14 years and counting...

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

So you are against any merit-based process?  So first come first serve?  Is there a limit?

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

So you are against any merit-based process?  So first come first serve?  Is there a limit?

I think skilled vs unskilled is not the way to go. at least not the main determining factor, if it is. 

mcgruff10

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Immigration is tough. Come one come all cannot be expected. I'm actually okay with tightening up borders and immigration policies to some degree.

Where I have the problem is the current retro actions- deporting people who have proven themselves to be valuable citizens.

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

So you are against any merit-based process?  So first come first serve?  Is there a limit?

I think skilled vs unskilled is not the way to go. at least not the main determining factor, if it is. 

I actually tend to think that the overall # of open spots should be split into a few categories with % of total allocated for each.  And skilled being 1.  So certainly some merit-based immigration...but leaving room for other.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Immigration is tough. Come one come all cannot be expected. I'm actually okay with tightening up borders and immigration policies to some degree.

Where I have the problem is the current retro actions- deporting people who have proven themselves to be valuable citizens.

I think most know that immigration reform is needed. just don't a fucking heartless asshole Huckabee Sanders about it. 

mcgruff10

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

let in whomever the hell you want. just stop deporting people who have been there 30 years and are contributing members of society and tearing families apart and detaining children in fucking immigration camps like this is nazi germany. it's unreal. 

that being said, if you want skill-based immigration, expect all of your costs to go up as consumers. a living wage for all workers won't pay for itself. 

canada can be particular as we don't share a border with an economically challenged country whose labour our economy has become dependent on. 

PJPOWER

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

Once again, we should leave them with their parents and give them “free” train tickets straight to Canada where they can get “free” healthcare and a much better education.  Would cost way less than holding them indefinitely.  The USA cannot even take care of the current citizens needs, so why keep throwing fuel on the fire?  Would Canadian citizens be willing to take on all of these immigrants?

josevolution

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

I apologized to you but I’ll never see eye to eye on this administration or this president with you they are disgusting humans and you voted for the biggest culprit..

Hey I think a lot of people need to realize that because you voted for someone doesn’t mean you’re guilty of all the shit that elected person does.  Stop taking your anger out on his supporters when they’re not pulling kids away from their parents or any of the other horrible things that happen around the country from either side.  It’s common sense. The broad brush you paint us all with us exactly the reason he got elected.  Conservatives got tired of being called vile names and racist and all that stuff and voted with a middle finger back at that hate.  

I laugh because being in amt on this forum is like being at a cocktail party where tons of folks are half in the bag and saying shit they wouldn’t normally say in public- they’re talking shit about black people for example when they’re over there standing in the same room!  Just because the folks you despise aren’t posting doesn’t mean they’re not there helping themselves to some of the same buffet.  I guess what I’m saying is glass house kind of stuff- calling people classless but in the same breath saying something classless doesnt make yourself look too classy.

I'll ask again how do you feel about kids being separated from their parents at the border and kept in tent city's as if they are war prisoners ? 

OnWis97

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

I apologized to you but I’ll never see eye to eye on this administration or this president with you they are disgusting humans and you voted for the biggest culprit..

Hey I think a lot of people need to realize that because you voted for someone doesn’t mean you’re guilty of all the shit that elected person does.  Stop taking your anger out on his supporters when they’re not pulling kids away from their parents or any of the other horrible things that happen around the country from either side.  It’s common sense. The broad brush you paint us all with us exactly the reason he got elected.  Conservatives got tired of being called vile names and racist and all that stuff and voted with a middle finger back at that hate.  

I laugh because being in amt on this forum is like being at a cocktail party where tons of folks are half in the bag and saying shit they wouldn’t normally say in public- they’re talking shit about black people for example when they’re over there standing in the same room!  Just because the folks you despise aren’t posting doesn’t mean they’re not there helping themselves to some of the same buffet.  I guess what I’m saying is glass house kind of stuff- calling people classless but in the same breath saying something classless doesnt make yourself look too classy.

I can buy that.  But it's a harder sell if you vote for him again.

