaing about their country, under the guise of 'patriotism', and telling people to ignore history....yikes.Pepe Silvia wrote:what you seem to be wanting is everyone to just go along with whatever the state says and does and just accept it. maybe i just misread your post....0 -
no not really, I'm just fed up with so many people complaining or taking jabs at our country and it's history
sometime we don't know how good we have it here in America,in a short few hundred years this country has made great progress and maybe more than countries that have been around for thousands of years...ya think maybe ?
I also think people lose their focus, they use small parts of history to belittle this country or to use it falsely or only half knowingly to back a statement when history is a little more detailed and even more to it than they know.
We should all be proud of our country and the advancements we as a people have made here and learn from the mistakes and the good things the people before us went through and achieved.
as long as we have the freedom to speak our own minds there will always be something to make better with each of our own ideas, just remember why we have that freedom and how we achieved it it wasn't just given to us ..this country and it's thinkers and the men and women that fought for it earned it for us.
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Drowned Out wrote:
Right....godfather, you've managed to combine two very dangerous attitudes in one post: wishing everyone would stop complaing about their country, under the guise of 'patriotism', and telling people to ignore history....yikes.Pepe Silvia wrote:what you seem to be wanting is everyone to just go along with whatever the state says and does and just accept it. maybe i just misread your post....
I have never said ignore history...but if people are going to use it to make a statement I think they should know the whole truth of that history before they use bits and pieces of it.
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Pepe Silvia wrote:Godfather. wrote:freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
Godfather.
if you see something wrong with your country there is nothing wrong with saying so. what about civil rights? should they have stopped 'whining and moved forward'? what about viet nam? should no one have protested that war and just moved on?
however, i think the scam that is the 2 party system has intentionally polarized the majority of our country to hinder any real progress. instead of working together and moving forward we separate into 2 teams and automatically dismiss the other. we won't move forward because we are too busy saying something is so wrong when the other team does it and finding ways to rationalize it when it's their team. they just take turns bitching or defending certain actions depending on if they are the ones doing it.
what you seem to be wanting is everyone to just go along with whatever the state says and does and just accept it. maybe i just misread your post....
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" - Benjamin Franklin
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - Thomas Jefferson
it looks like the founding fathers disagree with you
kinda odd coming from you...the founding fathers thing.
Godfather.0 -
Godfather. wrote:no not really, I'm just fed up with so many people complaining or taking jabs at our country and it's history
sometime we don't know how good we have it here in America,in a short few hundred years this country has made great progress and maybe more than countries that have been around for thousands of years...ya think maybe ?
I also think people lose their focus, they use small parts of history to belittle this country or to use it falsely or only half knowingly to back a statement when history is a little more detailed and even more to it than they know.
We should all be proud of our country and the advancements we as a people have made here and learn from the mistakes and the good things the people before us went through and achieved.
as long as we have the freedom to speak our own minds there will always be something to make better with each of our own ideas, just remember why we have that freedom and how we achieved it it wasn't just given to us ..this country and it's thinkers and the men and women that fought for it earned it for us.
Godfather.
Let's play a game. I will name five awesome things to be proud of the the good ole U.S.A. but first you have to name and comment on one bad thing done by the U.S. government or its agents."First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
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Godfather. wrote:freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
Godfather.
Yeah!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyFeFhUTmI&playnext_from=TL&videos=2LdeYShXfHI0 -
"Whining and complaining" as you call is done to observe and improve the society and world around us. That is all Carlin ever did. Complaining about, as you put it, complainers, is pretty silly. It's all about recognition, observation and understanding to grow from experience. And if you don't appreciate what some legitimate gripes, complaints and observations are, perhaps you're just protecting the status quo or like many in our nation, wave the flag as their form of being a good citizen a patriot - which is blind, dumb and the opposite of what is good for our nation. We have far too much comfort, with far too little attention and involvement, so excuse me if I chuckle at your comments about people.Godfather. wrote:no not really, I'm just fed up with so many people complaining or taking jabs at our country and it's history
sometime we don't know how good we have it here in America,in a short few hundred years this country has made great progress and maybe more than countries that have been around for thousands of years...ya think maybe ?
I also think people lose their focus, they use small parts of history to belittle this country or to use it falsely or only half knowingly to back a statement when history is a little more detailed and even more to it than they know.
We should all be proud of our country and the advancements we as a people have made here and learn from the mistakes and the good things the people before us went through and achieved.
as long as we have the freedom to speak our own minds there will always be something to make better with each of our own ideas, just remember why we have that freedom and how we achieved it it wasn't just given to us ..this country and it's thinkers and the men and women that fought for it earned it for us.
Godfather.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
very niceSmellyman wrote:Godfather. wrote:freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
Godfather.
Yeah!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyFeFhUTmI&playnext_from=TL&videos=2LdeYShXfHIfor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce0 -
markin ball wrote:Godfather. wrote:no not really, I'm just fed up with so many people complaining or taking jabs at our country and it's history
sometime we don't know how good we have it here in America,in a short few hundred years this country has made great progress and maybe more than countries that have been around for thousands of years...ya think maybe ?
I also think people lose their focus, they use small parts of history to belittle this country or to use it falsely or only half knowingly to back a statement when history is a little more detailed and even more to it than they know.
We should all be proud of our country and the advancements we as a people have made here and learn from the mistakes and the good things the people before us went through and achieved.
as long as we have the freedom to speak our own minds there will always be something to make better with each of our own ideas, just remember why we have that freedom and how we achieved it it wasn't just given to us ..this country and it's thinkers and the men and women that fought for it earned it for us.
Godfather.
Let's play a game. I will name five awesome things to be proud of the the good ole U.S.A. but first you have to name and comment on one bad thing done by the U.S. government or its agents.
why ?
Godfather.0 -
Godfather. wrote:Pepe Silvia wrote:Godfather. wrote:freedom is not free and who was carlin to complain,seems he did pretty well for himself in this country.
I grew up listening to carlin off and on cause my family liked him so much and so did I, I'm just getting a little tired of a bunch of whinners complaining about our country and saying how bad our founding fathers were and this or that is so bad,while I agree good change is always needed thats how we/our country continues to improve
for our American citizens but really lets stop the whinning about the past and move forward.
Godfather.
if you see something wrong with your country there is nothing wrong with saying so. what about civil rights? should they have stopped 'whining and moved forward'? what about viet nam? should no one have protested that war and just moved on?
however, i think the scam that is the 2 party system has intentionally polarized the majority of our country to hinder any real progress. instead of working together and moving forward we separate into 2 teams and automatically dismiss the other. we won't move forward because we are too busy saying something is so wrong when the other team does it and finding ways to rationalize it when it's their team. they just take turns bitching or defending certain actions depending on if they are the ones doing it.
what you seem to be wanting is everyone to just go along with whatever the state says and does and just accept it. maybe i just misread your post....
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority" - Benjamin Franklin
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - Thomas Jefferson
it looks like the founding fathers disagree with you
kinda odd coming from you...the founding fathers thing.
Godfather.
how so?don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'0
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