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            Major League Baseball just suspended spring training and postponed Opening Day..
 Major League Baseball is delaying the start of the 2020 regular season by at least two weeks in response to the coronavirus pandemic, the league announced Thursday.
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            I know a guy who knows a guy...some teams are working on a plan for how things would look if they have to cancel the first half of the season.Top 5?Almost impossible to pick.- Babe Ruth
- Willie Mays
- Hank Aaron
- Ted Williams
- Mickey Mantle
 To heck with pitchers!(And to known roid ragers. Bonds is an all time great but I am not putting him in my top 5)The love he receives is the love that is saved0
- Babe Ruth
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 WAR shmar...5000k’s/not one of the best? Get outta here with that shittempo_n_groove said:
 He lead in categories like K's, BB's, Hits per 9 innings, Wild pitches... I do admit to loving him as he was exciting but no way was he one of the best.DewieCox said:
 He was a horse for a loooooong time. I used to think he was overrated and then checked out his Baseball-reference one day. Bolded shit all over the place up for damn near a quarter century. He really only dropped off his last few years.tempo_n_groove said:
 Ryan? You're joking right?DewieCox said:Who’s top 5?
 Babe
 Mays
 Bonds
 Pujols
 RyanPujols at 23 is moronic. He’s a lock in the top 10. Fucking 700 hr clean
 Blyleven, Neikro, Carlton and Perry had a higher WAR than Ryan. All his contemporaries.
 EDIT: Yes I would put Pujols wayyyy up there as well. For the first 12 years or so he was unbelievable.0
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 Id put clean Bonds somewhere close behind Griffey.F Me In The Brain said:I know a guy who knows a guy...some teams are working on a plan for how things would look if they have to cancel the first half of the season.Top 5?Almost impossible to pick.- Babe Ruth
- Willie Mays
- Hank Aaron
- Ted Williams
- Mickey Mantle
 To heck with pitchers!(And to known roid ragers. Bonds is an all time great but I am not putting him in my top 5)0
- Babe Ruth
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 There are a lot of people that think Ryan is one of the best, why? They must love the strikeout.DewieCox said:
 WAR shmar...5000k’s/not one of the best? Get outta here with that shittempo_n_groove said:
 He lead in categories like K's, BB's, Hits per 9 innings, Wild pitches... I do admit to loving him as he was exciting but no way was he one of the best.DewieCox said:
 He was a horse for a loooooong time. I used to think he was overrated and then checked out his Baseball-reference one day. Bolded shit all over the place up for damn near a quarter century. He really only dropped off his last few years.tempo_n_groove said:
 Ryan? You're joking right?DewieCox said:Who’s top 5?
 Babe
 Mays
 Bonds
 Pujols
 RyanPujols at 23 is moronic. He’s a lock in the top 10. Fucking 700 hr clean
 Blyleven, Neikro, Carlton and Perry had a higher WAR than Ryan. All his contemporaries.
 EDIT: Yes I would put Pujols wayyyy up there as well. For the first 12 years or so he was unbelievable.
 I would take Maddux 100 times over Ryan any day. A list of other pitchers I would choose over him.
 Scherzer
 Kershaw
 Mathewson
 Koufax
 Gibson
 Drysdale
 Gomez
 Young
 Johnson Big Train
 Johnson Big Unit
 Brown
 Marichal
 Nichols
 Spahn
 Clemens
 Plank
 Palmer
 Again, I loved watching Ryan pitch. Hearing him grunt when he threw was always cool!0
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 Mantle over Cobb?F Me In The Brain said:I know a guy who knows a guy...some teams are working on a plan for how things would look if they have to cancel the first half of the season.Top 5?Almost impossible to pick.- Babe Ruth
- Willie Mays
- Hank Aaron
- Ted Williams
- Mickey Mantle
 To heck with pitchers!(And to known roid ragers. Bonds is an all time great but I am not putting him in my top 5)0
- Babe Ruth
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            tempo_n_groove said:
 Mantle over Cobb?F Me In The Brain said:I know a guy who knows a guy...some teams are working on a plan for how things would look if they have to cancel the first half of the season.Top 5?Almost impossible to pick.- Babe Ruth
- Willie Mays
- Hank Aaron
- Ted Williams
- Mickey Mantle
 To heck with pitchers!(And to known roid ragers. Bonds is an all time great but I am not putting him in my top 5)
 For my .02, yes. Can understand others selecting differently.
 The love he receives is the love that is saved0
- Babe Ruth
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 That's a bold move Cotton. Hope it pays off for you.F Me In The Brain said:tempo_n_groove said:
 Mantle over Cobb?F Me In The Brain said:I know a guy who knows a guy...some teams are working on a plan for how things would look if they have to cancel the first half of the season.Top 5?Almost impossible to pick.- Babe Ruth
- Willie Mays
- Hank Aaron
- Ted Williams
- Mickey Mantle
 To heck with pitchers!(And to known roid ragers. Bonds is an all time great but I am not putting him in my top 5)
 For my .02, yes. Can understand others selecting differently.
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- Babe Ruth
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            Let's do top 5 pitchers of all time.
