MLB 2024 Off Season

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

MVP early voting or Vegas odds rather, has Trout as MVP. 

Say what?!?

I love the Angels and Trout but the team stinks.

JD Martinez or Betts are more deserving.

Thoughts?

Trout hit the DL, which will hurt him.  He does every single thing so well, he is just amazing.

Agree that it will probably end up being Betts or JD.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

MVP early voting or Vegas odds rather, has Trout as MVP. 

Say what?!?

I love the Angels and Trout but the team stinks.

JD Martinez or Betts are more deserving.

Thoughts?

Trout hit the DL, which will hurt him.  He does every single thing so well, he is just amazing.

Agree that it will probably end up being Betts or JD.

Altuve too or he would be in heavy consideration too.  I love, love, love watching him play.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

NL Wildcard and Division battles are heating up!

Brewers +.5

Phillies -

Rockies -

Cardinal Assholes -

Dodgers - 2

(Pirates,Nats, Giants...6-7 out and pretty much done with all of these teams in front unless they go on a major streak)

Hoping the Brewers and Phillies go.

Anyone but those fucking Cardinals would be OK w/me.

How about the A's in the AL?!?  Where the hell did they come from?!?

Seattle is heating up too.

Will the yankees falter or is it still full steam ahead?

Cliffy6745

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I want to talk about throwing at batters.

So, my take is that batters do not fear about getting hit anymore.  They dig in every time before every pitch.  

If a batter gets brushed back then the ump gives the pitcher a warning and then the batter owns the box pretty much.

Brushing back the batter and hitting the batter are part of the game but when you have an idiot that throws at someones head then it ruins it.

I say hit em in the back or the thigh.

Cliffy6745 said:

But why?

See above explanation.

I am also a big fan of old school baseball and to watch and hear the stories of Gibson or Drysdale brushing back batters is awesome.

Hell, I loved the ongoing feud w Randy Johnson and Kenny Lofton.  Liked watching Pedro and Clemens work batters too.

Your arguments are as soft as throwing at someone intentionally.

You asked "why" and I told you.  I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but you seem to be in the minority on this as others are siding with me.

Next topic!!!

Methinks that "people on the internet agree with me" is not really the best argument for winning a debate

tempo_n_groove

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I want to talk about throwing at batters.

So, my take is that batters do not fear about getting hit anymore.  They dig in every time before every pitch.  

If a batter gets brushed back then the ump gives the pitcher a warning and then the batter owns the box pretty much.

Brushing back the batter and hitting the batter are part of the game but when you have an idiot that throws at someones head then it ruins it.

I say hit em in the back or the thigh.

Cliffy6745 said:

But why?

See above explanation.

I am also a big fan of old school baseball and to watch and hear the stories of Gibson or Drysdale brushing back batters is awesome.

Hell, I loved the ongoing feud w Randy Johnson and Kenny Lofton.  Liked watching Pedro and Clemens work batters too.

Your arguments are as soft as throwing at someone intentionally.

You asked "why" and I told you.  I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but you seem to be in the minority on this as others are siding with me.

Next topic!!!

Methinks that "people on the internet agree with me" is not really the best argument for winning a debate

Mesaid that "let's agree to disagree" too...

But if people do agree with me how does that not support my argument?!?

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

NL Wildcard and Division battles are heating up!

Brewers +.5

Phillies -

Rockies -

Cardinal Assholes -

Dodgers - 2

(Pirates,Nats, Giants...6-7 out and pretty much done with all of these teams in front unless they go on a major streak)

Hoping the Brewers and Phillies go.

Anyone but those fucking Cardinals would be OK w/me.

How about the A's in the AL?!?  Where the hell did they come from?!?

Seattle is heating up too.

Will the yankees falter or is it still full steam ahead?

Fewer teams in the AL but it is getting exciting there as well.

Yanks + 3.5

Astros/As - one is in Division slot, other 2nd WC -

Seattle -3.5

I don't see the Yanks falling below 2 teams but it could happen.  I think the Astros hold on to division and As get WC matchup w/Yanks.

Cliffy6745

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I want to talk about throwing at batters.

So, my take is that batters do not fear about getting hit anymore.  They dig in every time before every pitch.  

If a batter gets brushed back then the ump gives the pitcher a warning and then the batter owns the box pretty much.

Brushing back the batter and hitting the batter are part of the game but when you have an idiot that throws at someones head then it ruins it.

I say hit em in the back or the thigh.

Cliffy6745 said:

But why?

See above explanation.

I am also a big fan of old school baseball and to watch and hear the stories of Gibson or Drysdale brushing back batters is awesome.

Hell, I loved the ongoing feud w Randy Johnson and Kenny Lofton.  Liked watching Pedro and Clemens work batters too.

Your arguments are as soft as throwing at someone intentionally.

You asked "why" and I told you.  I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but you seem to be in the minority on this as others are siding with me.

