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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    norm wrote:
    Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

    I think it was Pooh.


    Pooh went soft about the time he started wearing people clothes and hanging with that scrawny Christopher Robin. I could wipe Pooh off the face of the planet with one hand... :lol:
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Here is my next backpacking trip for the 4th of July - The American Alps. Better dust off the ol' ice-axe.

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  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    eyedclaar wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Did you wrestle yogi or boo boo? Did you get your picnic basket back?

    I think it was Pooh.


    Pooh went soft about the time he started wearing people clothes and hanging with that scrawny Christopher Robin. I could wipe Pooh off the face of the planet with one hand... :lol:

    "Soft Pooh" makes me giggle.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Hand guns. Everyone thinks they are Dirty Harry. Gonna shoot a griz! Fuck you, douchebags. If you can't handle it, stay the fuck in your cars and leave the back trails to those of us who can. Bear spray works just fine... at really close range. ;)
    right...
    handguns.
    people are terrible.

    i vote we hunt rapists and cold blooded killers in a similar fashion as that of a bear or mountain lion.
    sheer stealth like maneuvering, stalking through bush, and finally...pounce... living throat extinguished

    taking guns into a national park is horse shit.

    some dumb asshole is going to shoot and kill a buffalo.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Outside of the national parks, I am usually armed, but that is because I tend to be rather anthrophobic, not because I am worried about animals. Like you said, once you know how to act in their territory, you should have very little to fear. However, now that other people are bringing guns to the parks, it makes me want to bring a gun to the park. The only animal I worry about walks on two legs. I tend to leave the trails and do a bit of bush-whacking. So, now I get to wonder if some dispshit is going to have his gun drawn on me when he hears me moving around in the brush. Just a bad idea all around. I too carry pepper spray in griz country. Nothing like attempting to mace a would-be mugger that stands eight feet tall and weighs 1,000 pounds. ;)
    Grizzlies are very intimidating. I've had plenty of encounters with black bears but they usually run and hide once they spot you. Grizzlies on the other hand are very unpredictable. I came within 100 yards of a mother grizzly and her two cubs a few years ago in northern Montana. All three bears stared me down for what seemed like 37 minutes but was probably only 37 seconds. After they dismissed me as a non-threat, they continued foraging for food.

    Those 37 seconds were very unsettling. It felt like they were staring into my soul. I wouldn't have had a chance if she decided I was a threat to the cubs.

    If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    Grizzlies ain't all that. I did this to a grizzly with a couple cans of spray paint and a Thermos, cause I was thirsty.

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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Jason P wrote:
    If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.

    Here is my philosophy on that whole discussion. A bear lives every day of its life struggling to survive in the tiny fraction of what is left of its natural evironment. A hard, brutal existence that we as humans couldn't even imagine. If it crosses over into "man's territory" there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. If one doesn't behave accordingly, even in its own area, there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. Add to that the poachers and hunters that kill them even when they are in their own territory and behaving accordingly. The king of the forest is beset on all sides by the tyranny of evil men. That being said, I have to ask myself, what percentage of my life do I spend in what I consider a bear's land? Well, I spend a hell of a lot more time there than 99% of the world's human population, but still it is only a mere fraction of a percent where my life is in any kind of danger. So, me = lazy ass human living a soft life except for the rare instances when I am actually in a bear's house (not because I have to, but because I choose to) .

    How can I justify compromising the life of a bear so I can enjoy a few recreational hours amongst them? I am choosing to be out there. They aren't choosing to have me there. It isn't fair for me to put their life at risk by bringing my guns simply because I am uncomfortable with the idea they might attack or kill me. They have plenty to worry about, plenty to struggle with every damn day without my selfish inclusion in their life. Especially when I know full well that if something did happen to me, the bear would pay for my choice with its life.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Grizzlies ain't all that. I did this to a grizzly with a couple cans of spray paint and a Thermos, cause I was thirsty.

    care-bear-motivational-poster-demotivational-poster-1265770619.jpg

    Man, you find a grizzly hopped up on enough salmon, you can get away with just about anything.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,038
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    If I was backpacking in Alaska, that is the one place I would consider taking heavy weaponry (shotgun or .50 cal handgun). The bears are much bigger and much more accustomed to meat then the remaining few in the U.S. I would never, ever want to use it but better safe then sorry.

