MLB 2025 Post-Season

Indifference71

igotid88 said:

You can pretty much see a lockout or strike the next CBA.

For sure.  The service time manipulation nonsense will be a huge sticking point for the players.  And I have no idea what they can do but something needs to be done with free agency.  

F Me In The Brain

Teams need to spend a certain amount of money...and they can put a clock on that as well.

HesCalledDyer

Cubs went and got Brad Brach for $3mil.  I'll take it.

Wobbie

Poncier said:

But he's bringing a World Series ring with him, maybe he can teach them something about winning.

giants win so much, they’re tired of winning! :murica:

Poncier

Padres a surprise late contender for Machado.

DewieCox

Poncier said:

Padres a surprise late contender for Machado.

Love it when teams like this join the fray. Helps ensure an asshole like Machado ends up on a basement dwelling team.

F Me In The Brain

Reds should go after Harper.  C'mon...if the frigging Pads can go after Manny?
Make a trade for the Klubot whioe they are at it

HesCalledDyer

FULL STORY HERE: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25935056/mlb-players-discussing-rule-changes-alter-game

Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association are discussing potentially drastic changes to the on-field game and economic landscape of the sport in the middle of a collective bargaining agreement, a significant departure from the past that speaks to the chasm between the parties but represents a thaw in the chill that has divided the sides, sources familiar with the talks told ESPN.

Dueling proposals from MLB on Jan. 14 and the union on Friday covered a wide range of topics, according to sources. Among them include:

• A three-batter minimum for pitchers

• A universal designated hitter

• A single trade deadline before the All-Star break

• A 20-second pitch clock

• The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum

• Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams

• A study to lower the mound

• A rule that would allow two-sport amateurs to sign major league contracts

Indifference71

HesCalledDyer said:

FULL STORY HERE: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25935056/mlb-players-discussing-rule-changes-alter-game

Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association are discussing potentially drastic changes to the on-field game and economic landscape of the sport in the middle of a collective bargaining agreement, a significant departure from the past that speaks to the chasm between the parties but represents a thaw in the chill that has divided the sides, sources familiar with the talks told ESPN.

Dueling proposals from MLB on Jan. 14 and the union on Friday covered a wide range of topics, according to sources. Among them include:

• A three-batter minimum for pitchers

• A universal designated hitter

• A single trade deadline before the All-Star break

• A 20-second pitch clock

• The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum

• Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams

• A study to lower the mound

• A rule that would allow two-sport amateurs to sign major league contracts

Interesting.  3 batter minimum for pitchers is absurd but I do agree with just about everything else on there.

Jearlpam0925

• A three-batter minimum for pitchers - I think this would be dumb.

• A universal designated hitter - I think this is an inevitability 

• A single trade deadline before the All-Star break - I think the trade deadline should be pushed further back than up and it should definitely be a single trade deadline. You should be able to trade picks as well (semi-related: baseball should have a salary floor contingent partly upon the % of revenue sharing they receive compared to the amount of their future salary obligations).

• A 20-second pitch clock - indifferent to it, but I think it'll be rarely enforced; rather should limit the amount of times the catcher & pitcher have meetings on the mound (though I think they did  something about this right?).

• The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum - saw that this would coincide with a 28-man roster in September right? I'm indifferent to the roster size change, but I don't think a team should be directed how to comprise their roster positions.

• Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams - meh? Seems dumb.

No interest in the last two bullet points.

HesCalledDyer

I dread the day of the DH in the NL.  I know it's coming, and soon.  I just don't like it. I love the strategy of National League baseball, you have to be really careful about the moves you make regarding pitchers, pinch-hitters, how & when you use your bullpen, defensive replacements, etc.  The DH removes all of that and dumbs down the game.  The NL is the thinking man's league, the AL is cro-magnon.

HesCalledDyer

Jearlpam0925 said:

• A three-batter minimum for pitchers - I think this would be dumb.

• A universal designated hitter - I think this is an inevitability 

• A single trade deadline before the All-Star break - I think the trade deadline should be pushed further back than up and it should definitely be a single trade deadline. You should be able to trade picks as well (semi-related: baseball should have a salary floor contingent partly upon the % of revenue sharing they receive compared to the amount of their future salary obligations).

