Honor Killings
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Ankara, Turkey -Ignoring the pleas of his 14-year old daughter to spare her life, Mehmet Halitogullari pulled on a wire wrapped around her neck and strangled her - supposedly to restore the family's honor after she was kidnapped and raped... "I decided to kill her because our honor was dirtied," the newspaper Sabah quoted the father as saying. "I didn't listen to her pleas, I wrapped the wire around her neck and pulled at it until she died" (The Associated Press).
http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-agai ... id=1108230
Why isnt anyone protesting THIS?
http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-agai ... id=1108230
Why isnt anyone protesting THIS?
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Ummmm... they are. You got that from Amnesty International.
Hail, Hail!!!
On PJ.com, all you hear about is the poor Muslims being murdered by Americans and Jews.
I'm just pointing out the hypocracy of the young, uninformed, LEFT.
I'm just wondering... is there an opposing view to this? I think everyone is appalled by this type of thing... it's pretty much a one sided arguement.
I mean, I don't think you will find anyone here who is Pro-Honor killing. I don't think you would find many people anywhere in the U.S. who is Pro-Honor killing.
Hail, Hail!!!
It's gotta sound better than that. "Pro-choice", that's better.
I'm looking for someone on this site who is as ANTI-honor killing, as they are anti-semitic.
There's no balance.
Most, not all, people on this site are painfully biased and usually uneducated.
Sorry, but they are.
Religious (and non-religious) people who behave in an open-minded, progressive, benevolent fashion. At least, this is my take.
:roll:
based on your posts - i would say you are fairly ignorant and also a racist ... i don't use those terms lightly but i would suspect you garner some respect on this board if you weren't so inflammatory in your posts and if you wrote something somewhat intelligent ...
you are clearly a troll because all your posts are simply meant to bait people into non-sensical discussions ...
True. There is a difference between Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion.
Pro-Abortion means you are for the medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy.
Pro-Choice is a belief that it is not up to the state to decide about unwanted pregnancy, it is up to the individual. Choice being, carrying the pregnancy to term and raising the child, adopting out the child or terminating the pregnancy. Most Pro-Choice people hope for the acceptance or adoption path and abortion as the last resort... but, understand that the choice should ultimately be left to the woman... not us... not our government... not our church.
Hail, Hail!!!
I might seem like a troll to you, b/c you are not used to seeing conservative opinions on this site.
I am happy to engage you in a thoughtful debate, but you have already made a personal attack on here by labeling me a racist. Why do you feel that?
I am a defender of America, Israel, and any nation that wants peace and a freedom designed by the people that inhabit that nation. If by merely defending Israel, I am in your eyes, a racist- then you have shown yourself to be prejudiced already. Think about it.
There are plenty on here that rail and post relentlessly against Israel, and discount even credible news stories as "fabricated by Jews" when they don't support their opinions.
I am one who will defend this position. It is you liberals who resort to name calling when confronted w/ facts.
Is there an INTELLIGENT liberal who would like to make a reasonable point without the name-calling?
I hope that you are capable.
Well played. I see your point.
But in regards to these atrocities/ killings of women: If Islam is a religion of peace, why don't the leaders of Islam condemn these atrocities. It seems that we don't hear a word. Similar to 9/11- I saw videos of Muslims celebrating in other countries- cheering the innocent's murders.
What kind of religion cheers at the news of murdered women and children?
Has all of Islam been hijacked by radicals?
Is your argument here that many on this site are secret honor-killing fans or something?
I can't make sense of your arguments really.
That one case wasn't posted on this particular message board isn't that weird, since a lot of shit happens around the world that we don't specifically debate every case of.
Seems to me your flaming and spoiling for a counter-flaming to prove "liberals are anti-semitic pro-everything-arab/muslim/foreign and hating on america".
Yawn.
PS: Honor killings are horrible, and it's sad that there are people around that feel it is demanded of them to do such atrocities.
PPS: "Honor killings" in western countries are usually called "family tragedies". Main difference the murderer often killing himself as well....
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Well put, speaking as someone who has displayed a tendency to act like an ass myself in response to procovation. Its best not to fight fire with fire in this case.
That's a lot of ass.
Bigoted? I take as much offense as I should from that comment. Not that much.
Care to elaborate and site?
Your condescending attitude makes it hard to want to care.
I know you want to care.
These threads aren't about creating or discussing information, they have an ego-filled bullshit agenda. You didn't start these threads to discuss the topical situation but to expose a perceived bias on this board that goes back to the whole left vs. right thing. You should have started a single thread with the title "This board leans to the left" and given your reasons why... rather than using passive aggression towards those who you despise. I could have read that without laughing in disgust.
Haha ... Not so sure that rationalization vs. midbrain function generalizaton fits. :P Anyhow ...
Your Mom, I'm not taking your bait. You are transparent, I agree with what He Still Stands has said. Just say what you have to say and stop condescending, then you will find many people here will have a good debate with you. I just disagree with you on too many levels. I think people on here are intelligent and I find many of the discussions to be enlightening. You have called just about everyone uneducated and implied that you are better than them. Seriously, re-think you plan and you will get much, much more.
And it has to be passive, or the thin-skinned will report me.
"Despise" is not how I feel about the people on this site w/ different opinions. I actually enjoy the debate- and am thrilled if a more liberal person can actually engage that intelligently. It doesn't happen very often.
And I must say, your eloquent retreat was one of the most poetic withdrawals from academic discussion that Ive witnessed on this site- but a retreat nonetheless.
Is the left vs right "thing" tired for you? B/C those philosophies are directing the lives of every peson on this planet.
Fair enough.
I YIELD.
It's been tough trying to engage anyone in good debate- I figured I would be outnumbered here, as I realize that I am probably the only conservative PJ fan in the world, but I hadn't anticipated the veracity of personal attacks in response to differing opinions.
Guess I'm on the defensive.
I'll try to play nicer.
The "philosophy" of left v. right? It is a political system that has failed... some of us don't need to be "lead" but that's not an option in the voting booth. We can argue all day about it because you perceive me as being a leftist and you will disagree with anything I have to say because you are preconditioned to. Once you start believing in this sort of thing it breeds ignorance. And what the thinker thinks, the prover proves. Lets not label ourselves or others anymore and start from a place where we actually listen to each other rather than try to prove a point by winning an argument.
there have been plenty of conservative opinions on this board - many of which i greatly respect ... even those that seek to defend israeli actions in gaza ...
i label you a racist because of your inflammatory remarks related to muslims ... i also label you a troll because since you've joined this forum - the majority of your posts are these aggressive attacking comments on the MT ...
i do find it ironic that you would gripe about name-calling - have you read your own posts? ... you had two threads locked for that reason alone ...
I was a victim of poor economic conditions and social injustices.
Where's your compassion?