While we were all partying tonight....

__ Posts: 6,651
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
a 13-year-old girl in Guatemala was giving birth to a child conceived by rape. My friend, who delivered her, said the girl was traumatized & didn't want to hold the baby.

Stories like these always put my life in perspective, and remind me that life is hard - in ways that most of us could never really understand - and that we should never judge the experiences or decisions of others..... and that there is still much work to be done in this world.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Fuck. Now she just told me that she also delivered the baby of a 15-year-old rape victim today in this rural Guatemalan village were abortion is illegal. (And there have been no consequences for the 17 & 18-year-olds who raped these girls.) :cry:
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Sad......and we think that our lives are difficult.

    It is because of situations like this that I am pro-choice.....

    More importantly...where is the justice behind this all.......these are just kids on both sides of the spectrum, sad indeed
  • WindNoSailWindNoSail Posts: 580
    scb wrote:
    a 13-year-old girl in Guatemala was giving birth to a child conceived by rape. My friend, who delivered her, said the girl was traumatized & didn't want to hold the baby.

    Stories like these always put my life in perspective, and remind me that life is hard - in ways that most of us could never really understand - and that we should never judge the experiences or decisions of others..... and that there is still much work to be done in this world.
    :cry:

    I am sure she's scared, how could you not be at 13 with a baby. I guess theres alot to think about on this one, but I would only point out that the baby had nothing to do with this...he/she is completely innocent in all of this. How the mother deals with the situation would be a very important question to ask. Adoption sound like the best option.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    WindNoSail wrote:
    scb wrote:
    a 13-year-old girl in Guatemala was giving birth to a child conceived by rape. My friend, who delivered her, said the girl was traumatized & didn't want to hold the baby.

    Stories like these always put my life in perspective, and remind me that life is hard - in ways that most of us could never really understand - and that we should never judge the experiences or decisions of others..... and that there is still much work to be done in this world.
    :cry:

    I am sure she's scared, how could you not be at 13 with a baby. I guess theres alot to think about on this one, but I would only point out that the baby had nothing to do with this...he/she is completely innocent in all of this. How the mother deals with the situation would be a very important question to ask. Adoption sound like the best option.

    I believe the babies will be raised by their grandmothers. I'm not sure how acceptable adoption is in this community/culture. I agree that the baby had nothing to do with it & is innocent. I would add, though, that the little girls are also innocent - and have now been traumatized a second time.
  • WindNoSailWindNoSail Posts: 580
    scb wrote:
    WindNoSail wrote:
    scb wrote:
    a 13-year-old girl in Guatemala was giving birth to a child conceived by rape. My friend, who delivered her, said the girl was traumatized & didn't want to hold the baby.

    Stories like these always put my life in perspective, and remind me that life is hard - in ways that most of us could never really understand - and that we should never judge the experiences or decisions of others..... and that there is still much work to be done in this world.
    :cry:

    I am sure she's scared, how could you not be at 13 with a baby. I guess theres alot to think about on this one, but I would only point out that the baby had nothing to do with this...he/she is completely innocent in all of this. How the mother deals with the situation would be a very important question to ask. Adoption sound like the best option.

    I believe the babies will be raised by their grandmothers. I'm not sure how acceptable adoption is in this community/culture. I agree that the baby had nothing to do with it & is innocent. I would add, though, that the little girls are also innocent - and have now been traumatized a second time.

    Agreed.
    HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
  • That's horrible :( :(

    I don't know a whole lot about Guatemala, but I have heard before of the rampant violence against women there - not just rape, but beating and homicide - that goes un-investigated and un-punished. When we see this in Afghanistan, for example, we can blame it on religious fundamentalism. But what is going on in Guatemala?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    That's horrible :( :(

    I don't know a whole lot about Guatemala, but I have heard before of the rampant violence against women there - not just rape, but beating and homicide - that goes un-investigated and un-punished. When we see this in Afghanistan, for example, we can blame it on religious fundamentalism. But what is going on in Guatemala?

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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Seems to me the bigger issue here is the violence and rape against women (and not prosecuting those responsible) rather than pro- or anti-abortion.

    Very sad nonetheless. Most of us - probably all of us - on this board are so privileged and blessed compared to so many in the world.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
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  • know1 wrote:
    Seems to me the bigger issue here is the violence and rape against women (and not prosecuting those responsible) rather than pro- or anti-abortion.

    Very sad nonetheless. Most of us - probably all of us - on this board are so privileged and blessed compared to so many in the world.

    this is exactly the point I try to make to my wife whenever she lusts after the money that some of our friends have. We have all we could ever need. So do our two daughters. Are we high on the class list? Not even close. Probably lower middle class. And that's still light years richer than 95% of the world, so I ain't complaining.

    What makes a person commit such a horrible crime? I just don't get it. I know we are animals by nature, but jesus, be a human.
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  • GTFLYGIRLGTFLYGIRL NewYork Posts: 760
    Interestingly, this reminds me of the only two people I ever knew from Guatemala. At the last group home I ran (before my current position) there were two girls who came to stay with us for two *one-week* stays. They came to NY twice to testify against the minister who sexually abused them (at ages 10 & 12) while they were visiting family in New York. More innocent young girls having their innocence robbed from them. :evil:

    *ps- the minister was not Guatemalan. He was not Latino. He was a WMA... born and bred.*

    *edit* now that i'm thinking about the case... he had only molested one of the girls... not that it matters... just wanted to state the correct facts.... thanks
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