MLB 2025 World Series
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To pitch in the MLB you need at least a 90mph fastball. Eventually the pitching arch of speed is going to level off as you can only throw so fast. Pitchers can't get any faster than what the human body can do so the batters catch up.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If it hasn't already been mentioned... pitchers are throwing harder than they used to. Collectively speaking... they're bigger and stronger.
90mph is not fast in the modern era, yet it used to characterize a 'live' arm. Back in the Ruth era... it might have been 75mph.
I can't say with any certainty that reaction times have risen in the same proportion as pitch velocity.
A raised mound would be the shits in my opinion.
For what ever reason the powers that be keep pushing for the damn HR as the magic bullet of excitement. The dunk was that in the NBA and now the once scoffed at 3 pointer is the new star in the league.
If hits increased rather than HR to K's I would think that baseball would be more entertaining to the average person.
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tempo_n_groove said:
To pitch in the MLB you need at least a 90mph fastball. Eventually the pitching arch of speed is going to level off as you can only throw so fast. Pitchers can't get any faster than what the human body can do so the batters catch up.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If it hasn't already been mentioned... pitchers are throwing harder than they used to. Collectively speaking... they're bigger and stronger.
90mph is not fast in the modern era, yet it used to characterize a 'live' arm. Back in the Ruth era... it might have been 75mph.
I can't say with any certainty that reaction times have risen in the same proportion as pitch velocity.
A raised mound would be the shits in my opinion.
For what ever reason the powers that be keep pushing for the damn HR as the magic bullet of excitement. The dunk was that in the NBA and now the once scoffed at 3 pointer is the new star in the league.
If hits increased rather than HR to K's I would think that baseball would be more entertaining to the average person.
Thoughts?
A balance between everything in my mind.
When I go to games live... I have to say I do want to see HRs from the 'stars' in the game; however, if the pitchers are big time guys... I want to see a no-hitter and strikeouts.
I enjoy it all, but I guess I like to see the 'stars' star.
When I was in Boston for my Masters Degree, I went to Fenway and saw the Rangers play. Bengie Molina hit for the cycle lol. He was the slowest guy in the majors!
I guess I'm saying entertain me!"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
MadBum told Bochy he’s walking out of the stadium if he uses an opener in his games. I can’t say I disagree with him. What a stupid concept.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/mlb/2014/10/30/world-series-game-7-madison-bumgarner-giants-difference-makerHesCalledDyer said:MadBum told Bochy he’s walking out of the stadium if he uses an opener in his games. I can’t say I disagree with him. What a stupid concept.
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Kyle Hendricks’ fastball is about 88, but he’s an anomaly. Totally agree with everything else.tempo_n_groove said:
To pitch in the MLB you need at least a 90mph fastball. Eventually the pitching arch of speed is going to level off as you can only throw so fast. Pitchers can't get any faster than what the human body can do so the batters catch up.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If it hasn't already been mentioned... pitchers are throwing harder than they used to. Collectively speaking... they're bigger and stronger.
90mph is not fast in the modern era, yet it used to characterize a 'live' arm. Back in the Ruth era... it might have been 75mph.
I can't say with any certainty that reaction times have risen in the same proportion as pitch velocity.
A raised mound would be the shits in my opinion.
For what ever reason the powers that be keep pushing for the damn HR as the magic bullet of excitement. The dunk was that in the NBA and now the once scoffed at 3 pointer is the new star in the league.
If hits increased rather than HR to K's I would think that baseball would be more entertaining to the average person.
Thoughts?
I saw something today that compared MLB to NFL as far as length of games vs ball in play/action. They’re extremely similar, yet “pace of play” is a non-issue in football. Wonder why it’s being so pushed in baseball?Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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I'll disagree w the NFL" action time".HesCalledDyer said:
You have men in motion, a time clock that everyone is watching... It just seems off.0 -
I think Greg Maddux threw 89 mph at best too and he was one of the greatest finesse pitchers I've ever seen play.HesCalledDyer said:
Kyle Hendricks’ fastball is about 88, but he’s an anomaly. Totally agree with everything else.tempo_n_groove said:
To pitch in the MLB you need at least a 90mph fastball. Eventually the pitching arch of speed is going to level off as you can only throw so fast. Pitchers can't get any faster than what the human body can do so the batters catch up.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If it hasn't already been mentioned... pitchers are throwing harder than they used to. Collectively speaking... they're bigger and stronger.
