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Philly 4 v. Boston 2010: The Numbers

RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
edited May 2010 in The Porch
This is what I do when I'm bored during school.
All stats are based off of numbers available on PJ.com today.
Rarity of song = number of times played live

Philly 4

10/31/09 Wachovia Spectrum
Songs Played: 41
Average Rarity of Song: 161.146
Rarest Songs: Whip It, Bugs, Sweet Lew
Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Black
Number of Songs with < 100 times played: 22
Percent of Songs played < 100: 53.659%
Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 28
Percent of Songs played < 200: 68.293%

Boston 2010

05/17/10 TD BankNorth Garden
Songs Played: 32
Average Rarity of Song: 156.3125
Rarest Songs: Undone, Push Me Pull Me, Force of Nature, Bee Girl
Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Better Man
Number of Song with < 100 times played: 18
Percent of Songs played < 100: 56.25%
Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 21
Percent of Songs played < 200: 65.625%


Just some fun facts! Thought they we're interesting.

By the numbers.....Boston might have the slight edge.

Also, please correct any of my math/double check any of my numbers.
2006/05/25 - Boston
2008/06/30 - Mansfield
2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
2010/05/17 - Boston
2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
2012/09/02 - Made in America
2013/10/17 - Worcester
2013/10/25 - Hartford
2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
2016/08/05 - Fenway
2016/08/07 - Fenway
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  • BlackCorduroyBlackCorduroy Posts: 1,374
    Rearviewrelease wrote:

    By the numbers.....Boston might have the slight edge.
    I don't understand this? Philly has better numbers in almost every category. :P I was at both and am not necessarily calling it better, I'm just confused by your numbers and conclusion:) Very interesting to look at though.


    I've totally given up on trying to pick a favorite PJ show. I've had so many uniquely amazing evenings with this band that it would have to be like a 7 way tie, then another 3-4 for second place. :mrgreen: Thank you PJ for consistently kicking my ass live. Boston was unbelievable last night
  • RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
    BlackCorduroy wrote:
    Rearviewrelease wrote:

    By the numbers.....Boston might have the slight edge.
    I don't understand this? Philly has better numbers in almost every category. :P I was at both and am not necessarily calling it better, I'm just confused by your numbers and conclusion:) Very interesting to look at though.


    I've totally given up on trying to pick a favorite PJ show. I've had so many uniquely amazing evenings with this band that it would have to be like a 7 way tie, then another 3-4 for second place. :mrgreen: Thank you PJ for consistently kicking my ass live. Boston was unbelievable last night

    Boston has a lower average rarity of song. Lower number = more rare. Boston also has a higher percentage of songs played that were under 100 times played.
    2006/05/25 - Boston
    2008/06/30 - Mansfield
    2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
    2010/05/17 - Boston
    2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
    2012/09/02 - Made in America
    2013/10/17 - Worcester
    2013/10/25 - Hartford
    2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
    2016/08/05 - Fenway
    2016/08/07 - Fenway
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    Rearviewrelease wrote:
    This is what I do when I'm bored during school.
    All stats are based off of numbers available on PJ.com today.
    Rarity of song = number of times played live

    Philly 4

    10/31/09 Wachovia Spectrum
    Songs Played: 41
    Average Rarity of Song: 161.146
    Rarest Songs: Whip It, Bugs, Sweet Lew
    Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Black
    Number of Songs with < 100 times played: 22
    Percent of Songs played < 100: 53.659%
    Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 28
    Percent of Songs played < 200: 68.293%

    Boston 2010

    05/17/10 TD BankNorth Garden
    Songs Played: 32
    Average Rarity of Song: 156.3125
    Rarest Songs: Undone, Push Me Pull Me, Force of Nature, Bee Girl
    Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Better Man
    Number of Song with < 100 times played: 18
    Percent of Songs played < 100: 56.25%
    Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 21
    Percent of Songs played < 200: 65.625%


    Just some fun facts! Thought they we're interesting.

    By the numbers.....Boston might have the slight edge.

    Also, please correct any of my math/double check any of my numbers.

