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BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,836
edited December 2011 in The Porch
In the inside gatefold of "Lost Dogs," there is a photo of various master tapes. Several bear the names of songs we know and love. It's interesting to see earlier titles for some of these songs ("Pledge A Grievance"; "In Thin Air"; "God's Roll Dice").

Other tapes appear to contain songs that were never released (or finished), or perhaps earlier versions of songs that were later released, or maybe just titles that were completely changed (e.g., "Letter To The Dead" became "Sad"). Does anyone have any idea about the identity of any of these titles?:

"Change"

"Anything In Between"

"Your Face"

"Fallen"

"The Little Wind"

"The Big Wind"

"Morning Song"

"Thrill"
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  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    wow
    great post!!
    I am gonna check back for answers

    really curious about little wind and big wind
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    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    wow
    great post!!
    I am gonna check back for answers

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,836
    There's probably more there to be gleaned, maybe with a magnifying glass.

    Another thing I can see is "All I Want Is To Get Next To You," which must be a cover of The Police's "Next To You."
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  • JM187052JM187052 Posts: 69
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 917
    these were all listed on TSIS at one point-think they called it the big word and the little word and I think they had one called change. They figured Fallen was a studio version of falling down.
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 917
    JM187052 wrote:
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.


    Mystery is not PJ. Face of love and Daddy I swear is just Eddie. Believe you me is bad radio.
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  • JM187052JM187052 Posts: 69
    Fastrichie wrote:
    JM187052 wrote:
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.


    Mystery is not PJ. Face of love and Daddy I swear is just Eddie. Believe you me is bad radio.

    Nice to know, I just saw them on that site, just trying to help.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,836
    JM187052 wrote:
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.

    Just to be clear, the subject of the post wasn't Pearl Jam B-sides generally. It was specifically about the ones listed on the master tapes visible on the inside cover of "Lost Dogs."

    I'll check out gremmie.net for "Anything In Between." For the record, "Foldback," "Thunderclap" and "Harmony" are instrumentals that played under the video montages on "Touring Band 2000."
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  • JM187052JM187052 Posts: 69
    BF25394 wrote:
    JM187052 wrote:
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.

    Just to be clear, the subject of the post wasn't Pearl Jam B-sides generally. It was specifically about the ones listed on the master tapes visible on the inside cover of "Lost Dogs."

    I'll check out gremmie.net for "Anything In Between." For the record, "Foldback," "Thunderclap" and "Harmony" are instrumentals that played under the video montages on "Touring Band 2000."


    Yea I searched for those forever, finally found them on that site, they are quite beautiful
  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 917
    JM187052 wrote:
    Fastrichie wrote:
    JM187052 wrote:
    Anything in between is out there, check gremmie.net. I have a version with the lyrics really low.



    Also there's sunburn, wishing well, puzzles and games (original light years), mystery, believe you me, im still here (you can hear this on youtube), face of love, foldback, harmony, thunderclap, daddy i swear i declare.


    All can be found on the gremmie.net site.


    Mystery is not PJ. Face of love and Daddy I swear is just Eddie. Believe you me is bad radio.

    Nice to know, I just saw them on that site, just trying to help.


    Sorry JM187052-if it came across I was yelling at you!! Wasn't my intention!!! Just wanted people to know about those tracks.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • JM187052JM187052 Posts: 69
    it's cool, I had my suspicion about mystery, thanks!
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited December 2011
    http://fuelfriends.blogspot.com/2007/07 ... atman.html

    http://www.gremmie.net/patchwork/anything-in-between
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Sunburn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcOiBDF ... re=related
  • cent208cent208 Posts: 435
    great find, i'll look into into
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  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 1,170
    anything in between is one of my favorites. musically it kicks your face in. lyrically, maybe ed's improvving, but it fits the music. all the others listed are great, too. i found gremmie.net a few years back. i used to have a bootleg way back in 1994 called the five musketeers (also on gremmie.net/basement). i've always had my suspicions about mystery not being pj or eddie. it's currently not in my collection. everything else is. the ed stuff with other artists-face of love, devil doll, poor girl, etc- i made a mix of. great stuff. including everything lised on gremmie, that gives us about 12 studio records.
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  • Jerome230Jerome230 Posts: 903
    erocshifty wrote:
    anything in between is one of my favorites. musically it kicks your face in. lyrically, maybe ed's improvving, but it fits the music. all the others listed are great, too. i found gremmie.net a few years back. i used to have a bootleg way back in 1994 called the five musketeers (also on gremmie.net/basement). i've always had my suspicions about mystery not being pj or eddie. it's currently not in my collection. everything else is. the ed stuff with other artists-face of love, devil doll, poor girl, etc- i made a mix of. great stuff. including everything lised on gremmie, that gives us about 12 studio records.

