Netanyahu: World 'hypocritical' for condemning raid

Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
what world does this guy live on???

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... d-1.293815

Netanyahu: World 'hypocritical' for condemning Gaza flotilla raid
In first address to nation, Netanyahu says had Turkish-flagged ship breached blockade, so could hundreds of vessels carrying weapons.

By Barak Ravid and Haaretz Service
Tags: Gaza flotilla
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday defended the Israel Navy's raid of a pro-Palestinian convoy en route to the Gaza Strip earlier this week, in his first address to the nation regarding the botched operation which left nine people dead and several more wounded.

Netanyahu accused international critics of "hypocrisy" and declared that Israel would continue to blockade the Hamas-run Palestinian enclave, saying that to lift the embargo would turn it into a base for Iranian missiles that would threaten both Israel and Europe.

"Iran is continuing to smuggle weapons into Gaza," said Netanyahu in a televised address. "It is our obligation to prevent these weapons from being brought in by land and sea. The previous government understood this and imposed a closure."

"The goal of the flotilla was to breach [the closure] and not to bring goods, as we would have allowed them to do," said Netanyahu. "If the blockade had been broken, dozens and hundreds more ships carrying weapons could have come."

Netanyahu, who canceled his trip to Washington and a meeting with President Barack Obama due to the raid, declared that Israel had no opposition to seeing humanitarian aid brought into the Gaza Strip.

But Hamas' growing armament was a cause for concern and a crucial reason to leave the blockade in place, said the prime minister. Without a blockade and intense inspection of every ship nearing the area, said Netanyahu, "Gaza will turn into an Iranian port."

Nanyahu told his political-security cabinet during a special session on Tuesday that international condemnation would not stop Israel's naval blockade of the Gaza Strip.

The raid of the Turkish-flagged ship awakened a storm of criticism among Israel's friends and foes alike, leading many members of the United Nations Security Council - including Britain - to call on Israel to lift its years-long siege of the Hamas-ruled coastal territory.

At a special meeting convened in the wake of the raid, Netanyahu told his ministers that the blockade was still necessary to prevent weapons from being smuggled into the Gaza Strip.

"We know from the experience of Operation Cast Lead that the weapons entering Gaza are being turned against our civilians," Netanyahu said, referring to Israel's three-week offensive on the Gaza Strip that ended in January 2009.

"Gaza is a terror state funded by the Iranians, and therefore we must try to prevent any weapons from being brought into Gaza by air, sea and land," he said.

Netanyahu acknowledged that militants were still capable of smuggling weapons in via tunnels from Egypt, but emphasized that the large amounts of weapons that could be brought by sea made the threat a completely different affair.

"On the Francop ship alone we confiscated some 200 tons of weapons being smuggled to Hezbollah," the prime minister said, in reference to the Antiguan-flagged ship Israel intercepted off the coast of Cyprus in November 2009.

"Opening a naval route to Gaza will present an enormous danger to the security of our citizens," said Netanyahu. "Therefore, we will stand firm on our policy of a naval blockade and of inspecting incoming ships."

"It's true that there is international pressure and criticism of this policy, but [the world] must understand that it is crucial to preserving Israel's security and the right of the State of Israel to defend itself."
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i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758

    But Hamas' growing armament was a cause for concern and a crucial reason to leave the blockade in place, said the prime minister. Without a blockade and intense inspection of every ship nearing the area, said Netanyahu, "Gaza will turn into an Iranian port."



    "Gaza is a terror state funded by the Iranians, and therefore we must try to prevent any weapons from being brought into Gaza by air, sea and land," he said.


    so, in other words it doesn't matter if it's hamas or some other party in power, gaza will always be an iranian stronghold?

    and i'm not really clear on how the world is hypocritical to condemn this action
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    Im ashamed of the cowardly response from the British government here. Israel is a terror to the whole region with its actions. They are no better than any of the fundamental religions.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i am not buying netanyahu's lies. the rest of the world is not buying them either, unless you want to count the leaders of the US and the rest of the usual suspects...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic. Other aid ships have made it in the past.... where is all this doom and gloom? Did Israel crumble? No.

    But then again.... Israel has no credibility anymore. Netanyahu can say what he wants, it's all hot air. Unfortunately, it goes the other way as well. The international community can express outrage, demand independent enquiries, etc. Israel doesn't listen and doesn't give a shit about what others say.
  • Gimmesometruth27
    Pepe
    phil the hip:

    Quite the thread of incendiary political debate you've inspired here. Wow.

    Let's recap: the Brits are the cowards. the Israelis are the terrorists. Hamas is just "good people".

    Typical blather spewed by the truly uninformed.

    NOTE: Rolling Stone is NOT a news magazine, despite what Sean Penn says.

