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Why is Eddie playing at such small venues?

BigBigWavesBigBigWaves NH Posts: 19
edited July 2008 in The Porch
I know this show wouldn't work in a big arena, but how about venues that hold five to seven thousand. These venues that hold two thousand are just not big enough for the high demand. I just don't get it. Take Boston for example. Instead of the Opera House, 2,500 seats, why not the Orpheum and 5,000 seats?
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Because he wants to play the smallest, most intimate venues he can, I suppose. Sometimes it's not about being able to cram in ever person who wants to see the show.

    Sometimes, folks just get left out of things, and them's the breaks.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,160
    Considering he won't let us bring camera phones it to the joints, who knows.
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  • happy2beherehappy2behere Posts: 148
    to maintain intimacy.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Jason P wrote:
    Considering he won't let us bring camera phones it to the joints, who knows.

    What the hell does this mean? What does one have to do with the other?

    And do you really have to ask why Ed wouldn't want people taking pictures during the entire show? YouTube some Vic performances and you'll see.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,730
    BigBigWaves wrote:
    I know this show wouldn't work in a big arena, but how about venues that hold five to seven thousand. These venues that hold two thousand are just not big enough for the high demand. I just don't get it. Take Boston for example. Instead of the Opera House, 2,500 seats, why not the Orpheum and 5,000 seats?

    2 things on this.

    First the Orpheum holds 5,000 - I think it might be less then 3,000.

    I also believe the Orpheum doesn't have concerts in June-August since there is no AC. I saw the stones there about 6-7 years ago on one of those hot September days and the place was a sauna......

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,226
    Orpheum seating is approximately 2,800...essentially same size as Opera house, in deplorable condition, and as Indifference mentioned, no AC.

    Maybe he could have considered BoA Pavilion, but I doubt he'd sell out 2 nights there, so promoters would have only set up for a single night and a similar number of tix would have been available as 2 at the Opera House.
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  • shareshare Posts: 551
    To piss people off?

    He really goes out of his way to alienate fans.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,226
    Indifference wrote:
    I saw the stones there about 6-7 years ago on one of those hot September days and the place was a sauna......
    And the upper concession stand ran out of bottled water. One hot friggin night...but a damn great show.

    I actually saw a hotter (temperature wise)show there many years ago in July, before they basically started shuttering the place in summer. Luckily it was Penn and Teller and we could stay seated and fairly motionless, and I still sweated my ass off.
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  • DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
    Poncier wrote:
    Orpheum seating is approximately 2,800...essentially same size as Opera house, in deplorable condition, and as Indifference mentioned, no AC.

    Maybe he could have considered BoA Pavilion, but I doubt he'd sell out 2 nights there, so promoters would have only set up for a single night and a similar number of tix would have been available as 2 at the Opera House.



    Plus you lose the intamacy factor at Harbor Lights ;)
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  • DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
    PEPPER wrote:
    Because seeing one guy strum away on an acoustic guitar in a huge stadium is stupid...just calling it like it is...


    Although, I will say.... seeing him sound check Immortality on the Italy DvD in the empty stadium was cool!
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    These are very special shows. They are unlike anything Eddie or the band has ever done, and this may not happen again for a very long time.

    Just look at the stage set up for the west coast solo shows...It's almost set up like someone's basement...These are intimate performances and very special ones at that.

    I can't help but think that Eddie is keeping this low key and intimate for a reason; perhaps there will be a future release of these performances down the road either on DVD or a CD.

    Demand for these shows is obviously going to be greater than the average show because there are only a select few shows being played in very select locations this tour.

    For now...we're just going to have to accept the fact that this isn't your regular Eddie or Pearl Jam type tour. There are alot of us going for the same piece of pie here and there is a good chance that there will be many of us that come out on the losing end.

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  • mattxpikemattxpike Posts: 53
    this is a beautiful room with amazing acoustics. its going to be amazing seeing Ed in this environment
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  • DariusDarius Posts: 89
    originally posted by PEPPER - Because seeing one guy strum away on an acoustic guitar in a huge stadium is stupid..

    tell that to Dylan
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  • shareshare Posts: 551
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    These are very special shows. They are unlike anything Eddie or the band has ever done, and this may not happen again for a very long time.

    Just look at the stage set up for the west coast solo shows...It's almost set up like someone's basement...These are intimate performances and very special ones at that.

    I can't help but think that Eddie is keeping this low key and intimate for a reason; perhaps there will be a future release of these performances down the road either on DVD or a CD.

    Demand for these shows is obviously going to be greater than the average show because there are only a select few shows being played in very select locations this tour.

    For now...we're just going to have to accept the fact that this isn't your regular Eddie or Pearl Jam type tour. There are alot of us going for the same piece of pie here and there is a good chance that there will be many of us that come out on the losing end.

    Later



    .


    mmmmm,,,pie.........


