so who then?

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
with all this bush and obama bashing who do you guy's think did a good job as president...in our time and why, I liked Clinton (Slick Willy) I remember the economy being better with him in for 2 terms.

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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I actually liked Slick Willy as well ... He didn't do anything earth-shattering, but he kept our neighbor to the south afloat and didn't make any terrible errors on an international scale.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I liked Clinton for a time, until NAFTA and the gun ban. Never liked either Bush or Obama, that won't change. I'm really ready for a Libertarian/Constitutionalist.
  • BG44858
    BG44858 Posts: 25
    jimmy carter of course
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Dave
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    this guy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxogl5C6 ... re=related
    don't compete; coexist

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    I liked Clinton for a time, until NAFTA and the gun ban. Never liked either Bush or Obama, that won't change. I'm really ready for a Libertarian/Constitutionalist.
    ...
    Just to set the record straight and get the facts into the statement, NAFTA was the brainchild of President Ronald Reagan and the agreement was ratified during the G.H.W. Bush term.

    November 13, 1979
    While officially declaring his candidacy for President, Ronald Reagan proposes a “North American Agreement” which will produce “a North American continent in which the goods and people of the three countries will cross boundaries more freely.”

    January 1981
    President Ronald Reagan proposes a North American common market.

    December 17, 1992
    Official signing of NAFTA by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, US president George Bush, and Mexican president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, subject to its final approval by the federal Parliaments of the three countries.

    source: http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/integ/chro ... menu=integ
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    yeah Clinton was great, we didn't have 2 big wars, he was smarter and killed people through sanctions rather than military action...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    _outlaw wrote:
    yeah Clinton was great, we didn't have 2 big wars, he was smarter and killed people through sanctions rather than military action...

    Wow - talk about selective memory. Maybe you forget how he bombed eastern Europe ... mainly to take the pressure off himself and the Monica situation.

    I also believe his actions or lack thereof contribited a lot to 9/11.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    know1 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    yeah Clinton was great, we didn't have 2 big wars, he was smarter and killed people through sanctions rather than military action...

    Wow - talk about selective memory. Maybe you forget how he bombed eastern Europe ... mainly to take the pressure off himself and the Monica situation.

    I also believe his actions or lack thereof contribited a lot to 9/11.
    I was being sarcastic, but yeah I know about the Balkan war efforts.

    As for 9/11, every US president for the past couple decades up until George W Bush himself contributed to it.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    know1 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    yeah Clinton was great, we didn't have 2 big wars, he was smarter and killed people through sanctions rather than military action...

    Wow - talk about selective memory. Maybe you forget how he bombed eastern Europe ... mainly to take the pressure off himself and the Monica situation.

    I also believe his actions or lack thereof contribited a lot to 9/11.

    The airstrikes in the former Yugoslavia were part of a NATO operation, not a unilateral, unpopular war like Iraq was the second time around. There was also more than a little genocide going on there. The Balkans was not some sideshow diversion. A few of my in-laws actually had to escape from Bosnia to avoid winding up in a mass grave.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    yeah Clinton was great, we didn't have 2 big wars, he was smarter and killed people through sanctions rather than military action...

    Wow - talk about selective memory. Maybe you forget how he bombed eastern Europe ... mainly to take the pressure off himself and the Monica situation.

    I also believe his actions or lack thereof contribited a lot to 9/11.
    ...
    Selective memory? Did you select to forget about the bombardment of Milosovic's artillery upon civilian populations in the former Yugoslavia? The U.S. Naval F-18s and A-6s were the most capable resource to take out those artillery positions.
    But, yeah... I see your point. Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Cosmo wrote:
    Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.
    NERDS!
  • Stypo420
    Stypo420 Posts: 519
    I think Bill Clinton was the greatest republican president ever!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Dave Abruzzeze or however you spell it.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.
    ...
    Yes. But, we can use the rationalization, "Hey... at least we're not bombing anyone" and feel better about ourselves.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Cosmo wrote:
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.
    ...
    Yes. But, we can use the rationalization, "Hey... at least we're not bombing anyone" and feel better about ourselves.
    The only bombs we should be dropping on them are ones made of Aid and Food.
    NERDS!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Cosmo wrote:
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.
    ...
    Yes. But, we can use the rationalization, "Hey... at least we're not bombing anyone" and feel better about ourselves.
    or maybe we should use sanctions, since those work so well for North Korea and Cuba.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    South of Seattle wrote:

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.
    ...
    Yes. But, we can use the rationalization, "Hey... at least we're not bombing anyone" and feel better about ourselves.
    The only bombs we should be dropping on them are ones made of Aid and Food.
    i dont think you can fight off gangs of machete wielding psychos with a loaf of bread.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    South of Seattle wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Our bombing of their military positions was much worse than the ethnic cleansing going on at that time. We should have just sat it out and pretended that we didn't see it, huh?

    Like we're doing with Darfur right now.

    Like we've been doing with Palestine for how many years now??????
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    MrSmith wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    or maybe we should use sanctions, since those work so well for North Korea and Cuba.

    No No No, just keep bombing the shit out of them. They're arabs and Muslims. The world doesn't need them... :roll:

    I wonder what your position would be if YOU were born Muslim or arab and had 9-11 almost everyday in your country.....But it's ok man, keep bombing them cuz they're dirty Arabs/muslims....what's the definition of terrorism again?????
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