member of israeli knesset says ships were fired on BEFORE bo

Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
israeli ships fired and KILLED BEFORE boarding, says member of the israeli Parliament. (knesset)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ETS2_Ckd4
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  • Get a life dude.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    already have a pretty good one, yours on the other hand....it would seem from all the hate you post that you lead a sad existence and are lashing out so that you can feel powerful for one moment in your life.....
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    edited June 2010
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177261

    that link sums it up in many ways

    maybe before condemning countries people should find out all the facts first. I am not saying this makes anything that happened OK, but to say these were innocent aid workers is just flat out BS

    and then there is this:

    http://www.debka.com/article/8827/
    Post edited by hrd2imgn on
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    an american citizen speaks about her experience on the flotilla and the boarding (here's a brief spoiler - she says israel jammed their communications around 4am then BEFORE the helicopters came and dropped the commandos on zodiacs carrying armed commandos opened fire and threw concussion grenades then boarded and began beating people and shooting

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVKeGMaKKO0
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177261

    that link sums it up in many ways

    maybe before condemning countries people should find out all the facts first. I am not saying this makes anything that happened OK, but to say these were innocent aid workers is just flat out BS



    'The IDF Spokesperson's office on Wednesday afternoon released more new footage of Gaza flotilla activists attacking soldiers with a stun grenade, a box of plates, and water hoses. '

    it's pretty funny how the idf just keeps releasing small little segments, why not just release the entire operation from start to finish? instead they give brief little clips hoping to be the victim as they forcibly boarded boats in international waters and tried to take them over, most people would fight back

    not really sure that was a 'stun grenade' it didn't seem to stop the commandos one bit. anyway, how are you missing this point: israel has no right to forcibly board a flotilla in international waters and take control of it

    also, the other video on that site of the people on the flotilla firing guns at the idf.....give me a fucking break, the video SHOWS nothing! it shows a bunch of black, people yelling and subtitles that say they are being fired on with live ammunition. give me a fucking break
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    Did Israel fuck up big time by doing this in international waters, absolutely

    would it have made a difference if there or on the Israeli coast, probably not

    it is a bad situation no matter what perspective one wants to believe, I just find it irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel without knowing everything from both sides. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in the world?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Did Israel fuck up big time by doing this in international waters, absolutely

    would it have made a difference if there or on the Israeli coast, probably not

    it is a bad situation no matter what perspective one wants to believe, I just find it irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel without knowing everything from both sides. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in the world?


    then why is israel withholding the evidence!? why not just release video of the entire thing instead of little bits here and there which make them seem like the poor innocent victims. it's as if i see you driving in my city so i break into your car to try and take it to my house so i can search it to make sure you don't have anything to hurt me, are you gonna just say ok or fight back? israel basically boat jacked the flotilla, under any other circumstance this would be a crime.

    if israel is innocent the FULL video of the events would prove that. not only is forcibly boarding their vessels a crime but jamming all their communications and radars is as well. they attacked a vessel flying another sovereign nation's flag, israel can't just keep doing whatever the fuck it wants and face zero consequences, they need their ass spanked with sanctions and embargoes of their own

    if i was the suspect of a murder investigation and i confiscated all the footage of the murder and only give brief clips portraying it as self defense would that stand up? or do ya think the judge and lawyers would say give us the entire tape instead of these neat little segments?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Did Israel fuck up big time by doing this in international waters, absolutely

    would it have made a difference if there or on the Israeli coast, probably not

    it is a bad situation no matter what perspective one wants to believe, I just find it irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel without knowing everything from both sides. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in the world?
    you can't be innocent while still having blood on your hands. the fact is that atleast 10 people were killed by Israel, even if by accident, through irresponsible actions. Moreover, it's not as if Israel is some peaceful nation that did one fuck up - this action was the direct result, and just an example of, Israel's complete disregard for civilian life and international law, which has only been demonstrated through the past several decades of occupation and massacres committed by the state. The only reason it has been able to continue such criminal violations of the law is due to the failure of the international community, especially the US, to hold Israel accountable for its crimes. It is not irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel, it's about fucking time they stand up to Israel and say something, and I only hope that the US drops this sick behavior and follows suit with the rest of the international community. Unfortunately, there is a problem that runs deep within the US government that forces complete complicity in Israel's criminal activities.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177261

    that link sums it up in many ways

    maybe before condemning countries people should find out all the facts first. I am not saying this makes anything that happened OK, but to say these were innocent aid workers is just flat out BS

    and then there is this:

    http://www.debka.com/article/8827/

    Nothing at all Biased in the two Jewish websites you quoted. Nothing at all.
  • BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    JB210892 wrote:
    BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.