    You forgot to list "Out Of My Mind" with the Philly 4 rarities. I think that was only the 3rd time it was played.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:
  • RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Rearviewrelease wrote:
    This is what I do when I'm bored during school.
    All stats are based off of numbers available on PJ.com today.
    Rarity of song = number of times played live

    Philly 4

    10/31/09 Wachovia Spectrum
    Songs Played: 41
    Average Rarity of Song: 161.146
    Rarest Songs: Whip It, Bugs, Sweet Lew
    Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Black
    Number of Songs with < 100 times played: 22
    Percent of Songs played < 100: 53.659%
    Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 28
    Percent of Songs played < 200: 68.293%

    Boston 2010

    05/17/10 TD BankNorth Garden
    Songs Played: 32
    Average Rarity of Song: 156.3125
    Rarest Songs: Undone, Push Me Pull Me, Force of Nature, Bee Girl
    Most Common Songs: Even Flow, Alive, Better Man
    Number of Song with < 100 times played: 18
    Percent of Songs played < 100: 56.25%
    Number of Songs with < 200 times played: 21
    Percent of Songs played < 200: 65.625%


    Just some fun facts! Thought they we're interesting.

    By the numbers.....Boston might have the slight edge.

    Also, please correct any of my math/double check any of my numbers.

    You forgot to list "Out Of My Mind" with the Philly 4 rarities. I think that was only the 3rd time it was played.

    I know, but all the one's I listed were only ever played once. The only reason I listed 4 for Boston was that I couldn't say Force of Nature as a "rare" song in good conscience.
    2006/05/25 - Boston
    2008/06/30 - Mansfield
    2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
    2010/05/17 - Boston
    2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
    2012/09/02 - Made in America
    2013/10/17 - Worcester
    2013/10/25 - Hartford
    2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
    2016/08/05 - Fenway
    2016/08/07 - Fenway
  • RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:


    lol I'm agreeing with you! The numbers point to Boston baby!
    2006/05/25 - Boston
    2008/06/30 - Mansfield
    2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
    2010/05/17 - Boston
    2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
    2012/09/02 - Made in America
    2013/10/17 - Worcester
    2013/10/25 - Hartford
    2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
    2016/08/05 - Fenway
    2016/08/07 - Fenway
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:

    How could a PEARL JAM FAN call the playing of Bugs a "novelty"???? Yeah...I suppose you don't "rock out" to Bugs but it's not like you "rock out" to Just Breathe, Small Town or Black either.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,672
    I don't get the whole "less times played = better than" mindset.
  • RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I don't get the whole "less times played = better than" mindset.

    It's not. That's not a good mindset at all. I'm just giving numbers. Never said that Boston is better than Philly because of THIS. Just giving some interesting numbers
    2006/05/25 - Boston
    2008/06/30 - Mansfield
    2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
    2010/05/17 - Boston
    2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
    2012/09/02 - Made in America
    2013/10/17 - Worcester
    2013/10/25 - Hartford
    2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
    2016/08/05 - Fenway
    2016/08/07 - Fenway
  • Indi4enceIndi4ence Posts: 949
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:

    Bee Girl?
  • mulva9mulva9 Posts: 417
    I think your whole rarity index is flawed. You've gotta do something like, percentage of shows with song played since its debut. I know that's probably not possible with the PJ.com data, but just saying.
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    Indi4ence wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:

    Bee Girl?

    i love Bee Girl...it's a very catchy little ditty served well after several drinks :mrgreen:
  • sweetlew33sweetlew33 Posts: 83
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    numbers don't mean shit...i mean who the fuck rocked out to bugs in Philly or sweet Lou? they were a novelty at best...last night they tore shit up the right way!!! no novelties to be found! :mrgreen:

    I did, at least to Sweet Lew that is :)
  • RearviewreleaseRearviewrelease Posts: 721
    mulva9 wrote:
    I think your whole rarity index is flawed. You've gotta do something like, percentage of shows with song played since its debut. I know that's probably not possible with the PJ.com data, but just saying.

    I think I know what you mean. Not weighting Force of Nature with 10 plays the same as Crown of Thorns, which as 15.

    Unfortunately, I have no idea on how to do this. Though it is not perfect, and there are discrepancies, I think these numbers are accurate to a CERTAIN degree
    2006/05/25 - Boston
    2008/06/30 - Mansfield
    2009/10/31 - Philadelphia
    2010/05/17 - Boston
    2011/06/15 - Providence (Eddie Vedder)
    2012/09/02 - Made in America
    2013/10/17 - Worcester
    2013/10/25 - Hartford
    2015/09/26 - Global Citizen Festival
    2016/08/05 - Fenway
    2016/08/07 - Fenway
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