Engulfing the Internet..
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What the hell is going on in our Country ? :evil: Why is the Gov involved with this at all ?? :shock: We are loosing our liberty. This president is completely OUT OF CONTROL !!!!! SO spill in the gulf is justification for this MARXIST administration to stifle our speech ??? :x
How in the hell can anyone still support this President. The supreme court has already ruled that the fcc does not have the power to do this and congress said it wasn't going to give it to them. Yet they think they can ?? Wise the fuck up People !!!!!! Cant you see that they want to control political speech better yet all speech ? Yet I bet thier are on some on here that have no problem with this.. :evil: :evil:
Engulfing the Internet
By The Prowler on 6.17.10 @ 6:10AM
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/06/1 ... e-internet
Despite opposition by a House of Representatives majority and a bipartisan group of Senators, the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday is expected to proceed with plans to impose federal government regulation of the Internet, which would essentially treat broadband networks -- and the companies that invested more than $200 billion in private capital to deploy them -- as utilities.
The commission's chairman, Julius Genachowski, and his staff have insisted that imposing federal regulations originally written in the 1930s for the telephone is the only way the Obama Administration can gain the "kind of oversight and control that we need," says an FCC staffer with ties to another Democrat commissioner. "Look at the Gulf oil spill, that's what happens when we let corporations just do their own thing without any accountability. We can't allow that to happen with the Internet. We won't allow it."
The vote to continue the review and comment process at the FCC is expected to be a party-line vote, with the two Republican commissioners voting against the proposed regulatory scheme.
Under the Obama Administration's plan, the FCC would be able to enforce so-called "net neutrality" rules, allowing the federal government to set how broadband and Internet Service Providers (ISPs) manage the networks. By bringing broadband and the Internet under FCC regulatory oversight, the FCC would also be able to impose policies related to speech or online business models.
"The American public really has no idea how devastating these policies are going to have on free speech and the Internet," says a Republican Senate staffer. "If they are able to impose these regulations, they would be able to impose a host of different regulations that would limit free speech online and essentially give the left the upper hand. First the auto industry, then health care and the financial services industry, now this."
How in the hell can anyone still support this President. The supreme court has already ruled that the fcc does not have the power to do this and congress said it wasn't going to give it to them. Yet they think they can ?? Wise the fuck up People !!!!!! Cant you see that they want to control political speech better yet all speech ? Yet I bet thier are on some on here that have no problem with this.. :evil: :evil:
Engulfing the Internet
By The Prowler on 6.17.10 @ 6:10AM
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/06/1 ... e-internet
Despite opposition by a House of Representatives majority and a bipartisan group of Senators, the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday is expected to proceed with plans to impose federal government regulation of the Internet, which would essentially treat broadband networks -- and the companies that invested more than $200 billion in private capital to deploy them -- as utilities.
The commission's chairman, Julius Genachowski, and his staff have insisted that imposing federal regulations originally written in the 1930s for the telephone is the only way the Obama Administration can gain the "kind of oversight and control that we need," says an FCC staffer with ties to another Democrat commissioner. "Look at the Gulf oil spill, that's what happens when we let corporations just do their own thing without any accountability. We can't allow that to happen with the Internet. We won't allow it."
The vote to continue the review and comment process at the FCC is expected to be a party-line vote, with the two Republican commissioners voting against the proposed regulatory scheme.
Under the Obama Administration's plan, the FCC would be able to enforce so-called "net neutrality" rules, allowing the federal government to set how broadband and Internet Service Providers (ISPs) manage the networks. By bringing broadband and the Internet under FCC regulatory oversight, the FCC would also be able to impose policies related to speech or online business models.
"The American public really has no idea how devastating these policies are going to have on free speech and the Internet," says a Republican Senate staffer. "If they are able to impose these regulations, they would be able to impose a host of different regulations that would limit free speech online and essentially give the left the upper hand. First the auto industry, then health care and the financial services industry, now this."
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
actually the aol/time warner merger happened under clinton....if i remember correctly the merger was finalized <2 weeks before bush took office
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
right, this is just a little side topic to the op. but bush wasn't sworn in until jan of '01
it's a long chain, not just 1 president really
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
So OP do a bit more research try and break free of the conservative news bubble (especially if your listening to Alex Jones or Glen Beck) look outside of there even if you don't agree. I watch fox news several times a week to keep a pulse on that side of the political spectrum. Also please try and take a breath.
This might be hard buy WHY, why is Obama "dangerous" Why have you changed you political stance? I do support the president but agree that he is flawed just as the rest of us are. I would really love to hear what compelled you to change your political affiliation? It seems more often then not people with your views are not willing to back them up.
It's always easier for the party who isn't in power to make their side sound so much better... 8 years of republicans, and everyone is a democrat and thinks republicans suck... give it 4-8 years of democrats in charge and everyone will be siding with the republicans and think the dems are worthless.
You could play the average Fox News opinion show today along with the average MSNBC opinion show from 2006, and it's amazing how similar they sound... using the same buzzwords, hypotheticals, and idiotic half-assed comparisons to nazis and fascism and how the party in control is destroying our country. It's humorous really.
It's because who ever is in charge does a terrible job and doesn't do anything really to help us and the alternative can't be any worse, right? well, it usually is...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
"Government regulation" in this case is keeping everything fair for everyone, instead of letting your internet connection be auctioned off to the highest bidder. Do you want Time-Warner subscribers to be the only ones that have access to Facebook? Do you want to have to pay for access to sites in addition to what you pay your ISP every month? Like cable TV and satellite TV tiers? Because that's what it's going to be in Net Neutrality fails.
As they say, "All bits are created equal" and the government wants to keep it that way.
Do you not believe that once you pay to access the internet, you should be allowed to visit whichever sites you choose? Do you not believe that if a small business buys a domain and sets up a website that their customers - whoever and wherever they are - should not have to pay extra to be allowed to visit their website? Or that that same small business should not have to pay AT&T an extra service charge for their site to be accessible to anyone connecting via AT&T's network? Oh, and add a separate charge for each carrier. Do you not remember AT&T censoring Eddie Vedder at Lolla? Is that what you call freedom?
Just goes to show that if they can find a way to spin it as "socialism" or "marxism" that they can get Tea Partiers riled up about anything they want. These mindless drones are now going to fight on behalf of AT&T's (or Verizon's, or Comcast's) right to cut them off from portions of the internet? They are a corporation's wet dream.