I think even Eddie knows GSMF

JR86440
JR86440 Posts: 756
edited May 2010 in The Porch
doesnt sound good live.. GREAT tune on the album as far as I am concerned, but live, just sounds "messy"...probably why they havent played it yet this go around
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  • release23420
    release23420 Posts: 1,176
    well it is a messy song :D i thought thats how it was suppose to be they played it same way in austin it was fuckin tight :mrgreen:
  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 756
    release23420 wrote:
    well it is a messy song :D i thought thats how it was suppose to be they played it same way in austin it was fuckin tight :mrgreen:

    hopefully I will hear it Sat, Mon or Tue!!! On the boots just doesnt sound like a good Live PJ song..most PJ songs are better live than the album..
  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    JR86440 wrote:
    release23420 wrote:
    well it is a messy song :D i thought thats how it was suppose to be they played it same way in austin it was fuckin tight :mrgreen:

    hopefully I will hear it Sat, Mon or Tue!!! On the boots just doesnt sound like a good Live PJ song..most PJ songs are better live than the album..

    Listening to Pearl Jam radio it hit me how so often this really isn't the case any longer. PJ are seemingly making more songs that sound great on the album, but shit live, like GSMF and WWS... and well, most of Backspacer really. I really wonder what this change is down to.
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  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Listening to Pearl Jam radio it hit me how so often this really isn't the case any longer. PJ are seemingly making more songs that sound great on the album, but shit live, like GSMF and WWS... and well, most of Backspacer really. I really wonder what this change is down to.
    Part of why they sound so much different (not worse, although on Force of Nature it just sounds a bit flat) is that they are tuning the guitars down a half step to make it a little easier for EVs vocals. I know that they do that with Life Wasted, Got Some, Fixer, Force of Nature... there are others I cant remember offhand.
  • RedMosquito22
    RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    drsluggo wrote:
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Listening to Pearl Jam radio it hit me how so often this really isn't the case any longer. PJ are seemingly making more songs that sound great on the album, but shit live, like GSMF and WWS... and well, most of Backspacer really. I really wonder what this change is down to.
    Part of why they sound so much different (not worse, although on Force of Nature it just sounds a bit flat) is that they are tuning the guitars down a half step to make it a little easier for EVs vocals. I know that they do that with Life Wasted, Got Some, Fixer, Force of Nature... there are others I cant remember offhand.

    Yep. WWS and GSMF are tuned down as well. All the songs that are hard to sing are tuned down and sound different live.
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  • skyeriverwinter
    skyeriverwinter Posts: 1,916
    please stop...i really do love this song...they already don't play it...you will further that and i will never hear it again... smiley-sad006.gif
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Listening to Pearl Jam radio it hit me how so often this really isn't the case any longer. PJ are seemingly making more songs that sound great on the album, but shit live, like GSMF and WWS... and well, most of Backspacer really. I really wonder what this change is down to.

    For what it's worth, while I thought Just Breathe and Unthought Known sounded lackluster in New Orleans, I thought Supersonic kicked some major ass.
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  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 756
    I have no clue about music so please excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean by tuning down the guitars for Ed's vocals? how does that help/what does that mean?
  • release23420
    release23420 Posts: 1,176
    skyeriverwinter wrote:
    please stop...i really do love this song...they already don't play it...you will further that and i will never hear it again... smiley-sad006.gif


    it is a messy a song like some songs are messy but fuckin rock,,, :D
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    JR86440 wrote:
    I have no clue about music so please excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean by tuning down the guitars for Ed's vocals? how does that help/what does that mean?

    it means making the pitch of the song lower, so Ed doesn't have to strain to sing it as high as it was recorded.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    release23420 wrote:
    skyeriverwinter wrote:
    please stop...i really do love this song...they already don't play it...you will further that and i will never hear it again... smiley-sad006.gif


    it is a messy a song like some songs are messy but fuckin rock,,, :D

    as I'm not a fan of uber-technical Swedish heavy metal guitar work, I prefer the sludgy shit, i.e: GRUNGE. :lol:

    I don't pay good money to hear the album. I pay good money to hear the live version.
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    It's a messy song because it's a pearl jam song. Almost every pj song has some sort of messiness to it, especially live.

    What makes an incredible live rock band is messiness. Lyrical fuck ups, guitar fuck ups, a drunk but HAPPY singer, yet at the same time still being tight where theiyre not too sloppy. That's the whole reason why PJ is the greatest live band around. So for someone to say it's too messy live just confuses me.
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  • Gmoney
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    umm.. WWS is sick live!!
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  • SoonForgotten2
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    Yeah, I know they're tuned down live, but it's not that they sound different... i love variety between studio and live performances, it's more a matter that they sound baaaaaaad. Ed's vocals in particular. I really didn't like "Got Some" until I heard the album version and it still beats the pants off every live version I've heard because Ed just cannot sing it properly.
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  • release23420
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    Johnny Sitar wrote:
    release23420 wrote:
    skyeriverwinter wrote:
    please stop...i really do love this song...they already don't play it...you will further that and i will never hear it again... smiley-sad006.gif


    it is a messy a song like some songs are messy but fuckin rock,,, :D

    as I'm not a fan of uber-technical Swedish heavy metal guitar work, I prefer the sludgy shit, i.e: GRUNGE. :lol:

    I don't pay good money to hear the album. I pay good money to hear the live version.


    thats fuckin right i pay money to hear an see a kick ass live show,, because in the studio anything can happen an the be corrected but,,, live is where you see the ones that belong on the stage
  • Jwmcc
    Jwmcc Posts: 451
    I thought GSMF sounded great opening up Philly Night 3 last year.
  • SVRDhand13
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    Jwmcc wrote:
    I thought GSMF sounded great opening up Philly Night 3 last year.

    So did I. And I've listened to the boot about 5 times.
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  • the wolf
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    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Yeah, I know they're tuned down live, but it's not that they sound different... i love variety between studio and live performances, it's more a matter that they sound baaaaaaad. Ed's vocals in particular. I really didn't like "Got Some" until I heard the album version and it still beats the pants off every live version I've heard because Ed just cannot sing it properly.

    Really? I think Got Some sounds awesome live !!! :?
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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    the wolf wrote:
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    Yeah, I know they're tuned down live, but it's not that they sound different... i love variety between studio and live performances, it's more a matter that they sound baaaaaaad. Ed's vocals in particular. I really didn't like "Got Some" until I heard the album version and it still beats the pants off every live version I've heard because Ed just cannot sing it properly.

    Really? I think Got Some sounds awesome live !!! :?
    Anyone who doesn't think Got Some kicks ass live has not heard the Salt Lake City show. Best version ever.
  • Evacuation Rules
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    Jwmcc wrote:
    I thought GSMF sounded great opening up Philly Night 3 last year.

    It was a good version considering how many songs they butchered on the Philly run.

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