And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
So Ernie Banks doesn't belong in the Hall then?
If Donnie Backbreak had hit over 500 HRs he'd be in. Ridiculous comparison
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
. So in the Mattingly/Puckett comparison, I wouldn't move Mattingly down any notches for having little post-season success, but I'd bump Puckett up for having it...if that makes sense.
Makes perfect sense and pretty much encapsulates my viewpoint here.
2 borderline at best candidates. One has postseason success, bumps up enough to get in. The other has none, stays on the outside where he belongs.
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
So Ernie Banks doesn't belong in the Hall then?
If Donnie Backbreak had hit over 500 HRs he'd be in. Ridiculous comparison
Well if he had played 19 seasons he might have.
He played 14 seasons and hit 222, so you think he was gonna hit almost 300 HR's in 5 seasons in his late 30's? Wow.
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
. So in the Mattingly/Puckett comparison, I wouldn't move Mattingly down any notches for having little post-season success, but I'd bump Puckett up for having it...if that makes sense.
Makes perfect sense and pretty much encapsulates my viewpoint here.
2 borderline at best candidates. One has postseason success, bumps up enough to get in. The other has none, stays on the outside where he belongs.
Then why isn't David Cone in then?
David Cone? OK now you're just fucking with me, right? Or the pinstripe colored glasses are so thick you can't see clearly.
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
So Ernie Banks doesn't belong in the Hall then?
If Donnie Backbreak had hit over 500 HRs he'd be in. Ridiculous comparison
Well if he had played 19 seasons he might have.
He played 14 seasons and hit 222, so you think he was gonna hit almost 300 HR's in 5 seasons in his late 30's? Wow.
Again. You're not taking into account the injury. And maybe he would have taken hgh or steroids by then to further his career. And even if not the hrs he would have had 3000 hits or close to it. Over 500 doubles. A .300 average. His MVP. Had 9 Gold Gloves. So possibly 3-5 more. A possible 4 World Series championships if everything else played out the same.
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
So Ernie Banks doesn't belong in the Hall then?
If Donnie Backbreak had hit over 500 HRs he'd be in. Ridiculous comparison
Well if he had played 19 seasons he might have.
He played 14 seasons and hit 222, so you think he was gonna hit almost 300 HR's in 5 seasons in his late 30's? Wow.
Again. You're not taking into account the injury. And maybe he would have taken hgh or steroids by then to further his career. And even if not the hrs he would have had 3000 hits or close to it. Over 500 doubles. A .300 average. His MVP. Had 9 Gold Gloves. So possibly 3-5 more. A possible 4 World Series championships if everything else played out the same.
Once again, if the queen had balls, she'd be king. You get entry into the Hall based on what you did, not what maybe you could have done.
And the all-time greats have the ability to carry their team to some level of post season success, not one losing series over an entire career for the winningest franchise in history.
So Ernie Banks doesn't belong in the Hall then?
If Donnie Backbreak had hit over 500 HRs he'd be in. Ridiculous comparison
Well if he had played 19 seasons he might have.
He played 14 seasons and hit 222, so you think he was gonna hit almost 300 HR's in 5 seasons in his late 30's? Wow.
Again. You're not taking into account the injury. And maybe he would have taken hgh or steroids by then to further his career. And even if not the hrs he would have had 3000 hits or close to it. Over 500 doubles. A .300 average. His MVP. Had 9 Gold Gloves. So possibly 3-5 more. A possible 4 World Series championships if everything else played out the same.
Once again, if the queen had balls, she'd be king. You get entry into the Hall based on what you did, not what maybe you could have done.
Again. What he did was still pretty good.? Enough to get brought up time and again for a vote. Koufax is in for what he could have done. Kirby is in for what he could have done. I understood why he isn't in. But if players whom I believe he is better than are getting in. Then why not him? He was a dominant player who was still a good player by the time he retired prematurely.
Koufax is in based what he could have done? Now I know you're just fucking with me.
