Last night's poster on sale now on BigPop

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    thunderDAN wrote:
    the only thing that sours me about Ames is how they made up a second artist proof for some of their prints and started charging over $200 for them. BK doesn't even do this and he is a one man show so you could atleast understand if he did

    they dont do that until there is a new series/tour

    each time there is a tour, they hike the prices on the older ones
  • gatorjam
    gatorjam West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 197
    I saw it last night, didnt look to good. I passed but i got the black t shirt i wore the medium for most of the night and realized i looked to "muscular" in it and exchanged it for a large. haha
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  • skere26
    skere26 Posts: 305
    About 2 years ago Ames had the san diego poster with the girl hugging the bugs for $120. My girlfriend wanted it for her birthday, however being a poor college student i only had 80 bucks. I emailed them asking if they would sell a poster to me for $80... They replied that they weren't in the negotiation business and they can't do anything about the prices (except raise them i guess..)
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    thats kind of a cavalier attitude, wouldnt you say ?
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  • eyesnoeyes
    eyesnoeyes Posts: 50
    There's some crazy crap is in this thread:

    First - Ames Bros 'Fame' isn't anywhere near 'new found' - those dudes have been big in the poster community for a LONG time and certainly since the big resurgence of popularity in that art form occurred - and no, that doesn't correspond with 2005, when the PJ community really started paying attention to posters.

    Second - AP2 has nothing to do with them 'printing more' - they didn't print any more - people's speculation about them having some 'extras' that were unaccounted for is much more likely. So of course they're going to sell them, but they're the artists, so it makes sense for them to sell them and SIGN and NUMBER them, and since it would be harder to contact everyone with an AP1 and get them to send it back so they could change the signed edition size, they figured something else out.

    Third - The AP2's didn't come out at really high prices - I bought an AP2 of LA 03 and it was $65, the same as the AP1 price. Like MOST artists, as their stock dwindles, the prices go up - this only appears to be related to the 'new tour' theory because Ames Brothers and PJ Tours are both located on the same plain of existence, where time tends to move forward.

    I don't love the WPB 08 poster either, but endless Ames Bashing is getting so monotonous - they are a GREAT organization to deal with and I'm glad PJ have kept it in house for the most part. Anyone who expected wildly different artwork from what they got at WPB just hasn't been paying attention. They've been working with very simplified imagery for a while (even back to 98 (!?) - check out the Pittsburgh 98 poster), and they've really been exploring it over the last few tours: Kitchener 05, San Fran 2 06, Katowice, Munich 07...
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  • eyesnoeyes
    eyesnoeyes Posts: 50
    skere26 wrote:
    About 2 years ago Ames had the san diego poster with the girl hugging the bugs for $120. My girlfriend wanted it for her birthday, however being a poor college student i only had 80 bucks. I emailed them asking if they would sell a poster to me for $80... They replied that they weren't in the negotiation business and they can't do anything about the prices (except raise them i guess..)

    You really expected them to sell you that poster for $80 when they clearly advertised it for sale at $120?? Would you make that deal with someone you didn't know? And when you tell your buddy about that deal what do they do when he wants to buy a poster for $50 less than advertised?

    From the dealings I've had with Ames I just think it's crazy that people would question the commitment to customers - but that doesn't mean they should run their business into the ground...
    'She runs through my veins like a long, black river and rattles my cage like a thunderstorm...' R. Adams.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    skere26 wrote:
    About 2 years ago Ames had the san diego poster with the girl hugging the bugs for $120. My girlfriend wanted it for her birthday, however being a poor college student i only had 80 bucks. I emailed them asking if they would sell a poster to me for $80... They replied that they weren't in the negotiation business and they can't do anything about the prices (except raise them i guess..)


    Why would you expect them to change the price for one person? I mean it is not it is something they have trouble selling. That would be like walking into the grocery store and trying to negotiate the price of a box of cheerios.
  • skere26
    skere26 Posts: 305
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Why would you expect them to change the price for one person? I mean it is not it is something they have trouble selling. That would be like walking into the grocery store and trying to negotiate the price of a box of cheerios.

    A. everything in life is negotiable.

    B. its nice to be treated like a person and not a sale. they would have been easily making money by selling it at 80.

    C. i have had other artists work with me before, and I can tell you I those have a returning customer.
  • woundedorgan
    woundedorgan Posts: 607
    skere26 wrote:
    A. everything in life is negotiable.

    B. its nice to be treated like a person and not a sale. they would have been easily making money by selling it at 80.

    C. i have had other artists work with me before, and I can tell you I those have a returning customer.


    dude I have spent a lot of money on the Ames website via subscriptions and about 5 over priced T-shirts and never expect them to cut me a deal, especially on an 03 A/P poster. My advice is to hook your girl with a lesser expensive non A/P poster, I am sure she really isn't going to mind if Coby and Barry's signatures are not on the print. I am sure you are well aware of expresso beans, you do not have to put up with the BS expenses of Ebay and your chance of negotiating with someone is much better there...peace.
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  • eyesnoeyes
    eyesnoeyes Posts: 50
    skere26 wrote:
    A. everything in life is negotiable.

    B. its nice to be treated like a person and not a sale. they would have been easily making money by selling it at 80.

    C. i have had other artists work with me before, and I can tell you I those have a returning customer.

    A - Sure I guess, but your initial offer was probably right off their negotiating radar - why not start with a quarter as your opening bid?

    B - Sure it's nice - and they would probably be making money if they sold it for $20, but they've obviously chosen their price by what they perceive people are willing to pay - if it doesn't sell, they make no money, so they'll drop their price or live with it.

    C - I don't know how much Ames wants a returning customer that lowers their profit margin by $50 per sale.
    'She runs through my veins like a long, black river and rattles my cage like a thunderstorm...' R. Adams.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    skere26 wrote:
    A. everything in life is negotiable.

    Not when there is someone else willing to pay full price. Ames never seems to have much problem selling out their prints, so it is not like they been stuck holding on to a pile of unsold prints very often. Now the unpopular ones they put on special, but that is a different story.
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    swallowedwords wrote:
    LOL, funny. Like I said, I like this poster. Most Ames posters are cartoony. The more I look at this one, the more I like it.

    Their either "cartoony" or a person has to read sideways or upside down or get a head ache figuring out what the posters even about.

    Sorry...Ames sucks once again. ITs really too bad. Probably a few decent ones will come out of this but damn do I miss the early Ames and others from the past.

    I look at the '98s and earlier and have to ask....have the old Ames designers gone solo and some other goof ball is doing these?
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    swallowedwords wrote:
    Exactly! This poster certainly beats the hell out of these:

    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/63001
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/62019
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/38093
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/37649
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/38224
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/37801
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/43085
    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/40560

    etc...

    Proves my point only my list is longer...Ames sucks.
  • ZAPPER
    ZAPPER Posts: 253
    Kingmidget wrote:
    Proves my point only my list is longer...Ames sucks.
    How about ... you suck? and complainers suck?
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