238 presidential scholars on Dubya
Pepe Silvia
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as if we didn't already know this was the case.....
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0701/nation ... t-history/
238 presidential scholars: Bush worst president of modern era, fifth worst in US history
It's one thing for a coterie of liberals at a late-night Washington soirée to say that George W. Bush was the worst president in their lifetimes.
It's another thing when the same is said by the nation's 238 leading presidential scholars, who have been polled annually for the last 28 years.
President Bush ranked worst among modern presidents -- and the fifth worst in history, according to the poll by the Siena Research Institute. Ranking first? President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who led the country from 1933 until his death in 1945.
President Roosevelt served four terms, the longest of any president in history. US presidents became limited to two terms after US states ratified the 22nd Amendment to the US constitution in 1951.
President Barack Obama, who hasn't yet served a full term, rated 15th.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0701/nation ... t-history/
238 presidential scholars: Bush worst president of modern era, fifth worst in US history
It's one thing for a coterie of liberals at a late-night Washington soirée to say that George W. Bush was the worst president in their lifetimes.
It's another thing when the same is said by the nation's 238 leading presidential scholars, who have been polled annually for the last 28 years.
President Bush ranked worst among modern presidents -- and the fifth worst in history, according to the poll by the Siena Research Institute. Ranking first? President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who led the country from 1933 until his death in 1945.
President Roosevelt served four terms, the longest of any president in history. US presidents became limited to two terms after US states ratified the 22nd Amendment to the US constitution in 1951.
President Barack Obama, who hasn't yet served a full term, rated 15th.
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what has Obama done for us debate in this thread
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i am far from an obama defender but what you said is pretty misleading. the debt DID increase a lot but that's mostly because dubya didn't count the cost of the wars into the deficit, which it should be, and obama included it, so of course the deficit skyrocketed after having all that wasted $ added into it (which he is just continuing including the bombing of pakistan which displaced millions before winter).
also, taxes are actually lower for the majority of americans under obama. but you'll get no argument from me about 'man up and do something!' like that bs health care reform that is only forcing everyone to buy health insurance saying "well, it's better than nothing! it can always be changed later!" but honestly, when will they change it? they will say give it a few years to see how it works first. they never intended to give us a public option, obama included, just like he never intended to renegotiate NAFTA or do anything about israel's illegal expansion....it's all pandering to his team's base and most of them ate it up.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
how can you say this? 95% of all americans paid less in taxes last year. there was a pretty landmark study with a survey that was posted on here 2 or 3 months ago and even the teabaggers, who have no clue about anything, admitted they paid less in taxes last year..
and i believe obama's definition of "rich" is anyone making over $250,000, so if you are one of the 5% that makes over that good for you and i'm sorry, but it is time for you and the rest of the rich to pay your share of taxes like the rest of us.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Wasn't that partly due to the Bush tax cuts that are set to expire in 2011? I didn't say current taxes I said get ready for tax increases that will be coming down the pike real soon. You can't possibly find enough revenue by taxing that 5% to pay for all of this shit. We really need some sanity in Govt. I am pissed a W and the Repubs as well. Thye spent huge amounts of money definely the the "fiscal conservative party" This is why we need term limits in DC. These friggin people who die while in office due to old age is wrong 50 yrs some of them.
It's funny how libs like to try and re write history. :roll:
Oh yeah and all you Obama drones, who think your taxes aren't going to go up,and you think it's only going to be the rich thats going to see an increase You ain't seen nothin yet..
Just wait, when the clock strikes 12:01am on jan 1st 2011.
Damn when are some of you going to wake the Hell up ???? :?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch ... get-a.html
The article reports projected tax increases for individuals making over $250K...just like he has said all along.
Did I miss something? A common tactic for those that have no solid basis for an argument is to claim knoweledge of supposed future events as rationale for their position. You may be right, but let's wait and see before we take your word for it.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
uhhh ... the poll listed FDR as the WORST president ever ... what is your point!??
Not exactly a list you want to be first on...
ok lets get hooked on phonics
if bush is the worst president ever
and fdr is first
i don't think they mean fdr is the worst president ever
even though he should not be near the top of that list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Deceit
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
"hooked on phonics, worked for me!"
but did you know that about pearl harbor?
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
my bad ... i read the title and the text of the post and thought the list was in descending order starting from the worst ... so, when they listed bush as fifth - i assumed first was referring to the worst president ever ...
Steny Hoyer has already floated the get ready for middle class tax hikes balloon. Get ready b/c it is coming. Maybe we can just print more monyer Will be nice come November when they are all thrown out of power and grid lock can retunr to DC.