90mph is not fast in the modern era, yet it used to characterize a 'live' arm. Back in the Ruth era... it might have been 75mph.
I can't say with any certainty that reaction times have risen in the same proportion as pitch velocity.
A raised mound would be the shits in my opinion.
For what ever reason the powers that be keep pushing for the damn HR as the magic bullet of excitement. The dunk was that in the NBA and now the once scoffed at 3 pointer is the new star in the league.
If hits increased rather than HR to K's I would think that baseball would be more entertaining to the average person.
Thoughts?
I saw something today that compared MLB to NFL as far as length of games vs ball in play/action. They’re extremely similar, yet “pace of play” is a non-issue in football. Wonder why it’s being so pushed in baseball?
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I have zero issue with pace of play for baseball.
Efforts to speed up the game are efforts to placate the instant gratification crowd. I can think of way worse things to do than spending three hours at the ball park on a sunny day.
Let's work on pace of play where it's a real problem: traffic.
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
^^^
Or the front of the merch lines at PJ concerts when Dorothy Fiddlefuddle is trying on six sizes of shirts to change her mind and start again on the 3/4 sleeves.
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
How about stop trying to sell baseball to people who will never like baseball. Revenue is the highest it’s ever been. Own it
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Men in motion doesn’t count, that’s dead ball. Snap to down. Similarly there are men in motion constantly in baseball.tempo_n_groove said:
I'll disagree w the NFL" action time".HesCalledDyer said:
You have men in motion, a time clock that everyone is watching... It just seems off.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Cliffy for commish! Like the 2nd tweet I posted, if you have a problem with a 3 hour game, you just don’t appreciate baseball.Cliffy6745 said:How about stop trying to sell baseball to people who will never like baseball. Revenue is the highest it’s ever been. Own itStar Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
No NL DH though, you can keep your AL, just leave my league alone, ha!Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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Compared to football there is hardly any movement other than the infielders kicking dirt in between a pitch.HesCalledDyer said:
Men in motion doesn’t count, that’s dead ball. Snap to down. Similarly there are men in motion constantly in baseball.tempo_n_groove said:
I'll disagree w the NFL" action time".HesCalledDyer said:
You have men in motion, a time clock that everyone is watching... It just seems off.0 -
Plus compare the "action" of a baseball game to a football game.
In baseball, some(much) of that action time is a pitch that gets taken...whereas in football its 22 guys going at each other. Apples to watermelons.
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the difference is an NFL fan only has to commit 3 hours for this team 16 times a season and almost always on a weekend. Baseball plays 162 games over about 200 days. it can be hard to commit to mid-week baseball games for 3 hours. i love baseball but it's a rare regular season game i will watch at home for 3 hours straight. that being said i have very little interest in attending an NFL game. way too much standing around on the field and lots of time cold weather. living room or a bar is a perfect place to watch the NFL.HesCalledDyer said:
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All good points.pjhawks said:
the difference is an NFL fan only has to commit 3 hours for this team 16 times a season and almost always on a weekend. Baseball plays 162 games over about 200 days. it can be hard to commit to mid-week baseball games for 3 hours. i love baseball but it's a rare regular season game i will watch at home for 3 hours straight. that being said i have very little interest in attending an NFL game. way too much standing around on the field and lots of time cold weather. living room or a bar is a perfect place to watch the NFL.HesCalledDyer said:
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Yep.pjhawks said:
the difference is an NFL fan only has to commit 3 hours for this team 16 times a season and almost always on a weekend. Baseball plays 162 games over about 200 days. it can be hard to commit to mid-week baseball games for 3 hours. i love baseball but it's a rare regular season game i will watch at home for 3 hours straight. that being said i have very little interest in attending an NFL game. way too much standing around on the field and lots of time cold weather. living room or a bar is a perfect place to watch the NFL.HesCalledDyer said:
NFL and TV are a perfect marriage.
Once TV became Hi Def, watching a football game at home is hard to beat.
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