    Here is my philosophy on that whole discussion. A bear lives every day of its life struggling to survive in the tiny fraction of what is left of its natural evironment. A hard, brutal existence that we as humans couldn't even imagine. If it crosses over into "man's territory" there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. If one doesn't behave accordingly, even in its own area, there is a very good chance it will be intentionally killed. Add to that the poachers and hunters that kill them even when they are in their own territory and behaving accordingly. The king of the forest is beset on all sides by the tyranny of evil men. That being said, I have to ask myself, what percentage of my life do I spend in what I consider a bear's land? Well, I spend a hell of a lot more time there than 99% of the world's human population, but still it is only a mere fraction of a percent where my life is in any kind of danger. So, me = lazy ass human living a soft life except for the rare instances when I am actually in a bear's house (not because I have to, but because I choose to) .

    How can I justify compromising the life of a bear so I can enjoy a few recreational hours amongst them? I am choosing to be out there. They aren't choosing to have me there. It isn't fair for me to put their life at risk by bringing my guns simply because I am uncomfortable with the idea they might attack or kill me. They have plenty to worry about, plenty to struggle with every damn day without my selfish inclusion in their life. Especially when I know full well that if something did happen to me, the bear would pay for my choice with its life.
    well said, Eyed, VERY well said.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    mickeyrat wrote:
    well said, Eyed, VERY well said.

    Thanks, Mickey. See, I'm not ALL just bad jokes. :D
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i have not been inside yellowstone, just around the outskirts.
    moral of the story...
    oil refineries were right there when i saw yellowstone national park signs.

    this always upset me.
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    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,972
    Claireack wrote:

    You're bi-lingual!! I am impressed!

    eyed is bi???? :wtf:

    I had heard rumors, but didn't want to believe them.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    chadwick wrote:
    i have not been inside yellowstone, just around the outskirts.
    moral of the story...
    oil refineries were right there when i saw yellowstone national park signs.

    this always upset me.

    You should see the kind of hold the oil, gas, and coal companies have in Wyoming. Cheney's ilk. Right now they are somehow working with the forest service to employee people to go in and remove trail signs and stop trail maintenance. Basically, if they can prove that people aren't using the forests and mountains, then there is no reason to not tear shit up looking for resources. There is no consideration being given to the animals or eco-systems. This is the areas around Yellowstone and throughout Wyoming that I am talking about. However, rest assured, these evil motherfuckers wouldn't blink an eye if they were given permission to actually develop refineries within the park. Sometimes, I believe it is just a matter of time.

    Yellowstone, the park itself, breaks my heart as much as it lifts my spirit.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    imalive wrote:
    Claireack wrote:

    You're bi-lingual!! I am impressed!

    eyed is bi???? :wtf:

    I had heard rumors, but didn't want to believe them.

    Tri, my friend. Man, woman, porcupine... it don't matter.
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  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    eyedclaar wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    Claireack wrote:

    You're bi-lingual!! I am impressed!

    eyed is bi???? :wtf:

    I had heard rumors, but didn't want to believe them.

    Tri, my friend. Man, woman, porcupine... it don't matter.

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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855

    funny-pictures-porcupine-kisses-stump.jpg
    God thats cute, that made my day, look at the little weed flower for his date :lol:
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    eyedclaar wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    i have not been inside yellowstone, just around the outskirts.
    moral of the story...
    oil refineries were right there when i saw yellowstone national park signs.

    this always upset me.

    You should see the kind of hold the oil, gas, and coal companies have in Wyoming. Cheney's ilk. Right now they are somehow working with the forest service to employee people to go in and remove trail signs and stop trail maintenance. Basically, if they can prove that people aren't using the forests and mountains, then there is no reason to not tear shit up looking for resources. There is no consideration being given to the animals or eco-systems. This is the areas around Yellowstone and throughout Wyoming that I am talking about. However, rest assured, these evil motherfuckers wouldn't blink an eye if they were given permission to actually develop refineries within the park. Sometimes, I believe it is just a matter of time.