 Cy Young
 Walter Johnson
 Greg Maddux
 Christy Mathewson
 Warren Spahn
 I do think people underestimate how great Spahn was.0
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            I don't know that I can do top fives. It's too hard to narrow down.Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all-time. Greg Maddux is the greatest pitcher of all-time. Manny Ramirez & Ichiro are two of the best hitters I've ever seen, throw Pujols, Arod, & Gwynn in there, too. Wish I was old enough to have seen 70's George Brett.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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 With modern players I agree with you 100%.HesCalledDyer said:I don't know that I can do top fives. It's too hard to narrow down.Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all-time. Greg Maddux is the greatest pitcher of all-time. Manny Ramirez & Ichiro are two of the best hitters I've ever seen, throw Pujols, Arod, & Gwynn in there, too. Wish I was old enough to have seen 70's George Brett.
 People don't put in Frank Thomas enough either. For like 10 years he had 100BB, runs and RBI's. Dude was a machine in the 90's.0
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            Always loved Frank Thomas even though he played for the bad guys.
 Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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            This thread should be bellowing with people's Top 5's.
 What say you?!?
 This is where I like to hear "why" you like certain players that others do not.0
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            The best player of all time is CLEARLY Gleyber Torres. Don't even think about arguing with me.0
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 I love you sometimes but this isn't one of those times, lol.Cliffy6745 said:The best player of all time is CLEARLY Gleyber Torres. Don't even think about arguing with me.0
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 How about Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn ?tempo_n_groove said:Let's do top 5 pitchers of all time.
 Cy Young
 Walter Johnson
 Greg Maddux
 Christy Mathewson
 Warren Spahn
 I do think people underestimate how great Spahn was.0
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 HA! One of my fav old nicknames.cutz said:
 How about Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn ?tempo_n_groove said:Let's do top 5 pitchers of all time.
 Cy Young
 Walter Johnson
 Greg Maddux
 Christy Mathewson
 Warren Spahn
 I do think people underestimate how great Spahn was.
 "Addie" Joss was another good one. Three Finger was another.
 Baseball was very colorful years ago, lol!0
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 Top 5 is difficult.HesCalledDyer said:I don't know that I can do top fives. It's too hard to narrow down.Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all-time. Greg Maddux is the greatest pitcher of all-time. Manny Ramirez & Ichiro are two of the best hitters I've ever seen, throw Pujols, Arod, & Gwynn in there, too. Wish I was old enough to have seen 70's George Brett.
 Bonds is in the discussion. May Dad use to tell me that Willie Mays was one of, if not, the Best overall player he saw.
 Manny Ramirez & Albert Pujols are 2 of the best RH hitters i've seen.
 George Brett almost hit .400 in 1980. Great swing.
 I'll throw in Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn who were Ichiro before Ichiro. Better hitters, really. Same with Wade Boggs. Gwynn may have hit .400 if it wasn't for the Strike(1994)
 Steve Carlton & Bob Gibson are some of the pitchers that are right there with Maddux, that i saw. Check out ther Stats(ther complete game stat)
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 I caught the very end of Carlton's career. Dude was revered as one of, if not THE best lefty ever. Speaking of which, gotta bring up my local guy Lefty Grove. Consistently put up sub-3 ERAs in a time when Ruth, Gehrig, and others were beating the absolute shit out of the ball!cutz said:
 Top 5 is difficult.HesCalledDyer said:I don't know that I can do top fives. It's too hard to narrow down.Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all-time. Greg Maddux is the greatest pitcher of all-time. Manny Ramirez & Ichiro are two of the best hitters I've ever seen, throw Pujols, Arod, & Gwynn in there, too. Wish I was old enough to have seen 70's George Brett.
 Bonds is in the discussion. May Dad use to tell me that Willie Mays was one of, if not, the Best overall player he saw.
 Manny Ramirez & Albert Pujols are 2 of the best RH hitters i've seen.
 George Brett almost hit .400 in 1980. Great swing.
 I'll throw in Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn who were Ichiro before Ichiro. Better hitters, really. Same with Wade Boggs. Gwynn may have hit .400 if it wasn't for the Strike(1994)
 Steve Carlton & Bob Gibson are some of the pitchers that are right there with Maddux, that i saw. Check out ther Stats(ther complete game stat)
 Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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 See "Warren Spahn"...HesCalledDyer said:
 I caught the very end of Carlton's career. Dude was revered as one of, if not THE best lefty ever. Speaking of which, gotta bring up my local guy Lefty Grove. Consistently put up sub-3 ERAs in a time when Ruth, Gehrig, and others were beating the absolute shit out of the ball!cutz said:
 Top 5 is difficult.HesCalledDyer said:I don't know that I can do top fives. It's too hard to narrow down.Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all-time. Greg Maddux is the greatest pitcher of all-time. Manny Ramirez & Ichiro are two of the best hitters I've ever seen, throw Pujols, Arod, & Gwynn in there, too. Wish I was old enough to have seen 70's George Brett.
 Bonds is in the discussion. May Dad use to tell me that Willie Mays was one of, if not, the Best overall player he saw.
 Manny Ramirez & Albert Pujols are 2 of the best RH hitters i've seen.
 George Brett almost hit .400 in 1980. Great swing.
 I'll throw in Rod Carew and Tony Gwynn who were Ichiro before Ichiro. Better hitters, really. Same with Wade Boggs. Gwynn may have hit .400 if it wasn't for the Strike(1994)
 Steve Carlton & Bob Gibson are some of the pitchers that are right there with Maddux, that i saw. Check out ther Stats(ther complete game stat)
 Edit: Look up Steve Carltons 1972 stats then look up the Phillies wins that year... One of my favorite pitching stats.Post edited by tempo_n_groove on0
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