Next topic!!!

Methinks that "people on the internet agree with me" is not really the best argument for winning a debate

Mesaid that "let's agree to disagree" too...

But if people do agree with me how does that not support my argument?!?

I was half serious, but you could say the sky is purple and people on the internet would agree with you.  The internet is full of crazy people...

cutz

tempo_n_groove said:

MVP early voting or Vegas odds rather, has Trout as MVP. 

Say what?!?

I love the Angels and Trout but the team stinks.

JD Martinez or Betts are more deserving.

Thoughts?

I think you have to throw in Jose Ramirez for Cleveland in the mix too.

Should be a interesting vote.

tempo_n_groove

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I want to talk about throwing at batters.

So, my take is that batters do not fear about getting hit anymore.  They dig in every time before every pitch.  

If a batter gets brushed back then the ump gives the pitcher a warning and then the batter owns the box pretty much.

Brushing back the batter and hitting the batter are part of the game but when you have an idiot that throws at someones head then it ruins it.

I say hit em in the back or the thigh.

Cliffy6745 said:

But why?

See above explanation.

I am also a big fan of old school baseball and to watch and hear the stories of Gibson or Drysdale brushing back batters is awesome.

Hell, I loved the ongoing feud w Randy Johnson and Kenny Lofton.  Liked watching Pedro and Clemens work batters too.

Your arguments are as soft as throwing at someone intentionally.

You asked "why" and I told you.  I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but you seem to be in the minority on this as others are siding with me.

Next topic!!!

Methinks that "people on the internet agree with me" is not really the best argument for winning a debate

Mesaid that "let's agree to disagree" too...

But if people do agree with me how does that not support my argument?!?

I was half serious, but you could say the sky is purple and people on the internet would agree with you.  The internet is full of crazy people...

To the people here on this thread that agreed w me.  

Cliffy just called all of y'all nuts!!!

lol

PS I do agree w u too Cliffy!!!

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

NL Wildcard and Division battles are heating up!

Brewers +.5

Phillies -

Rockies -

Cardinal Assholes -

Dodgers - 2

(Pirates,Nats, Giants...6-7 out and pretty much done with all of these teams in front unless they go on a major streak)

Hoping the Brewers and Phillies go.

Anyone but those fucking Cardinals would be OK w/me.

How about the A's in the AL?!?  Where the hell did they come from?!?

Seattle is heating up too.

Will the yankees falter or is it still full steam ahead?

Fewer teams in the AL but it is getting exciting there as well.

Yanks + 3.5

Astros/As - one is in Division slot, other 2nd WC -

Seattle -3.5

I don't see the Yanks falling below 2 teams but it could happen.  I think the Astros hold on to division and As get WC matchup w/Yanks.

A's are enfuego...

I'd like for them to bring up Merrell next year!!!

Cliffy6745

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Cliffy6745 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I want to talk about throwing at batters.

So, my take is that batters do not fear about getting hit anymore.  They dig in every time before every pitch.  

If a batter gets brushed back then the ump gives the pitcher a warning and then the batter owns the box pretty much.

Brushing back the batter and hitting the batter are part of the game but when you have an idiot that throws at someones head then it ruins it.

I say hit em in the back or the thigh.

Cliffy6745 said:

But why?

See above explanation.

I am also a big fan of old school baseball and to watch and hear the stories of Gibson or Drysdale brushing back batters is awesome.

Hell, I loved the ongoing feud w Randy Johnson and Kenny Lofton.  Liked watching Pedro and Clemens work batters too.

Your arguments are as soft as throwing at someone intentionally.

You asked "why" and I told you.  I'm sorry that you don't like my answer but you seem to be in the minority on this as others are siding with me.

Next topic!!!

Methinks that "people on the internet agree with me" is not really the best argument for winning a debate

Mesaid that "let's agree to disagree" too...

But if people do agree with me how does that not support my argument?!?

I was half serious, but you could say the sky is purple and people on the internet would agree with you.  The internet is full of crazy people...

To the people here on this thread that agreed w me.  

Cliffy just called all of y'all nuts!!!

lol

PS I do agree w u too Cliffy!!!

haha, I meant to caveat it by saying I like the people here, buuut...

mrussel1

Jose Ramirez for MVP.  He not only has outstanding offensive numbers, but has a .977 fielding % and a 1.0 DWAR which is outstanding for a 3rd baseman.  And his offensive numbers are crazy.  He can do it all.  2nd in HRs, tied AL lead for SB (how often does a power hitter lead a league in SB's??) and 1.036 OPS.  JD has had a great year, but he gets to rest every inning, not play the hot corner.  

Wobbie

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

F Me In The Brain

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

I'd love to see him in the National League, so my team doesn't have to face him.  He is the best player in baseball.  

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

I'd love to see him in the National League, so my team doesn't have to face him.  He is the best player in baseball.  

