The Gaslight Anthem...

I know there's already a thread about these guys just a few rows down, but this isn't about their new album. I just picked up The '59 Sound and was digging it for a while, until they blatantly ripped off the Counting Crows... Observe:
The Gaslight Anthem - "High Lonesome":
"And Maria came from Nashville with a suitcase in her hand, I always kinda, sorta wished I looked like Elvis..."
The Counting Crows - "'Round here":
"Maria came from Nashville with a suitcase in her hand, she said she'd like to meet a boy who looks like Elvis..."
Now I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and all that rot, but I've scoured the liner notes and see nothing to the effect of: "We'd like to thank Adam Duritz for doing some of our work for us." And while looking through the rest of the lyrics (granted, with a new eye for plagiarism) I can't help but see other cases where they seem to be taking from other bands. Springsteen is obvious, and they actually do that pretty well, but I just have a hard time taking it seriously when they're trying to sell someone else's lyrics as their own.
I know there are a lot of fans in this forum, and I'm not trying to pick any fights. I know The Boss himself is a fan of theirs, but I have a problem with bands that make obvious reference (i.e. steal lyrics) and then say nothing about the influence.
The Gaslight Anthem - "High Lonesome":
"And Maria came from Nashville with a suitcase in her hand, I always kinda, sorta wished I looked like Elvis..."
The Counting Crows - "'Round here":
"Maria came from Nashville with a suitcase in her hand, she said she'd like to meet a boy who looks like Elvis..."
Now I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and all that rot, but I've scoured the liner notes and see nothing to the effect of: "We'd like to thank Adam Duritz for doing some of our work for us." And while looking through the rest of the lyrics (granted, with a new eye for plagiarism) I can't help but see other cases where they seem to be taking from other bands. Springsteen is obvious, and they actually do that pretty well, but I just have a hard time taking it seriously when they're trying to sell someone else's lyrics as their own.
I know there are a lot of fans in this forum, and I'm not trying to pick any fights. I know The Boss himself is a fan of theirs, but I have a problem with bands that make obvious reference (i.e. steal lyrics) and then say nothing about the influence.
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I quite like them and I'm sure they'll be good supporting PJ in London but there is a bit too much fuss made about them for what they are I'd agree.
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Speaking of which veddertown, are Europeans still Kings Of Leon-crazy, or have they cooled off a little bit with those guys? A couple years ago Euros we're praising Kings Of Leon like they were the second coming of Led Zeppelin.
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You're right, it's unreasonable to think that every band would list out every other band that ever influenced them. And I'm sure he would be flattered by the reference, but I wonder how many GLA fans are out there thinking that Brian Fallon actually wrote those lyrics (or close enough - let's not split hairs here). I'm just sayin give credit where credit's due.
And to be honest, I think they're pretty good. They have a good sound and they seem like basically stand-up guys (what little I've seen of them), and I assume that he writes the lion's share of his own lyrics.
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This is a pretty badass cover. I saw it a couple of weeks ago (on YouTube) and it's actually what inspired me to get the album.
Yikes. Bi-polar much?
could be a ripoff, but could be a play on the original lyric
Well, yeah, I assume that's what it is. He's saying that he wishes he was the boy "Maria" came to find... And if he had mentioned anything in his Thank You section (even just included the name "Adam" in the list) I would have no problem with it.
I know I'm just arguing semantics here, but if this was a research paper, for example, and he had used that direct of a quote without adding quotes to it, it would be tantamount to plagiarism. What if I wrote a song that said, "I hope some day I have a beautiful life, I know I'll be the sun..." then packaged it up as my own personal artistic expression without any real reference to Pearl Jam? Wouldn't you feel, on some level, that I was lying to all the fans of my music who had no idea that Pearl Jam even existed?
they did that more of a tribute to the band and things that influenced them, if you listen a ton of their songs will borrow a line from another one
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I didn't recall Eddie putting a thank you in there for John Lennon on Love Boat Captain. Same kinda thing - playing off the original lyric.
To be fair, he does say right there in the lyrics: "I know it's already been sung, can't be said enough..." At least he's acknowledging that he didn't write that bit of it - and some form of acknowledgment is all I ask.
I do get what you're saying though. And I do realized that I'm basically just jerking off here... If it sounds good, who gives a shit? (Well, apparently I do, but I'm sort of OCD about certain things.) Art takes from art, and that's just how it goes.
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Thank you Adam for breaking this out. I was thinking along the same lines knowing all the different references they drop in their songs, but was too lazy to find them/type them out.
Okay, enough of my bitching. Thanks, all.
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i think its their best effort yet, nothing completely amazing, but a solid record
It's pretty strong, though not as good as The '59 Sound. I like that they now cut it down to 10 songs.
I was quite disappointed, because I was looking forward to hearing a new band. Oh well....
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