US government says boycott of Israeli goods is illegal

Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
the government wants you to report anyone taking part in the boycott of goods from Israel and there are fines and possibly jail time if a store takes part....what the fuck!? are they for real!?!?

i guess if it's a state sanctioned embargo like cuba or gaza it's perfectly ok, but fuck with their money and pay a big fine and go to jail

from the US Department of Commerce, Bureau of Industry and Security

http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenf ... liance.htm

Antiboycott Compliance

The Bureau is charged with administering and enforcing the Antiboycott Laws under the Export Administration Act. Those laws discourage, and in some circumstances, prohibit U.S. companies from furthering or supporting the boycott of Israel sponsored by the Arab League, and certain Moslem countries, including complying with certain requests for information designed to verify compliance with the boycott. Compliance with such requests may be prohibited by the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) and may be reportable to the Bureau.

Boycott Alert

U.S. companies continue to report receiving requests to engage in activities that further or support the boycott of Israel. U.S. companies may receive similar requests in the future. If you have questions, please call (202) 482-2381 and ask for the Duty Officer or you may contact us by email.

Antiboycott Compliance Requirements

Antiboycott Laws:

During the mid-1970's the United States adopted two laws that seek to counteract the participation of U.S. citizens in other nation's economic boycotts or embargoes. These "antiboycott" laws are the 1977 amendments to the Export Administration Act (EAA) and the Ribicoff Amendment to the 1976 Tax Reform Act (TRA). While these laws share a common purpose, there are distinctions in their administration.

Objectives:

The antiboycott laws were adopted to encourage, and in specified cases, require U.S. firms to refuse to participate in foreign boycotts that the United States does not sanction. They have the effect of preventing U.S. firms from being used to implement foreign policies of other nations which run counter to U.S. policy.

Primary Impact:

The Arab League boycott of Israel is the principal foreign economic boycott that U.S. companies must be concerned with today. The antiboycott laws, however, apply to all boycotts imposed by foreign countries that are unsanctioned by the United States.

Who Is Covered by the Laws?

The antiboycott provisions of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) apply to the activities of U.S. persons in the interstate or foreign commerce of the United States. The term "U.S. person" includes all individuals, corporations and unincorporated associations resident in the United States, including the permanent domestic affiliates of foreign concerns. U.S. persons also include U.S. citizens abroad (except when they reside abroad and are employed by non-U.S. persons) and the controlled in fact affiliates of domestic concerns. The test for "controlled in fact" is the ability to establish the general policies or to control the day to day operations of the foreign affiliate.

The scope of the EAR, as defined by Section 8 of the EAA, is limited to actions taken with intent to comply with, further, or support an unsanctioned foreign boycott.

What do the Laws Prohibit?

Conduct that may be penalized under the TRA and/or prohibited under the EAR includes:

Agreements to refuse or actual refusal to do business with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.
Agreements to discriminate or actual discrimination against other persons based on race, religion, sex, national origin or nationality.
Agreements to furnish or actual furnishing of information about business relationships with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.
Agreements to furnish or actual furnishing of information about the race, religion, sex, or national origin of another person.
Implementing letters of credit containing prohibited boycott terms or conditions.

The TRA does not "prohibit" conduct, but denies tax benefits ("penalizes") for certain types of boycott-related agreements.

What Must Be Reported?

The EAR requires U.S. persons to report quarterly requests they have received to take certain actions to comply with, further, or support an unsanctioned foreign boycott.

The TRA requires taxpayers to report "operations" in, with, or related to a boycotting country or its nationals and requests received to participate in or cooperate with an international boycott. The Treasury Department publishes a quarterly list of "boycotting countries."

How To Report:

The EAR requires reports of receipts of boycott requests to be filed quarterly on form BIS 621-P for single transactions or BIS 6051P for multiple transactions received in the same calendar quarter.

The forms are available on-line in a fillable pdf format, or you may still obtain paper forms. Go to the forms section located on this page. To obtain paper copies by U.S. mail, call the Office of Antiboycott Compliance in Washington, DC at (202) 482-2448.

TRA reports are filed with tax returns on IRS form 5713. This form is available from local IRS offices.