    Yellowstone, the park itself, breaks my heart as much as it lifts my spirit.

    a friend of mine just went through Wyoming and saw Halliburton doing strip mining.
    unreal what these terrible people are doing.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    pandora wrote:

    funny-pictures-porcupine-kisses-stump.jpg
    God thats cute, that made my day, look at the little weed flower for his date :lol:

    Pandora, when porcupines make love, the process lasts for hours with both animals moving very slowly (not surprisngly really) and gently. They have been known to stand together, much like this guy here, kissing and rubbing noses for hours on end. In one of my poems, I once referred to a precarious situations as being "delicate as porcupine copulation" but I don't remember what I was talking about. :lol:
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  • PearlOfAGirlPearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    eyedclaar wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    funny-pictures-porcupine-kisses-stump.jpg
    God thats cute, that made my day, look at the little weed flower for his date :lol:

    Pandora, when porcupines make love, the process lasts for hours with both animals moving very slowly (not surprisngly really) and gently. They have been known to stand together, much like this guy here, kissing and rubbing noses for hours on end. In one of my poems, I once referred to a precarious situations as being "delicate as porcupine copulation" but I don't remember what I was talking about. :lol:
    Stop it eyed, you're making me hot!! ;):lol:

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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    eyedclaar wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    funny-pictures-porcupine-kisses-stump.jpg
    God thats cute, that made my day, look at the little weed flower for his date :lol:

    Pandora, when porcupines make love, the process lasts for hours with both animals moving very slowly (not surprisngly really) and gently. They have been known to stand together, much like this guy here, kissing and rubbing noses for hours on end. In one of my poems, I once referred to a precarious situations as being "delicate as porcupine copulation" but I don't remember what I was talking about. :lol:
    :lol: I love hearing about nature, I am always amazed to see the things we have in common. Please keep sharing your stories :D I so enjoy and I know I am not alone. It is uplifting :thumbup:
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    here in western wa
    there are tons of porcupines.
    the sad part of the story is they are hit by cars at an alarming rate.
    in a 20 mile stretch of highway i have seen almost 10 or 20 porcupines on the side of the road.
    very disturbing to me.
    i want the state to erect porcupine warning signs like they do for deer.
    but wait... deer are big and ruin cars and possibly harm the driver.
    poor little porcupine gets the shitty end of the deal.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    here in western wa
    there are tons of porcupines.
    the sad part of the story is they are hit by cars at an alarming rate.
    in a 20 mile stretch of highway i have seen almost 10 or 20 porcupines on the side of the road.
    very disturbing to me.
    i want the state to erect porcupine warning signs like they do for deer.
    but wait... deer are big and ruin cars and possibly harm the driver.
    poor little porcupine gets the shitty end of the deal.
    :( here it is possum & raccoons, lots of them
    If I had a wish it would be that the animals would have a revelation and learn how to look both ways before crossing
    no more roadkill
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    here in western wa
    there are tons of porcupines.
    the sad part of the story is they are hit by cars at an alarming rate.
    in a 20 mile stretch of highway i have seen almost 10 or 20 porcupines on the side of the road.
    very disturbing to me.
    i want the state to erect porcupine warning signs like they do for deer.
    but wait... deer are big and ruin cars and possibly harm the driver.
    poor little porcupine gets the shitty end of the deal.
    :( here it is possum & raccoons, lots of them
    If I had a wish it would be that the animals would have a revelation and learn how to look both ways before crossing
    no more roadkill

    ya know what
    lets face it
    most ppl can't fucking drive
    it's the truth.