So it's okay to count his 12 years but not Mattingly's?
I assume you are aware of the way Koufax dominated from 62-66. If Mattingly had an equivalent stretch for a hitter, he'd be in. He didn't. A stretch like that for a hitter would require like 5 years straight of triple crown contention and multiple MVPs.
And also, Koufax' 2 World Series MVP awards do add to his candidacy.
Koufax is in based what he could have done? Now I know you're just fucking with me.
So it's okay to count his 12 years but not Mattingly's?
I assume you are aware of the way Koufax dominated from 62-66. If Mattingly had an equivalent stretch for a hitter, he'd be in. He didn't. A stretch like that for a hitter would require like 5 years straight of triple crown contention and multiple MVPs.
And also, Koufax' 2 World Series MVP awards do add to his candidacy.
Mattingly had at least 4 maybe 5. He should have won the MVP a 2nd year in a row. Especially as it was better than his MVP year. But it was given to Clemens. And Koufax played at a time when first place was all you needed to be in the World Series. I'm not arguing against Koufax.
I'd put JR Richard, Mo Vaugh, Prince Fielder, Don Mattingly, Jose Fernandez, Thurman Munson, Bo Jackson all go on the "What If list".
Am I forgetting anybody?
I don't know about Bo. He was more of a hr guy. But he wasn't a good hitter.
He only had like 2 years to do anything so who knows... Bo knows though!
He played 8 seasons. Mostly 6. But enough to know what type of player he was. I mean he was a highlight.
5 before he got hurt. His last year was a big improvement average wise though. He also never came close to playing a full year so there is another reason for the whatif's? The last 3 years he was beyond his abilities.
Ultimately a good hitter he wouldn't be but a 25-35 HR hitter every year w solid defense, sure.
Koufax is in based what he could have done? Now I know you're just fucking with me.
So it's okay to count his 12 years but not Mattingly's?
I assume you are aware of the way Koufax dominated from 62-66. If Mattingly had an equivalent stretch for a hitter, he'd be in. He didn't. A stretch like that for a hitter would require like 5 years straight of triple crown contention and multiple MVPs.
And also, Koufax' 2 World Series MVP awards do add to his candidacy.
Mattingly had at least 4 maybe 5. He should have won the MVP a 2nd year in a row. Especially as it was better than his MVP year. But it was given to Clemens.
Koufax is in based what he could have done? Now I know you're just fucking with me.
So it's okay to count his 12 years but not Mattingly's?
I assume you are aware of the way Koufax dominated from 62-66. If Mattingly had an equivalent stretch for a hitter, he'd be in. He didn't. A stretch like that for a hitter would require like 5 years straight of triple crown contention and multiple MVPs.
And also, Koufax' 2 World Series MVP awards do add to his candidacy.
Mattingly had at least 4 maybe 5. He should have won the MVP a 2nd year in a row. Especially as it was better than his MVP year. But it was given to Clemens.
It's not okay to bring up the injury but it is okay make people assume he just lost his hr power out of nowhere? It's like a runner who's winning halfway through the race then brakes his leg and then you say he sucked at the end.
Koufax had 6 average years and 6 good to great years. Pretty much like Mattingly. Only Sandy was able to finish strong. Whereas Mattingly, according to you guys because "lack of talent" and not back issues was not.
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Wow.
Or the pinstripe colored glasses are so thick you can't see clearly.
You get entry into the Hall based on what you did, not what maybe you could have done.
Am I forgetting anybody?
Now I know you're just fucking with me.
A stretch like that for a hitter would require like 5 years straight of triple crown contention and multiple MVPs.
And also, Koufax' 2 World Series MVP awards do add to his candidacy.
Edit: Mixed him up with Don Sutton! Sorry!!!
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Ultimately a good hitter he wouldn't be but a 25-35 HR hitter every year w solid defense, sure.
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It's like a runner who's winning halfway through the race then brakes his leg and then you say he sucked at the end.