Death threats to politicians up... wtf is wrong with people?

Byrnzie

blackredyellow wrote:

When agents showed up at the man’s door, they asked him why he’d threatened to kill Shuler.

“I was trying to work the political scene,” he said.

I couldn't help laughing when I read that.

Eliot Rosewater

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I wish I could be more specific of what is being destroyed or taken away but to different people it's different thing's,for me it's just tax's and the cost of living out here in SD along with job out sourcing it's turning into a day to day struggle to stay in California for a lot of people like myself that have deep roots here...so people get angry wrong or right they feel their right,also I have noticed the most people don't like change,they like the way their life was and don't want change forced on them so they get angry.

Godfather.

if you can not name one specific thing then you clearly are speculating. you mention taxes....are you one of the lucky weathiest 5% that had a tax increase last year? if not i am sure you actually had a tax cut like 95% of the rest of us...california is fucked because of your state government, not the federal one. who bails california out when you have a wildfire or earthquake? the federal government. and outsourcing jobs is NOT the federal government, it is the CORPORATIONS who ship the jobs overseas for cheep labor to pad their bottom line...these morons do not realize they are threatening the wrong people...i could give several examples of this but it is not worth my time.

1. AT LEAST 105,117* Iraqi civilians' lives *(documented deaths only - we know that reasonable estimates are much higher)
2. AT LEAST 4400 U.S. Soldiers' lives
3. The civil liberties of hundreds of millions of humans
4. Over a trillion U.S. dollars

There are four specific things that have been destroyed. While there are many more, at least these four are absolutely unarguable yet I have a feeling you'll still give it a shot.

gimmesometruth27

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

1. AT LEAST 105,117* Iraqi civilians' lives *(documented deaths only - we know that reasonable estimates are much higher)
2. AT LEAST 4400 U.S. Soldiers' lives
3. The civil liberties of hundreds of millions of humans
4. Over a trillion U.S. dollars

There are four specific things that have been destroyed. While there are many more, at least these four are absolutely unarguable yet I have a feeling you'll still give it a shot.

so OBAMA and every member of this congress caused all of this? where were you in 2002 and 2003 when BUSH and HIS REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE AND SENATE put us on the train track that resulted in those 4 points you make? yes obama and the current congress have continued it, but they did not cause it. we are drawing down in iraq so that is a start. the rest of it is just fucked...

and i seriously doubt that the people threatening congress members are doing so because of any of the above mentioned points...

Eliot Rosewater

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

1. AT LEAST 105,117* Iraqi civilians' lives *(documented deaths only - we know that reasonable estimates are much higher)
2. AT LEAST 4400 U.S. Soldiers' lives
3. The civil liberties of hundreds of millions of humans
4. Over a trillion U.S. dollars

There are four specific things that have been destroyed. While there are many more, at least these four are absolutely unarguable yet I have a feeling you'll still give it a shot.

so OBAMA and every member of this congress caused all of this? where were you in 2002 and 2003 when BUSH and HIS REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE AND SENATE put us on the train track that resulted in those 4 points you make? yes obama and the current congress have continued it, but they did not cause it. we are drawing down in iraq so that is a start. the rest of it is just fucked...

and i seriously doubt that the people threatening congress members are doing so because of any of the above mentioned points...

Ummm..one of the examples in the article specifically says the guy threatened an official because he felt he had "blood on his hands" from the war.

While Obama claims to have been against the war from the start, many of his pals voted for it. And if he were so against it, why are we still there? It certainly seems that if he were against the war he would end it.

This has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. Many who voted for the war, supported the war and STILL support the war are still in office. And those who are new to office since this shit began are doing little to nothing to try and end it.

gimmesometruth27

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

Ummm..one of the examples in the article specifically says the guy threatened an official because he felt he had "blood on his hands" from the war.

While Obama claims to have been against the war from the start, many of his pals voted for it. And if he were so against it, why are we still there? It certainly seems that if he were against the war he would end it.

This has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. Many who voted for the war, supported the war and STILL support the war are still in office. And those who are new to office since this shit began are doing little to nothing to try and end it.

so this justifies threats of violence to those in office?

if you are going to answer for godfather will you please answer what people have lost or had destroyed in this country, and what taxes have to do with it?

Eliot Rosewater

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

Ummm..one of the examples in the article specifically says the guy threatened an official because he felt he had "blood on his hands" from the war.

While Obama claims to have been against the war from the start, many of his pals voted for it. And if he were so against it, why are we still there? It certainly seems that if he were against the war he would end it.

This has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. Many who voted for the war, supported the war and STILL support the war are still in office. And those who are new to office since this shit began are doing little to nothing to try and end it.

so this justifies threats of violence to those in office?

if you are going to answer for godfather will you please answer what people have lost or had destroyed in this country, and what taxes have to do with it?

First of all, I'm not answering for Godfather. This is a message board. If you want a private conversation with him then please us PM.

Secondly, I believe I already answered your question of what has been lost or destroyed in this country. In addition to my previous response, and if you want to know how this impacts me on a personal level - I pay taxes in the U.S. Those taxes are being used for mass killing, illegal spying, illegal holding of prisoners, illegal interrogating, illegal torturing. I feel invested in this country. I pay taxes. I vote. I give a shit. It angers me. It confuses me. And most of all it saddens me.