Penalties:

The Export Admnistration Act (EAA) specifies penalties for violations of the Antiboycott Regulations as well as export control violations. These can include:

Criminal:

The penalties imposed for each "knowing" violation can be a fine of up to $50,000 or five times the value of the exports involved, whichever is greater, and imprisonment of up to five years. During periods when the EAR are continued in effect by an Executive Order issued pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, the criminal penalties for each "willful" violation can be a fine of up to $50,000 and imprisonment for up to ten years.

Administrative:

For each violation of the EAR any or all of the following may be imposed:

General denial of export privileges;
The imposition of fines of up to $11,000 per violation; and/or
Exclusion from practice.
Boycott agreements under the TRA involve the denial of all or part of the foreign tax benefits discussed above.

When the EAA is in lapse, penalties for violation of the Antiboycott Regulations are governed by the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The IEEPA Enhancement Act provides for penalties of up to the greater of $250,000 per violation or twice the value of the transaction for administrative violations of Antiboycott Regulations, and up to $1 million and 20 years imprisonment per violation for criminal antiboycott violations.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    anti boycott laws???? :lol:

    land of the free, eh???
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    There's no way. I'd like to see the government arrest me for choosing which goods I decide to buy.

    I'd boycott it just to see if they come for me.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    I'm lost for words.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    but doing it to Arizona is just fine. Doesn't that seem strange?
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    but doing it to Arizona is just fine. Doesn't that seem strange?

    mike
    if you understood anything
    it would not seem that strange
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    ed243421 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    but doing it to Arizona is just fine. Doesn't that seem strange?

    mike
    if you understood anything
    it would not seem that strange



    lol...you have got to be kiding me.

    explain it to me,
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    but doing it to Arizona is just fine. Doesn't that seem strange?

    mike
    if you understood anything
    it would not seem that strange



    lol...you have got to be kiding me.

    explain it to me,

    mike
    my bad
    i was so fuckin high when i read and wrote it
    i saw "legal"
    ho harm, no foul
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    ed243421 wrote:
    mike
    my bad
    i was so fuckin high when i read and wrote it
    i saw "legal"
    ho harm, no foul

    :lol:
    good enough
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?
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  • Brock SamsonBrock Samson Posts: 328
    haffajappa wrote:
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?

    only if you get caught with them.

    i wish they'd end the cuban embargo. i'd love to go there someday. we've got a lot of cubans working where i work, i've seen millions of pictures of their home country, looks beautiful. plus i've heard from many of them that american men would get laid non-stop down there. they keep telling me i can get in if i fly out of canada, but i'm not willing to risk it. i have faith that americans will be able to legally visit cuba before my life is over.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    moe.ron wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?

    only if you get caught with them.

    i wish they'd end the cuban embargo. i'd love to go there someday. we've got a lot of cubans working where i work, i've seen millions of pictures of their home country, looks beautiful. plus i've heard from many of them that american men would get laid non-stop down there. they keep telling me i can get in if i fly out of canada, but i'm not willing to risk it. i have faith that americans will be able to legally visit cuba before my life is over.
    That's another thing that pisses me off. How my country will not let me fly to Cuba. How the fuck is that freedom?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    moe.ron wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?

    only if you get caught with them.

    i wish they'd end the cuban embargo. i'd love to go there someday. we've got a lot of cubans working where i work, i've seen millions of pictures of their home country, looks beautiful. plus i've heard from many of them that american men would get laid non-stop down there. they keep telling me i can get in if i fly out of canada, but i'm not willing to risk it. i have faith that americans will be able to legally visit cuba before my life is over.
    That's another thing that pisses me off. How my country will not let me fly to Cuba. How the fuck is that freedom?


    and yet people like arnold shwatzenwhatever can smoke them on tv and smile about it. i wonder what would happen if a comparable star smoked a blunt on tv like that?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    moe.ron wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?

    only if you get caught with them.

    i wish they'd end the cuban embargo. i'd love to go there someday. we've got a lot of cubans working where i work, i've seen millions of pictures of their home country, looks beautiful. plus i've heard from many of them that american men would get laid non-stop down there. they keep telling me i can get in if i fly out of canada, but i'm not willing to risk it. i have faith that americans will be able to legally visit cuba before my life is over.
    That's another thing that pisses me off. How my country will not let me fly to Cuba. How the fuck is that freedom?