    "Mystery" was by the band Blind Horse, which briefly included Greg Gilmore (MLB) on drums. Why it was included on so many 90's PJ bootlegs is beyond me...
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  • yoyoyoyo France Posts: 316
    edited December 2011
    I had the deciphering when lost dogs was release, and I found all theses ...

    New Light Years
    Compatibly
    Change Changed
    Mad
    Cool Jam
    Smoke Ring
    The Morning Song
    Thrill
    The Big Word
    The Little Word
    Fallen
    Your Face
    No Cursing
    Pledge A
    Change

    and on PJ20's CD, we could almost do the same, but it's more small !
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    1996-PARIS
    2000-PARIS
    2006-ANVERS-MARSEILLE-PARIS
    2007-LONDRES-NIJMEGEN-WERCHTER
    2008-ED SOLO-LOS ANGELES1-LOS ANGELES2
    2009-LONDRES
    2010-DUBLIN-ARRAS
    2012-AMSTERDAM1-ARRAS-STOCKHOLM-OSLO-COPENHAGUE
    2014-MILAN
    2017-ED SOLO-AMSTERDAM1
    2018-ROME
    2022-PARIS-AMSTERDAM1(Canceled)-AMSTERDAM2
    2024-BERLIN1-BERLIN2-BARCELONE1-BARCELONE2
  • UKpearljammerUKpearljammer Bath, UK Posts: 910
    Falling down!!! Maybe that's Fallen?
    My PJ shows:
    London 28/10/96, Las Vegas 11/7/98, London 29/5/00, Nurnburg 11/6/00, Prague 14/6/00, Salzburg 18/6/00, Verona 20/6/00, Milan 22/6/00, Zurich 23/6/00, New York 8-9/7/03, Boston 11/7/03, Reading Festival 27/8/06, Shepards Bush 11/8/09, Berlin 15/8/09, Manchester 17/8/09, London 18/8/09, Dublin 22/6/10, Belfast 23/6/10, London (HRC) 25/6/10, Alpine Valley (PJ20) 3-4/9/11, Manchester 20-21/6/12, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14 To be continued....
  • yoyoyoyo France Posts: 316
    surely !
    1996-PARIS
    2000-PARIS
    2006-ANVERS-MARSEILLE-PARIS
    2007-LONDRES-NIJMEGEN-WERCHTER
    2008-ED SOLO-LOS ANGELES1-LOS ANGELES2
    2009-LONDRES
    2010-DUBLIN-ARRAS
    2012-AMSTERDAM1-ARRAS-STOCKHOLM-OSLO-COPENHAGUE
    2014-MILAN
    2017-ED SOLO-AMSTERDAM1
    2018-ROME
    2022-PARIS-AMSTERDAM1(Canceled)-AMSTERDAM2
    2024-BERLIN1-BERLIN2-BARCELONE1-BARCELONE2
  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 1,170
    Jerome230 wrote:
    erocshifty wrote:
    anything in between is one of my favorites. musically it kicks your face in. lyrically, maybe ed's improvving, but it fits the music. all the others listed are great, too. i found gremmie.net a few years back. i used to have a bootleg way back in 1994 called the five musketeers (also on gremmie.net/basement). i've always had my suspicions about mystery not being pj or eddie. it's currently not in my collection. everything else is. the ed stuff with other artists-face of love, devil doll, poor girl, etc- i made a mix of. great stuff. including everything lised on gremmie, that gives us about 12 studio records.

    "Mystery" was by the band Blind Horse, which briefly included Greg Gilmore (MLB) on drums. Why it was included on so many 90's PJ bootlegs is beyond me...
    thank you for putting that to rest 16 years later! it never sounded pj or eddie enough for me. i knew that hold your head up was mlb or malfunkshun. the ed/doors songs on that mix suck quality wise. i had another bootleg back then called ultra rare trax that had the soundboards. i also had new songs. that was the first time i'd heard hold me or hard to imagine. i'm so glad gremmie.net is out there.
    "It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014 
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