• A 20-second pitch clock - indifferent to it, but I think it'll be rarely enforced; rather should limit the amount of times the catcher & pitcher have meetings on the mound (though I think they did  something about this right?).

• The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum - saw that this would coincide with a 28-man roster in September right? I'm indifferent to the roster size change, but I don't think a team should be directed how to comprise their roster positions.

• Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams - meh? Seems dumb.

No interest in the last two bullet points.

I think the roster expansion to 26 is a by-product of the universal DH.

Cliffy6745

Jearlpam0925 said:

• A three-batter minimum for pitchers - I think this would be dumb.

• A universal designated hitter - I think this is an inevitability 

• A single trade deadline before the All-Star break - I think the trade deadline should be pushed further back than up and it should definitely be a single trade deadline. You should be able to trade picks as well (semi-related: baseball should have a salary floor contingent partly upon the % of revenue sharing they receive compared to the amount of their future salary obligations).

• A 20-second pitch clock - indifferent to it, but I think it'll be rarely enforced; rather should limit the amount of times the catcher & pitcher have meetings on the mound (though I think they did  something about this right?).

• The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum - saw that this would coincide with a 28-man roster in September right? I'm indifferent to the roster size change, but I don't think a team should be directed how to comprise their roster positions.

• Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams - meh? Seems dumb.

No interest in the last two bullet points.

I love September call ups.  It will only give teams another excuse for keeping people down early in the year to keep the  year of team control, if players can't get random MLB experience at the end of the year.

Jearlpam0925

HesCalledDyer said:

I dread the day of the DH in the NL.  I know it's coming, and soon.  I just don't like it. I love the strategy of National League baseball, you have to be really careful about the moves you make regarding pitchers, pinch-hitters, how & when you use your bullpen, defensive replacements, etc.  The DH removes all of that and dumbs down the game.  The NL is the thinking man's league, the AL is cro-magnon.

I completely agree but the toothpaste ain't going back in the tube.

HesCalledDyer

Jearlpam0925 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I dread the day of the DH in the NL.  I know it's coming, and soon.  I just don't like it. I love the strategy of National League baseball, you have to be really careful about the moves you make regarding pitchers, pinch-hitters, how & when you use your bullpen, defensive replacements, etc.  The DH removes all of that and dumbs down the game.  The NL is the thinking man's league, the AL is cro-magnon.

I completely agree but the toothpaste ain't going back in the tube.

You are correct unfortunately.

Cliffy6745

The drama.  Congrats, You can do a double switch.

I'd rather watch someone that can swing the batter better than my 11 month old daughter bat.  Players are more fun than watching some schmo pull a double switch.

HesCalledDyer

Yeah, I don't count on an AL fan understanding that there is more to it than pulling a double-switch.  Enjoy your cro-magnon league.  Me have bat, me hit ball, rawr!

Jearlpam0925

Furthermore, if there's a universal DH then there should be no limit on the amount of pitchers on a roster - less reason to have more positional players and more need for pitchers.

Cliffy6745

HesCalledDyer said:

Yeah, I don't count on an AL fan understanding that there is more to it than pulling a double-switch.  Enjoy your cro-magnon league.  Me have bat, me hit ball, rawr!

Or, oh, I am so smart and cute and hipster.  I like watching pitchers feebly swing a bat because I like to think I am smarter than everyone, when in fact I just like a lesser form of entertainment.

Ledbetterman10

Adding the DH to the NL reminds me of when they started Interleague play: it's something that I don't like in theory, but will like in execution. That's rare because usually you like something in theory (that's a great idea!) but once it's executed, you don't like it (on second thought, that idea sucked!) With interleague play, I was one of those nerds that was against it and said shit like "But that's what's so cool about baseball! Each league is totally separate!" I said that at first, but once teams like the Red Sox and Yankees began coming to Veterans Stadium for games, I had to admit that it was actually pretty damn cool. 

Same thing with the DH in the NL. As much as I'd like to be purist and say "Baseball is a 9 men versus 9 men game, not 10 versus 10," more offense and less pitching changes is something I can definitely get behind.