    just go. fly out of canada or mexico. your cuban visa will be stamped on a loose leaf of paper so you can hide it upon re entry to freedomland. your government doesnt really need to know youve been to cuba. 8-)
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    i find it bizarre you aren't allowed to travel somewhere...
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    haffajappa wrote:
    i find it bizarre you aren't allowed to travel somewhere...

    bizarrely funny.

    wonder what would happen if americans decided to travel to cuba en masse. how could they be stopped and what would the govt do i wonder???


    lets not forget audioslave not so long ago went to cuba.
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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    moe.ron wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    aren't cuban cigars illegal?

    only if you get caught with them.
    Or your an golfers and smoke one after the Ryder Cup. Davis Love and Jiminez sat smoking a couple of huge Cubans after the 2006 Ryder Cup which was in the US.

    What's this?

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    Presidents Cup, San Fransisco. What's the betting that's Cuban
  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    unbelievable. no one will ever tell me what i can or cannot boycott. boycotting is just a peaceful way of putting international pressure on the rogue state of Israel.

    so while all the fat fucks are sitting there eating their macdonalds (to use just one example), i wouldn't touch it under any circumstances. and if anyone says to you that boycotting is a waste of time, ignore them. don't give in and don't give up, just remember the successful boycott against South African racist apartheid.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718

    just go. fly out of canada or mexico. your cuban visa will be stamped on a loose leaf of paper so you can hide it upon re entry to freedomland. your government doesnt really need to know youve been to cuba. 8-)
    What is the penalty if the U.S. found out I went to Cuba?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,381

    just go. fly out of canada or mexico. your cuban visa will be stamped on a loose leaf of paper so you can hide it upon re entry to freedomland. your government doesnt really need to know youve been to cuba. 8-)
    What is the penalty if the U.S. found out I went to Cuba?
    you will be deemed a terrorist and sent to guantanamo bay , CUBA!!!!! :lol::lol::lol::mrgreen:
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  • Nothingman54Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    Fuck the US government! Nothing but evil fuckers. Any and every administration. They want control and they have it.
    I'll be back
  • yosiyosi NYC Posts: 3,069
    Triumphant, what are you getting so upset about? You can do whatever you want. This law doesn't have anything to do with individual action. It pertains to corporations cooperating with boycotts imposed by foreign governments. You're perfectly free not to eat at MacDonalds (I wouldn't eat there either. That shit is gross).
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Kinda off topic but Israel sucks big giant cocks.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    And Israel is proposing an anti-boycott bill. Interesting...

    Full article http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ycott-bill

    But this bit here:

    "Israel's anti-boycott belligerenceA bill seeking to outlaw boycotts of Israeli institutions and products – including in settlements – is diplomatically explosive


    Miri Weingarten guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 30 June 2010 10.00 BST Article history

    A new "anti-boycott bill", the third in a series of proposed laws that aim to curtail the ability of civil society to criticise Israeli government policy, will punish Israelis or foreign nationals who initiate or promote a boycott of Israel.

    The bill not only prohibits boycotts of legal Israeli institutions, but also of settlement activities and products. It seeks to impose fines on Israelis who "promote boycotts" and transfer the fines to boycotted organisations.

    It will impose a 10-year entry ban on foreign residents engaging in boycotts, and forbid them to carry out any economic activities in Israel.

    Heavy sanctions will also be imposed on "foreign political entities" engaging in boycotts. Any government promoting a boycott will be "prohibited from carrying out any action in Israeli bank accounts, in shares traded in Israel, in land or in any other property requiring registration of transfer", and no money or property will be transferred from Israel to that government.

    Since the Palestinian Authority is defined by Israel as a "foreign political entity", its recent decision to end its economic dependence on settlements for products, jobs and services will lead to punitive measures.

    According to the bill, even money or property due to Palestinians and to the PA by virtue of previous "laws, agreements or governmental decisions" will not be transferred to them.

    The geographical application of the anti-boycott bill to the West Bank ("Judea and Samaria") and the potential annulment of prior agreements will signal a de jure annexation of the West Bank to Israel and a final demise of the Oslo accords signed by the PA and Israel in the mid-1990s.
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