Too Dumb To Understand

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    He singled out this sentence from Obama as unfortunate: "That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge -- a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's secretary of energy."

    Obama's nearly 10th-grade-level rating was the highest of any of his major speeches and well above the Grade 7.4 of his 2008 "Yes, we can" victory speech, which many consider his best effort, Payack said.
    I found these interesting. I can't believe the first quote would make people think he's 'aloof and out of touch'. Seriously? :eh: :wtf: It's a plainly worded statement of fact (well...probably not fact - the team was likely recommended to him, not assembled by him)....but wtf? are people really that dumb? If his best ever speech is at a grade 7 level....I guess so.
  • Black,R, Y: Many Conservatives are unhappy w/ Republicans, b/c they have abandoned our principles. Everyone's favorite punching bag, BUSH, really failed Conservatives on a lot of issues: spending, SS reform, border security, etc.

    Conservative and Republican used to be synonymous. Not so much anymore.

    Since you asked, I would say Reagan was the last president to adhere to conservative principles.

    And I'm not debating the entire Reagan Presidency or the Cold War here today.
    (who's got the energy for that? Its too hot.)
  • five34b7- Why don't you respond to the quote from Baucus. He is one of the authors of Obamacare.

    Take all the time you need to look him up.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I am very familiar with him and don't need to look him up. So when exactly is the US gonna be a full Marxist nation... just curious..wanna venture a guess?
    five34b7- Why don't you respond to the quote from Baucus. He is one of the authors of Obamacare.

    Take all the time you need to look him up.
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  • You always respond to a question with a question?

    You're boy, Baucus, said this was gonna work to fix the "mal-distribution" of income.

    All I hear is crickets.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Who said he was "my boy". You should make stupid, general assumptions based on things you don't know. I'm no democrat or republican and just to be clear, I didn't care all that much for the healthcare plan as I feel it was a very watered down version of what they could have accomplished. And I didn't like the economic bailouts either. Politics isn't a sport, yet your reply is similar to a sports fan complimenting their winning team or side... so silly.
    You always respond to a question with a question?

    You're boy, Baucus, said this was gonna work to fix the "mal-distribution" of income.

    All I hear is crickets.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889

    He singled out this sentence from Obama as unfortunate: "That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge -- a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's secretary of energy."

    Obama's nearly 10th-grade-level rating was the highest of any of his major speeches and well above the Grade 7.4 of his 2008 "Yes, we can" victory speech, which many consider his best effort, Payack said.
    I found these interesting. I can't believe the first quote would make people think he's 'aloof and out of touch'. Seriously? :eh: :wtf: It's a plainly worded statement of fact (well...probably not fact - the team was likely recommended to him, not assembled by him)....but wtf? are people really that dumb? If his best ever speech is at a grade 7 level....I guess so.

    oh boy... he gave a speech at a grade level that 15 year olds are able to understand... and that's a problem to some?

    Let's see... remember how much of a moron you were in 10th grade? remember all of the stupid shit that you did (or didn't do)? Apparently giving a speech that those knucklehead or older can understand makes you an elitist. If that's too high of a level for his "target audience", then it says a lot more about the American people than it does about our President.
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    _ Posts: 6,657
    scb- wrong.

    the point is he thinks that if he dumbs it down, then we'll go along. HE thinks his failure is being to intelligent for the masses.

    So HE's the one who wrote the article you posted then?? :?
    He can't conceive that the people would reject his philosophies.

    And to whoever said he's not redistributing wealth in this country, I can't help you. You are helplessly void in the area of current events. Just say you understand it and are a Marxist. But to say that it is not going on is assinine. The whole HC Bill is a redistribution of wealth.

    Max Baucus (D) Montana said:
    "The last couple three years the mal-distribution of income in America is gone up way too much, the wealthy are getting way, way too wealthy, and the middle income class is left behind. Wages have not kept up with increased income of the highest income in America. This legislation will have the effect of addressing that mal-distribution of income in America."

    ???????

    None of the rest of this post is relevant to the original post.
  • dasvidana
    dasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,356
    I didn't write the article.

    I just find it interesting.

    He is an elitist, and no, education does not equal elitist.

    He is an elitist b/c everytime we don't fall for his next "redistribution of wealth" (a Marxist philosophy) scheme, he says it's b/c he didn't explain it well enough to the people. Meaning if we could just understand him more, then we'd go for it. If only we were as smart as Obamessiah.

    The whole Dem philosophy is that we exist to support the gov't, which is in direct contrast to the intention of the founders and the Constitution.

    I do understand his policies and I disagree w/ them.
    I think it is a mistake to suggest that democratic or republican philosophies are homogeneous. Within each pary is a spectrum of beliefs to be sure. As far as Obama goes, I think his response to the oil spewing is horrible, but not because I think he is a Marxist.

    By the way, your comments suggest a tone that leads me to think that you're really trying to goad people into arguing with you rather than having an honest discussion/disagreement of a current event. If that is the case, you should run for public office.
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  • dasvidana wrote:
    By the way, your comments suggest a tone that leads me to think that you're really trying to goad people into arguing with you rather than having an honest discussion/disagreement of a current event.

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    He singled out this sentence from Obama as unfortunate: "That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge -- a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's secretary of energy."

    Obama's nearly 10th-grade-level rating was the highest of any of his major speeches and well above the Grade 7.4 of his 2008 "Yes, we can" victory speech, which many consider his best effort, Payack said.
    I found these interesting. I can't believe the first quote would make people think he's 'aloof and out of touch'. Seriously? :eh: :wtf: It's a plainly worded statement of fact (well...probably not fact - the team was likely recommended to him, not assembled by him)....but wtf? are people really that dumb? If his best ever speech is at a grade 7 level....I guess so.

    oh boy... he gave a speech at a grade level that 15 year olds are able to understand... and that's a problem to some?

    Let's see... remember how much of a moron you were in 10th grade? remember all of the stupid shit that you did (or didn't do)? Apparently giving a speech that those knucklehead or older can understand makes you an elitist. If that's too high of a level for his "target audience", then it says a lot more about the American people than it does about our President.
    My problem is that the sentence i quoted originally was not hard to understand, nor did it make him seem out of touch. It was, as I said, a plainly worded statement. I'm shocked that critics are saying it's too high-brow for the american public....as you say, that says a lot about the intelligence of the public. But now I don't understand if we're agreeing, or if you think I'm being elitist?

    Aside from that point....I don't think Obama should be talking down to a level that 15 years olds can understand, at least not as a target. Maybe I'm naive, but I'd think the less technical a speech is, the easier it is to bullshit your way thru it. The really sad part is...he's not talking down to a 15 year old reading level....he's talking down to a GRADE 10 reading level (comprende? :P ) Which is likely the average reading level of an ADULT american....(just looked it up: the average reading level in America, and from what I can tell, in Canada, is an 8th grade level. ugh. maybe I should take it all back, sounds like he NEEDS to talk down :( ).
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    And no, I don't remember much of the stupid shit I did when I was 15, but I hear I did a lot ;)