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I recently finished up a Zinn book- and there was a part at the end of the book that really reminded me of the folks on this board............ All of the going back and forth on here is really a let down, mainly because no real solutions are made or even encouraged -- I spend a lot of time reading comments made here and made on other various forums ........ It's all the same.... is that really what life is about? It's actually pretty sad..
Anyways.... even if you make a comment with real substance, the comment eventually gets lost in all the rest of the junk being posted.....so its pretty much a lose lose situation......(i know i post junk too)
Are we trying to prove who is the most intellectual mind? Who should have the most entitlements? ..... I would suggest that we search out solutions and that we try and actually open our minds and experience what we have never before....that we encourage each other to break down our reasoning and ad more reasoning to it....so that maybe one of these days we can actually agree on something....and do something about it. ... blah ..blah..blah......blah...
So here is the part that reminded me of you folks....and also made me wonder......should I have an egg sandwich or a bowl of corn flakes?? :? :?
(I am sure there is plenty of other good material out there related to this- but like i said this reminded me of you good folks)
"1% of the nation owns a third of the wealth. The rest of the wealth is distributed in such a way as to turn those in the 99% against one another: small property-owners against the property-less, black against white, native-born against foreign-born, intellectuals and professionals against the uneducated and unskilled. These groups have resented one another and warred against one another with such vehemence and violence as to obscure their common position as sharers of leftovers in a very wealthy country.
Against the reality of that desperate, bitter battle for resources made scarce by elite control, I am taking the liberty of uniting those 99 percent of “the people”. I have been writing a history that attempts to represent their submerged, deflected, common interest. To emphasize the commonality of the 99%, to declare deep enmity of interest with the 1%, is to do exactly what the governments of the United States, and the wealthy elite allied to them- from the founding fathers to now- have tried their best to prevent. Madison feared a “majority faction” and hoped the new constitution would control it. He and his colleagues began the Preamble to the Constitution with the words “We the people……,” pretending that the new government stood for everyone, and hoping that this myth, accepted as fact, would ensure “domestic tranquillity”"
H.Z
Anyways.... even if you make a comment with real substance, the comment eventually gets lost in all the rest of the junk being posted.....so its pretty much a lose lose situation......(i know i post junk too)
Are we trying to prove who is the most intellectual mind? Who should have the most entitlements? ..... I would suggest that we search out solutions and that we try and actually open our minds and experience what we have never before....that we encourage each other to break down our reasoning and ad more reasoning to it....so that maybe one of these days we can actually agree on something....and do something about it. ... blah ..blah..blah......blah...
So here is the part that reminded me of you folks....and also made me wonder......should I have an egg sandwich or a bowl of corn flakes?? :? :?
(I am sure there is plenty of other good material out there related to this- but like i said this reminded me of you good folks)
"1% of the nation owns a third of the wealth. The rest of the wealth is distributed in such a way as to turn those in the 99% against one another: small property-owners against the property-less, black against white, native-born against foreign-born, intellectuals and professionals against the uneducated and unskilled. These groups have resented one another and warred against one another with such vehemence and violence as to obscure their common position as sharers of leftovers in a very wealthy country.
Against the reality of that desperate, bitter battle for resources made scarce by elite control, I am taking the liberty of uniting those 99 percent of “the people”. I have been writing a history that attempts to represent their submerged, deflected, common interest. To emphasize the commonality of the 99%, to declare deep enmity of interest with the 1%, is to do exactly what the governments of the United States, and the wealthy elite allied to them- from the founding fathers to now- have tried their best to prevent. Madison feared a “majority faction” and hoped the new constitution would control it. He and his colleagues began the Preamble to the Constitution with the words “We the people……,” pretending that the new government stood for everyone, and hoping that this myth, accepted as fact, would ensure “domestic tranquillity”"
H.Z
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
i remember watching this song live in AZ (its only been performed a handful of times) ....I miss you AZ....
Godfather.
I would definitely agree. The conflict perspective is far to easily applied to every situation implying some sort of sinister plot.
That being said, I don't think a thread is the place you will ever find a solution to anything. I think of it more as a place to share ideas and the questions we have about others ideas and possibly get some insight into how a person reached a conclusion. Not so much to find a solution to a problem(especially the serious topics that can be discussed) but to share new ideas with others that they might not have thought about. I sometimes get a little heated when I feel that my ideas are called something they aren't meant to be and I definitely need to remind myself of what these threads are for, but if you are looking for answers you need look no further than your own mind. You will never convince all the people all the time to act in a certain way.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan