Why Are People Racist?

Godfather.

musicismylife78 wrote:

people are racist because racism is what built this country. there are corporations in this country that started because of their profiting from slave labor. Racism is engrained in the american fabric. whether you want to start with columbus murdering and slaughtering arawak because he viewed them as less than human, or whether you want to talk about the 1620 founding of the colonies.

People are racist because our country has a long history of racism. You can talk about how far we have come, but you also need to realize that a little less than 20 years ago, Rodney king was on video being beaten 56 times by a bunch of racist pigs and the jury found the cops not guilty. That pretty much says everything right there. or you have abner louima, raped by a couple of ny's finest with a broom and the cops went free. or amadou diallo murdered because police thought his wallet was a gun, shot him 41 times, and guess what, the cops got off scott free.

Or you can look at the racist justice system. Where Mumia and leonard peltier languish in jail.

I keep forgeting only whites are racist

Godfather.

vomikus39

matabele wrote:

Backstop-440 wrote:

Also in case anyone was wondering the baseball player matabele is talking about was John Rocker.

Thanks Backstop, twas bugging the hell out of me, googled it but Rocker did not show, strange.
We need to fight this disease with education, light hearted adverts and cartoons teaching people why we are all different and why self respect is so important.

John Rocker was right in what he said years ago. I live in NYC and like all New Yorkers, ride the subway. Many train cars transport the kinds of people Rocker spoke about. That's why I love it here so much, SO MUCH DIVERSITY!! People are racist because people suck!!

BTW John Rocker was pitching for an EXTREMELY minor team in Long Island, NY called the Long Island Ducks. Don't know if he's there anymore, but what a looooser!!

vomikus39

Godfather. wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

people are racist because racism is what built this country. there are corporations in this country that started because of their profiting from slave labor. Racism is engrained in the american fabric. whether you want to start with columbus murdering and slaughtering arawak because he viewed them as less than human, or whether you want to talk about the 1620 founding of the colonies.

People are racist because our country has a long history of racism. You can talk about how far we have come, but you also need to realize that a little less than 20 years ago, Rodney king was on video being beaten 56 times by a bunch of racist pigs and the jury found the cops not guilty. That pretty much says everything right there. or you have abner louima, raped by a couple of ny's finest with a broom and the cops went free. or amadou diallo murdered because police thought his wallet was a gun, shot him 41 times, and guess what, the cops got off scott free.

Not true, Officer Justin Volpe is serving many years.

TriumphantAngel

one of the reasons is fear. and we all know that fear is the path to the dark side.

fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.

true story.

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TriumphantAngel wrote:

one of the reasons is fear. and we all know that fear is the path to the dark side.

fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.

true story.

:thumbup:

ed243421

money and pride

but that was forced upon us

now it's just inbred

part of the system

a diversion of hate

hate them and not us

and people keep buying into it

matabele

vomikus39 wrote:

matabele wrote:

Backstop-440 wrote:

Also in case anyone was wondering the baseball player matabele is talking about was John Rocker.

Thanks Backstop, twas bugging the hell out of me, googled it but Rocker did not show, strange.
We need to fight this disease with education, light hearted adverts and cartoons teaching people why we are all different and why self respect is so important.

John Rocker was right in what he said years ago. I live in NYC and like all New Yorkers, ride the subway. Many train cars transport the kinds of people Rocker spoke about. That's why I love it here so much, SO MUCH DIVERSITY!! People are racist because people suck!!

BTW John Rocker was pitching for an EXTREMELY minor team in Long Island, NY called the Long Island Ducks. Don't know if he's there anymore, but what a looooser!!

I don't think Rocker was commenting on the diversity, it was about people not taking care of themselves and it is these misconceptions that are clouding the race issue.

MDM

Fear. Such a dangerous emotion...

Gary Carter

matabele wrote:

I come from Africa, have lived in many countries and have experienced racism on all levels. There is a worrying trend to associate justifiably negative comments with racism and this is diverting attention from the real issues. An example would be the John Rocha (spelling?) incident that happened in the late 90's, when his team went to play in NY he made a comment about the people after travelling on the subway. The comment was taken out of context as a racial remark when he was in fact commenting on the lack of self respect the people had.

he;s comments weren't taken outta context. hes a southern backwater hick to the fullest.



# On ever playing for a New York team: "I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing."

# On New York City itself: "The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?"





so those comments aren't racist to you :roll:



A MINIVAN is rolling slowly down Atlanta's Route 400, and John Rocker, driving directly behind it in his blue Chevy Tahoe, is pissed. "Stupid bitch! Learn to f---ing drive!" he yells. Rocker honks his horn. Once. Twice. He swerves a lane to the left. There is a toll booth with a tariff of 50 cents. Rocker tosses in two quarters. The gate doesn't rise. He tosses in another quarter. The gate still doesn't rise. From behind, a horn blasts. "F--- you!" Rocker yells, flashing his left middle finger out the window. Finally, after Rocker has thrown in two dimes and a nickel, the gate rises. Rocker brings up a thick wad of phlegm. Puuuh! He spits at the machine. "Hate this damn toll."

With one hand on the wheel, the other gripping a cell phone, Rocker tears down the highway, weaving through traffic. In 10 minutes he is due to speak at Lockhart Academy, a school for learning-disabled children. Does Rocker enjoy speaking to children? "No," he says, "not really." But of all things big and small he hates -- New York Mets fans, sore arms, jock itch -- the thing he hates most is traffic. "I have no patience," he says. The speedometer reads 72. Rocker, in blue-tinted sunglasses and a backward baseball cap, is seething. "So many dumb asses don't know how to drive in this town," he says, Billy Joel's New York State of Mind humming softly from the radio. "They turn from the wrong lane. They go 20 miles per hour. It makes me want -- Look! Look at this idiot! I guarantee you she's a Japanese woman." A beige Toyota is jerking from lane to lane. The woman at the wheel is white. "How bad are Asian women at driving?"

matabele

The first quotation is not racist and was the type of thing I was under the impression he said, the second quotation is blatantly racist. Perhaps using Rocker as an example was a blunder, I only saw his fellow players coming to his rescue and what was in the media at the time. The point I am trying to make is that by labeling certain comments as racist actually does more harm as it detracts from the real issue. Many people born into poverty never get educated and they in turn have children who grow up not understanding basic things that our parents taught us. I spent a number of years down in South Texas and the state of the immigrants personal hygiene is very poor, rest rooms, restaurants, etc, so for making this comment I could be labeled a racist and that would take the focus away from the real issue, people are walking on egg shells when it comes to this subject and the answer lies in education.

Gary Carter

matabele wrote:

The first quotation is not racist and was the type of thing I was under the impression he said, the second quotation is blatantly racist. Perhaps using Rocker as an example was a blunder, I only saw his fellow players coming to his rescue and what was in the media at the time. The point I am trying to make is that by labeling certain comments as racist actually does more harm as it detracts from the real issue. Many people born into poverty never get educated and they in turn have children who grow up not understanding basic things that our parents taught us. I spent a number of years down in South Texas and the state of the immigrants personal hygiene is very poor, rest rooms, restaurants, etc, so for making this comment I could be labeled a racist and that would take the focus away from the real issue, people are walking on egg shells when it comes to this subject and the answer lies in education.

but i think you hit onto something though. people like rocker who grow up in a "racist" household see that growing up and think that's the right way to be an act. plus i think rocker had other problems besides growing up in a "racist" household. no you aren't racist at all by the comment you made. if people have poor hygiene then they have poor hygiene. it wouldn't make a difference what race they are. they coulda been white or asian.

catefrances

scb wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

one of the reasons is fear. and we all know that fear is the path to the dark side.

fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering.

true story.

:thumbup:

fear is the virus they use to divide us
hoping well all just pretend that theres no other way

Turquoisefire777

Racism: A Black Fortune 500 Company


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g3c9V9F9l4

ajedigecko

simple question....is the term "redneck" a racist term?

or does an additional adjective need to be inserted before redneck..."stupid redneck, dumb redneck", in order for it to be a racist statement?

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ajedigecko wrote:

simple question....is the term "redneck" a racist term?

or does an additional adjective need to be inserted before redneck..."stupid redneck, dumb redneck", in order for it to be a racist statement?

Depends on how it's used. I usually see it used in an ignorant, inappropriate way, as racial slurs are used. Though I haven't thought of it as racist since it seems to me to be a reference to people in the South. How about "southernist" - is that a word?

Gary Carter

ajedigecko wrote:

simple question....is the term "redneck" a racist term?

or does an additional adjective need to be inserted before redneck..."stupid redneck, dumb redneck", in order for it to be a racist statement?

yes it is def a racist term but its been accepted for many years by southerns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

Blockhead

Its the psych of being diffrient than someone or something else, its almost like a defense mechanism. But these day you can't say anything with out beining labeled a racisit. I think thats more of an issue than racisim its self.

ajedigecko

"I am a redneck myself, born and bred on a submarginal farm in Appalachia, descended from an endless line of dark-complected, lug-eared, beetle-browed, insolent barbarian peasants, a line reaching back to the dark forests of central Europe and the alpine caves of my Neanderthal primogenitors." -mr. abbey


i may not be from the south or the hollers.........but i am ok with being a redneck.

Flagg

scb wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

simple question....is the term "redneck" a racist term?

or does an additional adjective need to be inserted before redneck..."stupid redneck, dumb redneck", in order for it to be a racist statement?

Depends on how it's used. I usually see it used in an ignorant, inappropriate way, as racial slurs are used. Though I haven't thought of it as racist since it seems to me to be a reference to people in the South. How about "southernist" - is that a word?

Not just the south but I think it refers to any rural area.

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Flagg wrote:

scb wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

simple question....is the term "redneck" a racist term?

or does an additional adjective need to be inserted before redneck..."stupid redneck, dumb redneck", in order for it to be a racist statement?

Depends on how it's used. I usually see it used in an ignorant, inappropriate way, as racial slurs are used. Though I haven't thought of it as racist since it seems to me to be a reference to people in the South. How about "southernist" - is that a word?

Not just the south but I think it refers to any rural area.

I hadn't thought of it that way, but good point.