    What's up genius? Is there nothing on the cartoon channel today?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    JB210892 wrote:
    BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.
    i dont hate israel,or israelian people.i tour with them in 2 weeks,actually give my spare of berlin to a good friend from israel..this time israelian goverment did a mistake using bullets...there was in international waters or not,was knifes or not,was hamas or not,see this footage or another, is bullshit conversation
    this mistake cost lifes..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    JB210892 wrote:
    BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.
    i dont hate israel,or israelian people.i tour with them in 2 weeks,actually give my spare of berlin to a good friend from israel..this time israelian goverment did a mistake using bullets...there was in international waters or not,was knifes or not,was hamas or not,see this footage or another, is bullshit conversation
    this mistake cost lifes..

    Why are you trying to reason with this jackass Dmitris? Just leave him to wallow in own juices.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    JB210892 wrote:
    BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.


    please cite one 'jew-hating' thread i have made, just one, otherwise kindly shut the fuck up and remove yourself from my thread or post something relevant to the topic
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Did Israel fuck up big time by doing this in international waters, absolutely

    would it have made a difference if there or on the Israeli coast, probably not

    it is a bad situation no matter what perspective one wants to believe, I just find it irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel without knowing everything from both sides. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in the world?

    dude ... you attack a boat in the cloak of darkness with highly trained military personnel from military helicopters ... it's pretty obvious who the aggressors were in this particular situation ... the fact israel blacked out communication is also damning ...

    most of the world sees the blockade in gaza as immoral ... but with US support, no one can do anything about it ... this act of aggression is not an isolated event ... it is only the latest provocation from a nation that answers to no one especially the rule of humanity ...
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    polaris_x wrote:
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Did Israel fuck up big time by doing this in international waters, absolutely

    would it have made a difference if there or on the Israeli coast, probably not

    it is a bad situation no matter what perspective one wants to believe, I just find it irresponsible for countries to condemn Israel without knowing everything from both sides. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in the world?

    dude ... you attack a boat in the cloak of darkness with highly trained military personnel from military helicopters ... it's pretty obvious who the aggressors were in this particular situation ... the fact israel blacked out communication is also damning ...

    most of the world sees the blockade in gaza as immoral ... but with US support, no one can do anything about it ... this act of aggression is not an isolated event ... it is only the latest provocation from a nation that answers to no one especially the rule of humanity ...

    It's amazing that some on here see the Israelis as the victims here. Truly eye-opening how easily influenced some people are.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    It's amazing that some on here see the Israelis as the victims here. Truly eye-opening how easily influenced some people are.
    i hear ya King, but it is hard to think otherwise when the mainstream american press is allowing the IDF to play the victim card. every news report i have seen on cable, cbs evening news, and even my local news portrays the invaders as the victims...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    JB210892 wrote:
    BYRNZIE: You're still here after getting OWNED yesterday by OGRE? The most blatant anti-semite since Pepe shrinks into the abyss when confronted with the truth.

    Pepe: How many Jew-hating, terrorist-appeasing threads are you going to start today?


    Get your hate on somewhere else, jihadists.

    The ONLY ones being OWNED are our PUSSY-ASS leaders who have NO balls or hearts. But they play the game pretty good. They give Israel tons and tons of money EVERY year and the israeli lobby group cicyles it right back to them. I just dnt understand how prostitution is illegal cuz our leaders are BIGGEST WHORES in the world....sorry i've been a little quite, cuz I started a new job that has me working my ass off. But I'll chime in whenever I get a chance. Plus, byrnzie, pepe, truthy, TA and the king have been doing a pretty good job keeping everybody informed. It's nice to see the other side for a change since our media here is bombarding us with the PROPOGANDA machine!!! Ahh, tax payers money going to good waste....... :roll:
    And let's get rid of the race card here. Byrnzie and pepe aren't anti-Semites. I'm sure they have friends who are Jewish and Arabs from that REGION. Know what the word SEMITE is before you go labeling people...oh and by the way, my buddy at work used to be in the idf and I'm learning A LOT just from him....
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    And this isn't about religion or hating Jews. It's about the Israeli government. So let's keep them seperate.
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