    I couldn't agree more. well said.
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  • augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    BigBigWaves wrote:
    I know this show wouldn't work in a big arena, but how about venues that hold five to seven thousand. These venues that hold two thousand are just not big enough for the high demand. I just don't get it. Take Boston for example. Instead of the Opera House, 2,500 seats, why not the Orpheum and 5,000 seats?

    my guess is that every venue on this tour does not allow drinks into the performance room...there's 1 good reason for not booking the larger venues ;)
  • djenksdjenks Posts: 15
    I've never been to the boston opera house, so I'm not sure what the seating is like. Have two singles for the show for me and a friend. Any thoughts on the better place to sit: Orchestra row W or Mezz left center row K... I would think the Mezz, right?
  • bettermanofthehourbettermanofthehour Posts: 355
    PEPPER wrote:
    Because seeing one guy strum away on an acoustic guitar in a huge stadium is stupid...just calling it like it is...or there may have been scheduling conflicts...or Eddie Vedder secretly hates all of us

    jack johnson pulls it off quite well...and i believe that we all have seen eddie do it a song or two here and there.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,226
    djenks wrote:
    I've never been to the boston opera house, so I'm not sure what the seating is like. Have two singles for the show for me and a friend. Any thoughts on the better place to sit: Orchestra row W or Mezz left center row K... I would think the Mezz, right?
    I think the view would be better from the Mezz rather than the way back of the Orch.
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  • UKpearljammerUKpearljammer Bath, UK Posts: 910
    Probably because he's so used to playing huge venues with Pearl Jam and wants to make these shows more intimate and organic. Maybe next time he'll take it a step up but being his first solo tour I guess he just wants to keep it intimate.
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  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Definitely the Mezzanine. The Opera House is a beautiful venue and, even though there aren't really bad seats, the view would be better from the Mezz. I actually think some of the best seats in the house there are in the dress circle. You are pretty much front row of the balcony area and have a very close, excellent view of the stage.

    djenks wrote:
    I've never been to the boston opera house, so I'm not sure what the seating is like. Have two singles for the show for me and a friend. Any thoughts on the better place to sit: Orchestra row W or Mezz left center row K... I would think the Mezz, right?
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    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
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    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
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  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    I also think that Eddie was looking for venue that have great acoustics. The Orpheum seems to be hit or miss for sound (but KOL last September was fantastic). It seems that was a big criteria for venue selection. Choosing intimate venues with great sound. Believe me, you won't be dissapointed with the Opera House in Boston!
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    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    jervin007 wrote:
    I actually think some of the best seats in the house there are in the dress circle. You are pretty much front row of the balcony area and have a very close, excellent view of the stage.


    SWEET!! i have never been to the opera house but i have a dress circle seat for night I !!
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Crazy Breed wrote:
    SWEET!! i have never been to the opera house but i have a dress circle seat for night I !!


    Nice! I saw Death Cab there from the Dress Circle and loved it! I am pretty sure there are only about 4-6 rows in the dress circle. Plus, the seats (as I am sure they are all through the Opera House) are super comfortable. Great for what I understand will be a sit down show. Your view will great and the sound is fantastic up there as well. Congrats!
    PJ:
    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    jervin007 wrote:
    Nice! I saw Death Cab there from the Dress Circle and loved it! I am pretty sure there are only about 4-6 rows in the dress circle. Plus, the seats (as I am sure they are all through the Opera House) are super comfortable. Great for what I understand will be a sit down show. Your view will great and the sound is fantastic up there as well. Congrats!


    thanks man! you just made me long for Aug 1st even more :D

    how's the 420 situation @ the opera house?people fire up in there or no?being such a small place i'm thinking it's a no.(but i had to ask)
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    how's the 420 situation @ the opera house?people fire up in there or no?being such a small place i'm thinking it's a no.(but i had to ask)[/quote]

    Yeah, that probably won't happen. Seems pretty strict with security. You can bring drinks to your seat though, which is better than half the shows at the Orpheum. Best bet, prepare some baked good to cure that fix.
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    2003 Mansfield: July 2
    2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
    2005 Montreal: Sept 15
    2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
    2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
    2010 Boston: May 17
    2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
    2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7

    EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
  • InMyTree4InMyTree4 Posts: 1,239
    id rather see him at the opera house than the orpheum any day im not a huge fan of the orpheum as a venue
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  • ZanneZanne Posts: 899
    Sears Centre, Hoffman Estates, IL

    Holds about 11,000 people.. cost to rent the venue for one night including all their union folks is maximum 160,000.00. A true bonus is that they do their own ticketing, not TM/Live Nation, etc...

    I'd love to see a fan club only PJ show there. I bet Ed could fill it by himself no problem, especially considering he filled 2 nights at a 4k venue in the blink of an eye. Don't get me wrong, I love the little venues, but I feel bad when people who really want to go are getting shut out by scalpers or just plain limited availability.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,160
    I hope no one pees on me at the smaller venues.
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  • ZanneZanne Posts: 899
    Jason P wrote:
    I hope no one pees on me at the smaller venues.


    But it would be ok at the bigger ones? =)
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    intimate show = intimate venues



    the kind of show ed is playing, it NEEDS a small venue. period. i am so thankful he is playing such beautiful and small places. sure, it limits ticket availability, but so it goes...
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