    Undereducated and Anti-semitic is no way to go through life son.

    The discriminatory/prejudiced Europeans on this site need no introduction.
    They've learned nothing since the 1930's.

    Later Haters.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    ooOOoo a troll!!!! :mrgreen:

    'bye!
  • Not a troll. Just an educated lifelong Pearl Jam fan who disagrees with the band on just about everything political, but still admires their tenacity, and loves scaring the pants off stone-throwing libtard snipers who sit around on the America-bashing, capitalist-hating, common sense-free, liberal bath-house chat rooms of Pearljam.com and whine about, and misspell the names of, elected officials that they were too stoned to go vote for or against in the first place, while regurgitating the most recent drug-induced politically opinionated scribblings of the latest NYU Journalism grad to hop on the Rolling Stone payroll, hoping the other drones that come here (of all places) for news won't have read the issue yet so they can log back in later to beat off while reading the replies to the replies of their replies.

    REDROCK said: "A troll! Uh-oh! Bye!"

    You should join the French Army.

    Your tendencies toward cowardice, anti-semitism, and appeasement/collaboration would serve you well there.

    NOTE: I won't be waiting for a reply- because I WORK for a living.

    Deuces.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    JB210892 wrote:

    You should join the French Army.

    Your tendencies toward cowardice, anti-semitism, and appeasement/collaboration would serve you well there..

    Would you care to explain yourself here? Might derail the thread for a bit but I would really like to know what you mean by this.

    Cowardice? Anti-semitism? Collaboration? Are you still talking about the past (WWII as you were mentioning the 30s)?

    Awww... you think you're 'scaring the pants off' people. How sweet.

    OK... I'm done with you. It was fun while it lasted. Have a good day at work. :mrgreen:
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    JB210892 wrote:
    Gimmesometruth27
    Pepe
    phil the hip:

    Quite the thread of incendiary political debate you've inspired here. Wow.

    Let's recap: the Brits are the cowards. the Israelis are the terrorists. Hamas is just "good people".

    Typical blather spewed by the truly uninformed.

    NOTE: Rolling Stone is NOT a news magazine, despite what Sean Penn says.

    Undereducated and Anti-semitic is no way to go through life son.

    The discriminatory/prejudiced Europeans on this site need no introduction.
    They've learned nothing since the 1930's.

    Later Haters.

    I at no point in my life have I believed that Hamas are just the good people. Israel are treating Palistinians like dogs and they respond in a mannor which is not good for anyone. But Israel has got to take responsibilty for its actions.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    redrock wrote:
    JB210892 wrote:

    You should join the French Army.

    Your tendencies toward cowardice, anti-semitism, and appeasement/collaboration would serve you well there..

    Would you care to explain yourself here? Might derail the thread for a bit but I would really like to know what you mean by this.

    Cowardice? Anti-semitism? Collaboration? Are you still talking about the past (WWII as you were mentioning the 30s)?

    Awww... you think you're 'scaring the pants off' people. How sweet.

    OK... I'm done with you. It was fun while it lasted. Have a good day at work. :mrgreen:


    i don't understand why he keeps bringing up rolling stone, the article i posted was from haaretz, an israeli newspaper, not rolling stone and what leader's name was misspelled?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Israel is only three sides of the 3 year-old blockade of GAZA.

    Which ARAB, MUSLIM nation has maintained the crucial fourth side of that blockade for over three years?
    More importantly: Why?

    Once you answer this question, you've opened the door to a deeper understanding of the situation.

    Thoughts?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i answered you in the thread you started asking the same thing, i will not answer it again, especially when you didn't answer my questions above.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    JB210892 wrote:
    Israel is only three sides of the 3 year-old blockade of GAZA.

    Which ARAB, MUSLIM nation has maintained the crucial fourth side of that blockade for over three years?
    More importantly: Why?

    Once you answer this question, you've opened the door to a deeper understanding of the situation.

    Thoughts?

    I think you maybe think that we all believe Palestine to be blameless here and thats not the case. Egypt holds a massive blockade for security no doubt but I am not angry with them or Israel for defending themselves but the actions over this last week are disproportionate to what they were faced with.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    philthehip wrote:
    JB210892 wrote:
    Israel is only three sides of the 3 year-old blockade of GAZA.

    Which ARAB, MUSLIM nation has maintained the crucial fourth side of that blockade for over three years?
    More importantly: Why?

    Once you answer this question, you've opened the door to a deeper understanding of the situation.

    Thoughts?

    I think you maybe think that we all believe Palestine to be blameless here and thats not the case. Egypt holds a massive blockade for security no doubt but I am not angry with them or Israel for defending themselves but the actions over this last week are disproportionate to what they were faced with.
    a superpower armed neighbor tends to have influence in the region.


    btw Egypt opened their borders. like the rest of the world they can see Israeli brutality for what it is
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    philthehip wrote:
    Egypt holds a massive blockade for security no doubt ....