If you ask me, some of these people are lucky to just receive threats. Many of them are criminals who have committed heinous crimes against humanity.

Pepe Silvia

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

Ummm..one of the examples in the article specifically says the guy threatened an official because he felt he had "blood on his hands" from the war.

While Obama claims to have been against the war from the start, many of his pals voted for it. And if he were so against it, why are we still there? It certainly seems that if he were against the war he would end it.

This has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. Many who voted for the war, supported the war and STILL support the war are still in office. And those who are new to office since this shit began are doing little to nothing to try and end it.

so this justifies threats of violence to those in office?

if you are going to answer for godfather will you please answer what people have lost or had destroyed in this country, and what taxes have to do with it?

First of all, I'm not answering for Godfather. This is a message board. If you want a private conversation with him then please us PM.

Secondly, I believe I already answered your question of what has been lost or destroyed in this country. In addition to my previous response, and if you want to know how this impacts me on a personal level - I pay taxes in the U.S. Those taxes are being used for mass killing, illegal spying, illegal holding of prisoners, illegal interrogating, illegal torturing. I feel invested in this country. I pay taxes. I vote. I give a shit. It angers me. It confuses me. And most of all it saddens me.

If you ask me, some of these people are lucky to just receive threats. Many of them are criminals who have committed heinous crimes against humanity.

was obama really ever against the war?? i guess it depends on who he was talking to....when he spoke to liberals he called it a dumb war, when he spoke to conservatives he said the main reason he was against the war in iraq was because we weren't finished in afghanistan yet but if it's a dumb war isn't if we were done or not in afghanistan a moot point?

Eliot Rosewater

No, Obama hasn't ever really been against the war. His actions have clearly proven that. But he loves to say that he was against it, even though he wasn't in office when it originally began. I think he's a piece of fucking shit.

inmytree

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

so this justifies threats of violence to those in office?

some people can justify anything...

as to wtf is wrong with people?

answer: lots...just read this thread...

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

Ummm..one of the examples in the article specifically says the guy threatened an official because he felt he had "blood on his hands" from the war.

While Obama claims to have been against the war from the start, many of his pals voted for it. And if he were so against it, why are we still there? It certainly seems that if he were against the war he would end it.

This has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. Many who voted for the war, supported the war and STILL support the war are still in office. And those who are new to office since this shit began are doing little to nothing to try and end it.

so this justifies threats of violence to those in office?

if you are going to answer for godfather will you please answer what people have lost or had destroyed in this country, and what taxes have to do with it?

it all comes down to a few thing's, money freedom and keeping what is yours.
to many people the gov. fed and state have taken their right to earn and keep,they don't want to pay for the welfare and well being for someone that will not work to take care of them selfs "spreading the wealth ? whats that all about ?
you may not agree or even understand, but stuff like this; when I was a kid we had a neighbor who was building a small block wall in front of his house when the city came up to him and asked for a permit and if he did not have it he would be fined and forced to remove the wall.the guy got pissed and told the city guy "I fought in wwII and I've bought and paid for this hose it's mine get the hell off my property !.. city fined him and took down his small wall.

just things like this piss off people,they feel they are being screwed by the gov.

Godfather.

unsung

I'm not for actual violence against anyone but I do believe politicians should fear the citizens. By fear I mean we need to hold the violators responsible and vote them out.

Godfather.

unsung wrote:

I'm not for actual violence against anyone but I do believe politicians should fear the citizens. By fear I mean we need to hold the violators responsible and vote them out.

me too but some feel the system is corrupted and act out their anger.
it's too bad that this stuff happens, corrupted politician's help to bring this non-sence on them self's and then wonder why it's happening...IMO.

Godfather.

Pepe Silvia

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I wish I could be more specific of what is being destroyed or taken away but to different people it's different thing's,for me it's just tax's and the cost of living out here in SD along with job out sourcing it's turning into a day to day struggle to stay in California for a lot of people like myself that have deep roots here...so people get angry wrong or right they feel their right,also I have noticed the most people don't like change,they like the way their life was and don't want change forced on them so they get angry.

Godfather.

if you can not name one specific thing then you clearly are speculating. you mention taxes....are you one of the lucky weathiest 5% that had a tax increase last year? if not i am sure you actually had a tax cut like 95% of the rest of us...california is fucked because of your state government, not the federal one. who bails california out when you have a wildfire or earthquake? the federal government. and outsourcing jobs is NOT the federal government, it is the CORPORATIONS who ship the jobs overseas for cheep labor to pad their bottom line...these morons do not realize they are threatening the wrong people...i could give several examples of this but it is not worth my time.

1. AT LEAST 105,117* Iraqi civilians' lives *(documented deaths only - we know that reasonable estimates are much higher)
2. AT LEAST 4400 U.S. Soldiers' lives
3. The civil liberties of hundreds of millions of humans
4. Over a trillion U.S. dollars

There are four specific things that have been destroyed. While there are many more, at least these four are absolutely unarguable yet I have a feeling you'll still give it a shot.

i'm pretty sure over 5,400 US soldiers have died in Iraq and Afghanistan