Finally watched the Doc and Darryl thing last night. Interesting....and Doc is a shifty mother fucker in the diner -- my money is on him still using.
Yeah. Doc didn't look well at all. Hopefully he can really get his shit together at some point. It's still amazing that he was so good as a SP at 19 years old.
Finally watched the Doc and Darryl thing last night. Interesting....and Doc is a shifty mother fucker in the diner -- my money is on him still using.
I thought the same thing.
I remember watching those 86 Mets, primarily when they would beat the shit out of the cubs. Gooden was so good. And I hated strawberry for how well he used to hit the cubs.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
Anyone watch the Doc & Darryl 30 for 30 last night? I missed it.
Yeah, and Dwight Gooden is not looking well.
Was just about to say the same thing.
Houston is catching up!!!
"our" astros are looking good!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I think MLB will set a precedence to the other teams this shit won't fly. Goodell suspending Brady 4 games and taking away a 1st round pick from Pats over a little air is going to be nothing compared to the punishment Cards will get.
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Finally watched the Doc and Darryl thing last night. Interesting....and Doc is a shifty mother fucker in the diner -- my money is on him still using.
I thought the same thing.
I remember watching those 86 Mets, primarily when they would beat the shit out of the cubs. Gooden was so good. And I hated strawberry for how well he used to hit the cubs.
dudes have been beating and hitting the Cubs for 100+ years
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Finally watched the Doc and Darryl thing last night. Interesting....and Doc is a shifty mother fucker in the diner -- my money is on him still using.
I thought the same thing.
I remember watching those 86 Mets, primarily when they would beat the shit out of the cubs. Gooden was so good. And I hated strawberry for how well he used to hit the cubs.
dudes have been beating and hitting the Cubs for 100+ years
Dumb
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
This latest ESPN top 100 baseball players is already dumb and we only have 100-91. King Felix is not a top 100 player of all time. He is rated higher than Stargell, Sandeberg and Bagwell on the list.
Dumb.
Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's Fuckus rules all Rob Seattle
I read the top 10 LHP, top 10 RHP, and top 10 Catchers lists this weekend -- I thought they were pretty good picks. Trying to then mix/match I am sure if going to make some people itchy.
Saw the next 20 and I will no longer read. Bryce Harper as one of the top 100 of all time is a travesty. As a Giants fan I thought Posey was rated too high. He may end up in the top 5 catchers ever but that is all projection and has no business being in a top ever list.
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babe ruth is overrated but I'm good with Bonds at #3
honis wagner was pretty good when I saw him play.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
babe ruth is overrated but I'm good with Bonds at #3
honis wagner was pretty good when I saw him play.
Ahh, so you have seen the Cubs win it all!! No wonder you hate them, finishing directly ahead of the Giants twice from 1906-1908. Being the first team to appear in 3 straight World Series, the first to win back-to-back World Series, etc. It aaaaalllllll makes sense now!
2 things I remember about doc and darryl as pertaining to (of course) the Giants:
the 100 loss Giants of 1985 gave doc one of his 4 losses in 1985. pre internet, pre ESPN, I remember the headline of my local ohio newspaper. it was nearly unbelievable.
when darryl came to the Giants, Bonds went on a tear. then, darryl relapsed. at the time, I hated darryl, mainly because he had been a d**ger. DARE-UL, DARE-UL.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
So when I tried to copy and paste the WAR Calculations here, it was over 26,000 characters too long for this forum. By far the most overrated stat used in sports.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
So when I tried to copy and paste the WAR Calculations here, it was over 26,000 characters too long for this forum. By far the most overrated stat used in sports.
I'm a baseball fan and i don't really understand what WAR is, and how they calculated it. Is it, more or less, an opinionated stat?
I agree on WAR and let's get one thing straight about it. WAR isn't a statistic, it's a theory with a numerical value assigned to its final result. It stands for wins above replacement. It is intended to measure the number of games the team won by having that player in the lineup vs the number of games you'd expect the team to win while subbing for that player. The problem with it is that it is - no matter what any sabermetric fanboy will tell you - just a theory. There is no cut and dry measurement that tells you how many more games you win.
I agree WAR is just a theory but like it. It tries to quantify defense and base running instead of only evaluating offense. Duvall is a great example. Dude is launching homers constantly but is pretty much a drag on your team in every other facet of the game. Great player, don't get me wrong but he only excels in the flashy stats.
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I like WAR too, because of what Ani stated with incorporating defense and baserunning. Is it the end-all, be-all statistic? No, but I believe it does an excellent job of determining the overall value of a player. There have been a couple of analysis studies that have shown that a team's record based on WAR vs a team's actual record has a strong correlation.
He isnt a bad fielder. I know you are sore over trading him away but his Ks are what downgrade him. Right now Duvall is tied for #27 in 2016 Defensive WAR Leaders, however the heck that is factored.
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
So, WAR is not a concrete stat. Can't be when it's based on opinion on defense & base running.
Correct. And I don't mind using it as a consideration, but the sabermetric lovers act like it is the end-all, be-all of baseball "stats" when it isn't even a stat. Jeff Passan, for example, has this creepy obsession with Mike Trout and will write article upon article about Trout's WAR value and how he should win MVP every year.
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I remember watching those 86 Mets, primarily when they would beat the shit out of the cubs. Gooden was so good. And I hated strawberry for how well he used to hit the cubs.
we will find a way, we will find our place
Now MLB will drop the hammer on the Cards. I'm going to guess loss of draft picks and they have to sit out the next 2 international signing periods.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
MLB has to. I think it has to be bigger than that.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
we will find a way, we will find our place
Dumb.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
honis wagner was pretty good when I saw him play.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
2 things I remember about doc and darryl as pertaining to (of course) the Giants:
the 100 loss Giants of 1985 gave doc one of his 4 losses in 1985. pre internet, pre ESPN, I remember the headline of my local ohio newspaper. it was nearly unbelievable.
when darryl came to the Giants, Bonds went on a tear. then, darryl relapsed. at the time, I hated darryl, mainly because he had been a d**ger. DARE-UL, DARE-UL.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
we will find a way, we will find our place
The problem with it is that it is - no matter what any sabermetric fanboy will tell you - just a theory. There is no cut and dry measurement that tells you how many more games you win.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
Right now Duvall is tied for #27 in 2016 Defensive WAR Leaders, however the heck that is factored.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
we will find a way, we will find our place
And I don't mind using it as a consideration, but the sabermetric lovers act like it is the end-all, be-all of baseball "stats" when it isn't even a stat. Jeff Passan, for example, has this creepy obsession with Mike Trout and will write article upon article about Trout's WAR value and how he should win MVP every year.