    Not just that. Their special 'status' with Israel paved the way for billions from the US. Should Egypt not collaborate with Israel, the money goes. Financial incentive.
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    redrock wrote:
    philthehip wrote:
    Egypt holds a massive blockade for security no doubt ....

    Not just that. Their special 'status' with Israel paved the way for billions from the US. Should Egypt not collaborate with Israel, the money goes. Financial incentive.

    Yes that is true also. I cant wait till the tour :lol:
  • Commy:

    Your user name is Commy.

    Bet your happy w/ the direction of our country.

    Read a lot of Zinn, do ya?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    JB210892 wrote:
    Commy:

    Your user name is Commy.

    Bet your happy w/ the direction of our country.

    Read a lot of Zinn, do ya?


    if you have a crush on commy and want to know all his interests please pm him and don't use my thread for it
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    JB210892 wrote:
    Commy:

    Your user name is Commy.

    Bet your happy w/ the direction of our country.

    Read a lot of Zinn, do ya?

    I must leave this thread now because you are very rude and a little pathetic I must say. Let people have their views. You show very little intelligence when all you do is try to provoke. Goodbye
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    JB210892 wrote:
    Commy:

    Your user name is Commy.

    Bet your happy w/ the direction of our country.

    Read a lot of Zinn, do ya?
    wow, 12 posts and 12 insults...nice work....

    :roll: :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Pepe: you have like 25 threads. And you copied mine on Gaza Blockade.

    It's 500 libtards against one American.
    And everyone is crying.

    As long as I'm bashing Jews, Christians, conservatives, bush, Cheney, and America, everyone on here is friendly.

    Bet ur parties are lame.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    JB210892 wrote:
    Pepe: you have like 25 threads. And you copied mine on Gaza Blockade.

    It's 500 libtards against one American.
    And everyone is crying.

    As long as I'm bashing Jews, Christians, conservatives, bush, Cheney, and America, everyone on here is friendly.

    Bet ur parties are lame.

    yawn....
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i am not buying netanyahu's lies. the rest of the world is not buying them either, unless you want to count the leaders of the US and the rest of the usual suspects...

    well considering the US had been pretending for 50 years that cuba doesnt exist.....
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    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    JB210892 wrote:
    Israel is only three sides of the 3 year-old blockade of GAZA.

    Which ARAB, MUSLIM nation has maintained the crucial fourth side of that blockade for over three years?
    More importantly: Why?

    Once you answer this question, you've opened the door to a deeper understanding of the situation.

    Thoughts?

    Simple. The Egyptian leadership is corrupt and is condemned by most of the Arab world. As for Egypts's blocking of the southern border opening a door 'to a deeper understanding of the problem', this is just bullshit, and an attempt to divert attention from the root cause of the conflict and the blockade.

    Still, nice try.


    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 15,00.html
    '...Egypt, which depends on billions of dollars of annual aid from the U.S., says its actions in Gaza are driven by its own national interest....Mubarak is a staunch supporter of the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, and views Hamas as an ally of his own most feared opponents, the banned Muslim Brotherhood.

    But although Egypt's compliance in the siege has been widely denounced in much of the Arab world and in Turkey, the Egyptian public remains largely oblivious. That's because the government has successfully persuaded much of its citizenry that the blame for Egyptian-Gazan tension lies with Hamas and Israel, even mobilizing state-funded religious authorities to criticize Hamas and give their blessing to Egyptian security measures on the Gaza border.

    Hala Mustafa, editor of the state-funded Al-Ahram Quarterly Democracy Review, says Egypt's role in the blockade is based on its obligations under its peace agreement with Israel. "In this accord, Egypt has to watch its border and should not allow any third party to cross the border in order to attack Israel."

    "From the reaction in the Arab press, and from people in the Arab world, there is no justification for what Egypt is doing [regarding Gaza]," says Marina Ottaway, Director of the Middle East program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. But it's unlikely to mean much in current domestic politics. "Essentially, it's just one more sign of the differences that exist between government actions and public opinion, but I do not expect any dramatic repercussions."

    ...But for an already unpopular regime, an unpopular approach to Gaza may still be a step onto ever thinning ice.'

  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... pt-dilemma

    'Caught between the need to appease growing public anger at Israel's actions and the necessity of maintaining his close relationship with the Jewish state on the other – a friendship which opens the door to more than $2bn of American aid annually, money on which many analysts believe Mubarak's unpopular regime depends upon for survival – the Egyptian government has found itself incapable of living up to its own hype.'
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