    some ppl hit deer over and over again.
    i know ppl who have hit 3 or 4 or more deer in their life time.
    i have driven 13.12 million miles and never ever hit a single deer.
    ppl are stupid.
    hard to believe i know, but even i am stupid, i just know how to drive a car that's all.
    well, and write poems. i can write a poem.
    driving and poems driving and poems driving and poems... watch out for the porcupines, deer, possums and raccoons... i would run over a stupid evil human if i were drunk :mrgreen:

    speaking of which
    where's dick cheney when ya need 'eem?
    oh that's right, he's strip mining Wyoming while his buddies rape the Gulf.
    fantastic.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    here in western wa
    there are tons of porcupines.
    the sad part of the story is they are hit by cars at an alarming rate.
    in a 20 mile stretch of highway i have seen almost 10 or 20 porcupines on the side of the road.
    very disturbing to me.
    i want the state to erect porcupine warning signs like they do for deer.
    but wait... deer are big and ruin cars and possibly harm the driver.
    poor little porcupine gets the shitty end of the deal.
    :( here it is possum & raccoons, lots of them
    If I had a wish it would be that the animals would have a revelation and learn how to look both ways before crossing
    no more roadkill

    ya know what
    lets face it
    most ppl can't fucking drive
    it's the truth.

    some ppl hit deer over and over again.
    i know ppl who have hit 3 or 4 or more deer in their life time.
    i have driven 13.12 million miles and never ever hit a single deer.
    ppl are stupid.
    hard to believe i know, but even i am stupid, i just know how to drive a car that's all.
    well, and write poems. i can write a poem.
    driving and poems driving and poems driving and poems... watch out for the porcupines, deer, possums and raccoons... i would run over a stupid evil human if i were drunk :mrgreen:

    speaking of which
    where's dick cheney when ya need 'eem?
    oh that's right, he's strip mining Wyoming while his buddies rape the Gulf.
    fantastic.


    I'm with you on the hitting animals thing. Good lord, how hard is it? I have successfully dodged about 1 million mammals in my life. I have never hit anything bigger than a rabbit and that was one time only. I drive faster than fuck right through all the critters and it still has never been a problem for me. Do people even keep one eye open when they drive? Seriously, what the fuck?
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I'm with you on the hitting animals thing. Good lord, how hard is it? I have successfully dodged about 1 million mammals in my life. I have never hit anything bigger than a rabbit and that was one time only. I drive faster than fuck right through all the critters and it still has never been a problem for me. Do people even keep one eye open when they drive? Seriously, what the fuck?


    jackrabbits are the some of the dumbest animals ever...out in the nevada desert, at night, they like to play russian roulette with cars...as soon as they see the headlights get close, the jump out and try to make it across the road...yeah, half the time they don't make it...my mom on more than one occasion destroyed the grill on her car as a jackrabbit made a leap, or hop, of faith :?
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    norm wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I'm with you on the hitting animals thing. Good lord, how hard is it? I have successfully dodged about 1 million mammals in my life. I have never hit anything bigger than a rabbit and that was one time only. I drive faster than fuck right through all the critters and it still has never been a problem for me. Do people even keep one eye open when they drive? Seriously, what the fuck?


    jackrabbits are the some of the dumbest animals ever...out in the nevada desert, at night, they like to play russian roulette with cars...as soon as they see the headlights get close, the jump out and try to make it across the road...yeah, half the time they don't make it...my mom on more than one occasion destroyed the grill on her car as a jackrabbit made a leap, or hop, of faith :?

    Norm, the one rabbit I did hit was on a highway going through the Nevada desert.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    eyedclaar wrote:
    norm wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I'm with you on the hitting animals thing. Good lord, how hard is it? I have successfully dodged about 1 million mammals in my life. I have never hit anything bigger than a rabbit and that was one time only. I drive faster than fuck right through all the critters and it still has never been a problem for me. Do people even keep one eye open when they drive? Seriously, what the fuck?


    jackrabbits are the some of the dumbest animals ever...out in the nevada desert, at night, they like to play russian roulette with cars...as soon as they see the headlights get close, the jump out and try to make it across the road...yeah, half the time they don't make it...my mom on more than one occasion destroyed the grill on her car as a jackrabbit made a leap, or hop, of faith :?

    Norm, the one rabbit I did hit was on a highway going through the Nevada desert.

    well there ya go!

    nevada: gambling, hookers and suicidal jackrabbits

    :lol:
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