Terrible MSG1 review in the NY Post

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edited May 2010 in Given To Fly (live)
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Limp show could have been Vedder

Had Pearl Jam played Thursday's Madison Square Garden concert at a smaller hall, the band's energy -- and the dynamic stage presence of frontman Eddie Vedder -- might have saved the day. But they played the arena as if it were a club -- and the fans who filled the Garden paid the price.
First, there was no video projection system. From the back wall of the Garden to the lip of the stage, it's almost a quarter-mile, so the majority of the audience was denied any real visual detail. Did Vedder contort his kisser into the ugly face when he sang "Severed Hand" early in the set? You'd have to ask somebody who sat up front; even the eagle-eyed would have a hard time confirming it was actually Vedder up there.

The band's sound system was another problem. The acoustics weren't just a little muddy, they were the Mississippi. Lyrics were mostly indiscernible during the set, which ran for more than 30 songs.
It wasn't so bad on tunes such as "Jeremy" and "Leash," two of the band's best-known numbers. On those, what we couldn't hear with our ears we heard in our heads. But on the less familiar, deep-vault cuts, Vedder's lyrics were little more than garbled jibber-jabber, more noise than poetry.
Other than the shirtless, drunk, fat guy in my far-back section who broke a seat by jumping on it, the fan reaction cooled the farther you were from the stage.
The exceptions came during the night's two brightest songs: a cover of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Pearl Jam's own anthem "Alive," which was played in the show's last breaths. These two songs illustrated why Pearl Jam still matters -- but for the most part, Pearl Jam and Vedder coulda been better.


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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,064
    Don't let critics get to u

    we all know what took place
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    He's right about the band's shitty sound system. I'll give him that much.
  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,206
    He's right about the band's shitty sound system. I'll give him that much.
    Really? I thought it sounded great in Hartford
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  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    He's right about the band's shitty sound system. I'll give him that much.
    Really? I thought it sounded great in Hartford

    You were probably in the sweet spot. I sat right in front of the soundboard at Philly 2 and it sounded hideous. Just muddy, indistinct echo. East Rutherford '06 was bad too. I couldn't hear a fucking thing that was going on. A waste of time & money!
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,578
    The Post is the most embarrassing paper I've ever seen... in all aspects.
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  • JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    It's not a terrible review, just a bit more honest I guess. MSG is huge, not having screens doesn't make any sense. And Ed does mumble! Sometimes it's impossible to decipher what he's saying on albums, never mind live in echo-filled rooms.
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  • dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    screens would be nice, but maybe they would obstruct the view of some seats way up and to the side. where i was sitting, the sound was incredible. this writer just had a bad time all around i think
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    obviously not a fan.
    I missed the screens at KC and Hartford too, most especially at KC back of the floor, they help a lot then.
  • jjmackjjmack Posts: 5
    he actually usually writes very good reviews of their shows. I agree the sound wasn't great and I can understand how screens could help people farther away, but they had them in chicago 2009 and I found them IMO very distracting.
    pandora wrote:
    obviously not a fan.
    I missed the screens at KC and Hartford too, most especially at KC back of the floor, they help a lot then.
  • mcdonamsmcdonams Boston Posts: 86
    Have to agree that the sound wasn't spectacular. Halfway through Corduroy on night 2 I leaned to my wife and said that Boston sounded much better. I have to imagine that acoustics are just better in a more modern building. FYI, we were on floor, Row L. The show itself was amazing of course, I just thought the sound could have been better.
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  • NitroNitro Posts: 265
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    The Post is the most embarrassing TABLOID I've ever seen... in all aspects.

    fixed.
  • bosdiegobosdiego Boston Posts: 11
    The article itself is a complete waste of time. I mean seriously, video screens people?? Come on. If you need a video screen at a Pearl Jam show, 1) drop some coin on a better ticket, or 2) sit home and watch the DVDs from 2003 on a big screen and save the seats for people that belong at these shows, or 3) go follow them overseas for your video screens. His reviews of the music selection, and the jaded remarks associated with them, reflect a deep misunderstanding of the band's purpose and passionate connection with its fan base. He's way off base there. Those set lists were kick ass, and they were ALL over the place which is what you want if you are there for the right reasons.

    I will say that we sat in two totally different areas of the arena for the MSG shows - for #1 we were section 81, row 4 (basically center court on stone's side) and for #2 we were 210 about 6 rows up (basically in line with Mike but elevated) - and I thought the sound was MUCH better on Thursday night...I literally could hear every word, and trust me I am not the lyric guy in this household (my wife is). The sound was more of an issue on Friday night IMO, and my sister-in-law said the same thing two songs in.

    The Boston show had the WORST sound I think I have ever heard. I was on the floor about 15 rows back in front of Stone. It was horrendous, but that place is known for that. I thought Hartford's sound was pretty good, but again we were side stage about center court on Stone's side. I don't know, maybe that's a good spot.

    Bottom line, I think it has everything to do with where you sat, how much you follow these guys, and what you expect going in. These shows were killer, and there's not a person on the planet that could sell me otherwise.
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  • WM31482WM31482 New York, NY Posts: 563
    that guys probably just pissed his press credentials weren't good enough to get him good seats...
  • number1PJfannumber1PJfan Posts: 3,748
    Up here in my tree,
    Newspapers matter not to me,
    No more crowbars to my head,
    I'm trading stories with the leaves instead :D
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