Back From Yellowstone!

chadwick

eyedclaar wrote:

Alright, I wrestled 5 bears. The mother griz hurt my back just a bit, but that was right before I tapped her out with an ankle lock. Also, did you know they let pussies bring firearms into the park now? What a bunch of bullshit. Now I have to see dumbass hicks on the trail who would have never had the stones to go backpacking in the park before. Boo!

knives, sure.
what kinda guns do you think these folks are packing?
handguns? a lot of these im sure of it.
the minute you see someone prick with a high power rifle outfitted with a mega scope you should beat them with a boulder and a surly mountain lion.

i guess bear spray works, yes/no? (good idea or no) (boxing grizzlies is how i do it...)
i know elk shit works.
ever throw elk shit at a grizzly?
if you haven't i must tell you
it is exhilarating

pandora

eyedclaar wrote:

pandora wrote:

Welcome Home
I would love to see an owl, I have yet in the wild just heard them. We have the common species that passes through and will stay a few days, love the hoots at night. Very comforting.
Crazy about the guns, how did that happened?

I have seen other owl species, just never the great grey. Really rare in my neck of the woods. I was surprised by its size and casual attitude. I stood within about 20 feet of it and it didn't care at all. They are totally silent when they fly, like ghosts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekrfclBAjEY
Wow, breathtakingly beautiful

chadwick

eyedclaar wrote:

HeartShapedBox wrote:

Welcome back!!! Did you get any of the bear wrestling on tape?

I didn't. But I wish I would have filmed this huge blonde bear and her cub when they were about 40 feet away and charging right at our truck (she was trying to find an escape through the line of cars). This was before we hit the trail. I felt really sorry for her, but that was an impressive site.

dude, that is terrible.
poor bears.

humans are complete bullshit.
thank god i am an elk.

during rut i have 43 cow hairy elk women at my none finger tips.
my roger is so bloody and dragging the ground it is incredible.
all i do is eat, fight, and F.
live is fantastic.

stupid people.

chadwick

dcfaithful wrote:

Couldn't agree more. This is just going to give a big chunk of dumb-asses who like you said get themselves into dangerous situations an excuse to blast away at these wild animals.

NPS FAIL

you are 100%.
big game trophy hunters should be eliminated off the face of the planet.
shoot a bear and mount it on your wall?
you should be beat to within 1/16 inch of your stupid life.

chadwick

eyedclaar wrote:

mikalina wrote:

Welcome back.... I'm glad you had a wonderful - adventure. :thumbup:

Thank you. It was fun. Has anyone seen a great grey owl in person? They're huge! One hung out with us at our last stop and we watched it hunt ground squirrels. It didn't mind us at all. Freakin' awesome.

owls are like my favorite thing in the entire world.

eyedclaar

chadwick wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

Alright, I wrestled 5 bears. The mother griz hurt my back just a bit, but that was right before I tapped her out with an ankle lock. Also, did you know they let pussies bring firearms into the park now? What a bunch of bullshit. Now I have to see dumbass hicks on the trail who would have never had the stones to go backpacking in the park before. Boo!

knives, sure.
what kinda guns do you think these folks are packing?
handguns? a lot of these im sure of it.
the minute you see someone prick with a high power rifle outfitted with a mega scope you should beat them with a boulder and a surly mountain lion.

i guess bear spray works, yes/no? (good idea or no) (boxing grizzlies is how i do it...)
i know elk shit works.
ever throw elk shit at a grizzly?
if you haven't i must tell you
it is exhilarating

Hand guns. Everyone thinks they are Dirty Harry. Gonna shoot a griz! Fuck you, douchebags. If you can't handle it, stay the fuck in your cars and leave the back trails to those of us who can. Bear spray works just fine... at really close range.

norm

Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

Dissidentman

norm wrote:

Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

I think it was Pooh.

Jason P

If anyone thinks a loaded handgun is going to protect them from a wild animal, they are ignorant. I was once ignorant. The first time I did a solo backpack trip in Washington, I took my .40 cal with me. After the trip, I realized it was just extra weight and I likely would not be able to react fast enough or have enough stopping power to save myself from a moose/elk/bear/cougar attack. All it did was provide a false sense of security.

So I instead learned how to interact with nature in ways that will significantly reduce my impact and chance for violent encounters. Proper storage of food. Clean campsites. Understanding the time of day when predators are most active. Respecting wildlife from a distance.

My only exception is when I'm in grizzly country. I then keep pepper spray on my belt when in the backcountry.

eyedclaar

Jason P wrote:

If anyone thinks a loaded handgun is going to protect them from a wild animal, they are ignorant. I was once ignorant. The first time I did a solo backpack trip in Washington, I took my .40 cal with me. After the trip, I realized it was just extra weight and I likely would not be able to react fast enough or have enough stopping power to save myself from a moose/elk/bear/cougar attack. All it did was provide a false sense of security.

So I instead learned how to interact with nature in ways that will significantly reduce my impact and chance for violent encounters. Proper storage of food. Clean campsites. Understanding the time of day when predators are most active. Respecting wildlife from a distance.

My only exception is when I'm in grizzly country. I then keep pepper spray on my belt when in the backcountry.

Outside of the national parks, I am usually armed, but that is because I tend to be rather anthrophobic, not because I am worried about animals. Like you said, once you know how to act in their territory, you should have very little to fear. However, now that other people are bringing guns to the parks, it makes me want to bring a gun to the park. The only animal I worry about walks on two legs. I tend to leave the trails and do a bit of bush-whacking. So, now I get to wonder if some dispshit is going to have his gun drawn on me when he hears me moving around in the brush. Just a bad idea all around. I too carry pepper spray in griz country. Nothing like attempting to mace a would-be mugger that stands eight feet tall and weighs 1,000 pounds.

eyedclaar

Dissidentman wrote:

norm wrote:

Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

I think it was Pooh.