HughFreakingDillon

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

Once again, we should leave them with their parents and give them “free” train tickets straight to Canada where they can get “free” healthcare and a much better education.  Would cost way less than holding them indefinitely.  The USA cannot even take care of the current citizens needs, so why keep throwing fuel on the fire?  Would Canadian citizens be willing to take on all of these immigrants?

canada actually lets in WAY more immigrants per percentage of population than the US does. more than double the percentage, actually. 

https://www.immigroup.com/news/immigration-united-states-america-vs-canada

tbergs

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

Once again, we should leave them with their parents and give them “free” train tickets straight to Canada where they can get “free” healthcare and a much better education.  Would cost way less than holding them indefinitely.  The USA cannot even take care of the current citizens needs, so why keep throwing fuel on the fire?  Would Canadian citizens be willing to take on all of these immigrants?

canada actually lets in WAY more immigrants per percentage of population than the US does. more than double the percentage, actually. 

https://www.immigroup.com/news/immigration-united-states-america-vs-canada

Aaah, you're wrecking his cute little narrative :( Yeah, but how many of those were bad hombres? 

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah lay off me already! I hurled a few insults but that seems pretty much commonplace around here.  Jose personally attacks me and brings my restaurants and pizza stuff to every thread i post in for god sakes but I don’t even reply!  Sorry Ally, I just got possed that you attacked me for a bunch of stuff you thought I said... like I said, it was basically like you were so excited to rant at me since I voted for trump that you just assumed I hated trans people or something.  Not all trump supporters see the guy as a saint and believe everything he says.

Sorry for dragging the subject back up again, but no, I'm not excited to rant at anyone - there was no psychological explanation behind my misreading your post. I just misread it due to carelessness, so really thought you said those things - I didn't assume anything; I thought I'd read you actually saying it. Honest mistake.

PJ_Soul

dankind said:

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

Scruffy is stupid for not liking Riot Act. 

There, I said it. 

Definitely some great songs in there but the majority are terrible. You are is the absolute worst pj song ever made. I d take a 49 minute version of Sweet Lew over that song. 

Beyond stupid. 

True - I take it back McGruff, you really are stupid.

PJPOWER

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

typical. create a problem, then attempt to fix it to look like the hero if it passes or the democrats looks like the evil ones when it doesn't because they packaged it with shit that cannot be accepted. 

this admin is fucking evil. 

what would you deem "shit" in this bill?

more wall bullshit. provisions that allow the government to detain kids for undefined amounts of time. merit based immigration. give us your tired, indeed. change that to "give us your skilled, your energetic, your middle class". 

Is that quote from the canada's immigration webpage?

haha. the canada. 

no, ours is "give us everyone you've got, just please leave your nailbombs at the door". 

My bad, damn phone. You guys are pretty particular in who you let in; why can’t the United States be the same?

Once again, we should leave them with their parents and give them “free” train tickets straight to Canada where they can get “free” healthcare and a much better education.  Would cost way less than holding them indefinitely.  The USA cannot even take care of the current citizens needs, so why keep throwing fuel on the fire?  Would Canadian citizens be willing to take on all of these immigrants?

canada actually lets in WAY more immigrants per percentage of population than the US does. more than double the percentage, actually. 

https://www.immigroup.com/news/immigration-united-states-america-vs-canada

What’s a few more . And that is “per percentage of the population”. The link you provided explains that the US takes in WAY more immigrants, but also had a larger population of citizens already...looks like Canada has got the room to spare.The US is at capacity and Canada has the free healthcare and better education for them.

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

I apologized to you but I’ll never see eye to eye on this administration or this president with you they are disgusting humans and you voted for the biggest culprit..

Hey I think a lot of people need to realize that because you voted for someone doesn’t mean you’re guilty of all the shit that elected person does.  Stop taking your anger out on his supporters when they’re not pulling kids away from their parents or any of the other horrible things that happen around the country from either side.  It’s common sense. The broad brush you paint us all with us exactly the reason he got elected.  Conservatives got tired of being called vile names and racist and all that stuff and voted with a middle finger back at that hate.  

I laugh because being in amt on this forum is like being at a cocktail party where tons of folks are half in the bag and saying shit they wouldn’t normally say in public- they’re talking shit about black people for example when they’re over there standing in the same room!  Just because the folks you despise aren’t posting doesn’t mean they’re not there helping themselves to some of the same buffet.  I guess what I’m saying is glass house kind of stuff- calling people classless but in the same breath saying something classless doesnt make yourself look too classy.

I think the anger directed at Trump voters is beyond justified myself. Showing support for something absolutely does make someone culpable as far as I'm concerned. Without that support it wouldn't be happening and it wouldn't be getting worse by the day.
For the record, I would say literally everything I've ever said on the AMT right to your face and to everyone else's.

dankind

So when do we go from saying we're taking these kids away to give them "baths" to we're taking them away to give them "showers?"

What's right is reich.

mcgruff10

dankind said:

So when do we go from saying we're taking these kids away to give them "baths" to we're taking them away to give them "showers?"

What's right is reich.

That's insane.