He does everything at a top level, every year.

Now, if he would wear a protective sleeve/glove when he runs the bases, perhaps he can avoid hurting himself again that way.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

Angels are my team and I will say that some of their front office decisions are horrible.

The Angels should be getting everything they can to help this team win but no one stays when they do short term trades for players.

Seeing players like Trumbo, Texiera, Hunter, Lackey to name a few go over the years was painful.

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

Angels are my team and I will say that some of their front office decisions are horrible.

The Angels should be getting everything they can to help this team win but no one stays when they do short term trades for players.

Seeing players like Trumbo, Texiera, Hunter, Lackey to name a few go over the years was painful.

Having lived or worked in Orange County for a period of about 15 years I went to lots and lots of Angels games.  Went through times where tickets on the field/dugouts were easy to crazy to get.  Went to a WS game there.

Even though they are not my team, I rejoiced when Moreno bought them and they made many great changes.

Would like to see them do well.

My in-laws know Trout's family.  (They are from the same area)  Where I live now everyone loves Trout.

Anyone who loves baseball probably loves the guy, he is amazing at the game and appears to be a great dude as well.

Agree on the team management.

F Me In The Brain

And....even when I lived in LA and went to that shitheep of a stadium before they opened up the outfield I still always enjoyed going there.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

sorry, trout...you’re like palmiero, putting up meaningless numbers on a meaningless team.

That is pretty silly. 

Palmeiro was a fucking juicer, like your asspal Barry. 

Trout is the best player of his generation. 

His team overreached for Hamilton, Pujols, and others and this hamstrung him.  No fault of his.

I hope he bails and goes somewhere where they will pay to play -- Phillies, Yanks, etc.

Angels are my team and I will say that some of their front office decisions are horrible.

The Angels should be getting everything they can to help this team win but no one stays when they do short term trades for players.

Seeing players like Trumbo, Texiera, Hunter, Lackey to name a few go over the years was painful.

Having lived or worked in Orange County for a period of about 15 years I went to lots and lots of Angels games.  Went through times where tickets on the field/dugouts were easy to crazy to get.  Went to a WS game there.

Even though they are not my team, I rejoiced when Moreno bought them and they made many great changes.

Would like to see them do well.

My in-laws know Trout's family.  (They are from the same area)  Where I live now everyone loves Trout.

Anyone who loves baseball probably loves the guy, he is amazing at the game and appears to be a great dude as well.

Agree on the team management.

I was lucky enough to attend the Angels Mariners game that was moved to Anaheim.  This was when parts of the Kingdome were actually falling down. We paid $10-15 for field seats.  This was when Salmon was just coming around, Griffey was great and Bo Jackson was on the team.  94ish?!?

I loved Moreno at first.  Hell, they did win a WS in 02 with that clan of crazies like Erstead and Eckstein!!!

Thanks for sharing.

I still need the Angels to do more.  Hopefully Maaitan will be great and he comes up soon.

HesCalledDyer

I totally forgot about Bo playing for the Angels.

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

I totally forgot about Bo playing for the Angels.

Do you remeber Mo Vaughn?  He's the reason why all MLB parks have those little fences in front of their dugouts...

Ahhhh, the Angels and their legacies, lol!!!

markymark550

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I totally forgot about Bo playing for the Angels.

Do you remeber Mo Vaughn?  He's the reason why all MLB parks have those little fences in front of their dugouts...

Ahhhh, the Angels and their legacies, lol!!!

I forgot he played for the Angels. I just remember him in Boston.

HesCalledDyer

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I totally forgot about Bo playing for the Angels.

Do you remeber Mo Vaughn?  He's the reason why all MLB parks have those little fences in front of their dugouts...

Ahhhh, the Angels and their legacies, lol!!!

Haha yep!  Never put 2+2 together with the dugout fences but that makes sense.

tempo_n_groove

Acuna is great.  So mad I didn't get more of his damn cards!!!

cutz

I know this is not MLB, but i thought i would post this.

I know i've NEVER seen a walk-off like this:

https://youtu.be/meLRi37oTiE

mrussel1

I don't know why, but I found it interesting that they use arabic numbers, just like we do.  

Wobbie

cutz said:

I know this is not MLB, but i thought i would post this.

I know i've NEVER seen a walk-off like this:

https://youtu.be/meLRi37oTiE

what level of ball was that?

tempo_n_groove

cutz said:

I know this is not MLB, but i thought i would post this.

I know i've NEVER seen a walk-off like this:

https://youtu.be/meLRi37oTiE

Squeeze play

cutz

tempo_n_groove said:

cutz said:

I know this is not MLB, but i thought i would post this.

I know i've NEVER seen a walk-off like this:

https://youtu.be/meLRi37oTiE

Squeeze play

Yeah i know, but the runner scored from 2nd base too, to win the game.

This was a HS event in Japan, Wobbie.