Pooh went soft about the time he started wearing people clothes and hanging with that scrawny Christopher Robin. I could wipe Pooh off the face of the planet with one hand...

eyedclaar

Here is my next backpacking trip for the 4th of July - The American Alps. Better dust off the ol' ice-axe.

Dissidentman

eyedclaar wrote:

Dissidentman wrote:

norm wrote:

Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

I think it was Pooh.

Pooh went soft about the time he started wearing people clothes and hanging with that scrawny Christopher Robin. I could wipe Pooh off the face of the planet with one hand...

"Soft Pooh" makes me giggle.

chadwick

eyedclaar wrote:

Hand guns. Everyone thinks they are Dirty Harry. Gonna shoot a griz! Fuck you, douchebags. If you can't handle it, stay the fuck in your cars and leave the back trails to those of us who can. Bear spray works just fine... at really close range.

right...
handguns.
people are terrible.

i vote we hunt rapists and cold blooded killers in a similar fashion as that of a bear or mountain lion.
sheer stealth like maneuvering, stalking through bush, and finally...pounce... living throat extinguished

taking guns into a national park is horse shit.

some dumb asshole is going to shoot and kill a buffalo.

Jason P

eyedclaar wrote:

Outside of the national parks, I am usually armed, but that is because I tend to be rather anthrophobic, not because I am worried about animals. Like you said, once you know how to act in their territory, you should have very little to fear. However, now that other people are bringing guns to the parks, it makes me want to bring a gun to the park. The only animal I worry about walks on two legs. I tend to leave the trails and do a bit of bush-whacking. So, now I get to wonder if some dispshit is going to have his gun drawn on me when he hears me moving around in the brush. Just a bad idea all around. I too carry pepper spray in griz country. Nothing like attempting to mace a would-be mugger that stands eight feet tall and weighs 1,000 pounds.

Grizzlies are very intimidating. I've had plenty of encounters with black bears but they usually run and hide once they spot you. Grizzlies on the other hand are very unpredictable. I came within 100 yards of a mother grizzly and her two cubs a few years ago in northern Montana. All three bears stared me down for what seemed like 37 minutes but was probably only 37 seconds. After they dismissed me as a non-threat, they continued foraging for food.

Those 37 seconds were very unsettling. It felt like they were staring into my soul. I wouldn't have had a chance if she decided I was a threat to the cubs.

If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.

Dissidentman

Grizzlies ain't all that. I did this to a grizzly with a couple cans of spray paint and a Thermos, cause I was thirsty.

eyedclaar

Jason P wrote:

If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.

Here is my philosophy on that whole discussion. A bear lives every day of its life struggling to survive in the tiny fraction of what is left of its natural evironment. A hard, brutal existence that we as humans couldn't even imagine. If it crosses over into "man's territory" there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. If one doesn't behave accordingly, even in its own area, there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. Add to that the poachers and hunters that kill them even when they are in their own territory and behaving accordingly. The king of the forest is beset on all sides by the tyranny of evil men. That being said, I have to ask myself, what percentage of my life do I spend in what I consider a bear's land? Well, I spend a hell of a lot more time there than 99% of the world's human population, but still it is only a mere fraction of a percent where my life is in any kind of danger. So, me = lazy ass human living a soft life except for the rare instances when I am actually in a bear's house (not because I have to, but because I choose to) .

How can I justify compromising the life of a bear so I can enjoy a few recreational hours amongst them? I am choosing to be out there. They aren't choosing to have me there. It isn't fair for me to put their life at risk by bringing my guns simply because I am uncomfortable with the idea they might attack or kill me. They have plenty to worry about, plenty to struggle with every damn day without my selfish inclusion in their life. Especially when I know full well that if something did happen to me, the bear would pay for my choice with its life.

eyedclaar

Dissidentman wrote:

Grizzlies ain't all that. I did this to a grizzly with a couple cans of spray paint and a Thermos, cause I was thirsty.

Man, you find a grizzly hopped up on enough salmon, you can get away with just about anything.

mickeyrat

eyedclaar wrote:

Jason P wrote:

If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.

Here is my philosophy on that whole discussion. A bear lives every day of its life struggling to survive in the tiny fraction of what is left of its natural evironment. A hard, brutal existence that we as humans couldn't even imagine. If it crosses over into "man's territory" there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. If one doesn't behave accordingly, even in its own area, there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. Add to that the poachers and hunters that kill them even when they are in their own territory and behaving accordingly. The king of the forest is beset on all sides by the tyranny of evil men. That being said, I have to ask myself, what percentage of my life do I spend in what I consider a bear's land? Well, I spend a hell of a lot more time there than 99% of the world's human population, but still it is only a mere fraction of a percent where my life is in any kind of danger. So, me = lazy ass human living a soft life except for the rare instances when I am actually in a bear's house (not because I have to, but because I choose to) .

How can I justify compromising the life of a bear so I can enjoy a few recreational hours amongst them? I am choosing to be out there. They aren't choosing to have me there. It isn't fair for me to put their life at risk by bringing my guns simply because I am uncomfortable with the idea they might attack or kill me. They have plenty to worry about, plenty to struggle with every damn day without my selfish inclusion in their life. Especially when I know full well that if something did happen to me, the bear would pay for my choice with its life.

well said, Eyed, VERY well said.

eyedclaar

mickeyrat wrote:

well said, Eyed, VERY well said.

Thanks, Mickey. See, I'm not ALL just bad jokes.