Pakistani arrested in Times Square car bomb attack

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Wow talk about some good police work... :D


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_times_square_car_bomb

By TOM HAYS and COLLEEN LONG, Associated Press Writers – 22 mins ago
NEW YORK – A Pakistani man believed to be the driver of an SUV used as a car bomb in a failed terror attack on Times Square was taken into custody late Monday by FBI agents and local police detectives while trying to leave the country, U.S. officials said.
The suspect, Faisal Shahzad, was identified by customs agents at John F. Kennedy International Airport at about 11:45 p.m. Monday and was stopped before boarding an Emirates airlines flight to Dubai, according to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials. Shahzad is a naturalized U.S. citizen and had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife, according to officials who spoke to The Associated Press early Tuesday on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.
Shahzad was being held in New York and couldn't be contacted. He has a Shelton, Conn., address; a phone number listed there wasn't in service. Investigators were searching his home.
The U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District in Manhattan will handle the case and said Shahzad would appear in court Tuesday on formal charges, but those charges were not made public.
Holder said the U.S. "will not rest until we have brought everyone responsible to justice," suggesting additional suspects are being sought.
Law enforcement officials say Shahzad bought the SUV, a 1993 Nissan Pathfinder, from a Connecticut man about three weeks ago and paid cash. The officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case.


Police said the bomb could have produced "a significant fireball" and sprayed shrapnel with enough force to kill pedestrians and knock out windows. The SUV was parked on a street lined with restaurants and Broadway theaters, including one showing "The Lion King," and full of people out on a Saturday night.
The vehicle identification number had been removed from the Pathfinder's dashboard, but it was stamped on the engine, and investigators used it to find the owner of record. The discovery was paramount to the investigation.
"The discovery of the VIN on the engine block was pivotal in that it led to the identifying the registered owner," said Paul Browne, chief New York Police Department spokesman. "It continues to pay dividends."
Officials say the SUV's registered owner, whose name has not been released, was not considered a suspect in the bomb scare.
Investigators tracked the license plate found on the rear of the SUV to a used auto parts shop in Stratford, Conn., where they discovered the plate was connected to a different vehicle.
They also spoke to the owner of an auto sales shop in nearby Bridgeport because a sticker on the Pathfinder indicated the SUV had been sold by his dealership. Owner Tom Manis said there was no match between the identification number the officers showed him and any vehicle he sold.
As the SUV buyer came into focus, investigators backed off other leads. They had initially wanted to speak with a man apparently in his 40s who was videotaped shedding his shirt near the Pathfinder. Officials said it's possible he was just a bystander.
In Washington on Monday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Saturday's attempted bombing was a terrorist act.
The motive remained unclear. The Pakistani Taliban appeared to claim responsibility for the bomb in three videos that surfaced after the weekend scare, monitoring groups said. New York officials said police have no evidence to support the claims. It was unclear if the suspect in custody had any relationship to the group.
The SUV was parked near offices of Viacom Inc., which owns Comedy Central. The network recently aired an episode of the animated show "South Park" that the group Revolution Muslim had complained insulted the Prophet Muhammad by depicting him in a bear costume.

The date of the botched bombing, May 1, was International Workers Day, a traditional date for political demonstrations, and thousands had rallied for immigration reform that day in New York.
Security also had been tight in the city in advance of a visit to the United Nations by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a nuclear weapons conference.
The SUV was captured on video crossing an intersection at 6:28 p.m. Saturday. A vendor pointed out the Pathfinder to an officer about two minutes later. Times Square, clogged with tourists on a warm evening, was shut down for 10 hours. A bomb squad dismantled the explosive device, and no one was hurt.
The explosive device had cheap-looking alarm clocks connected to a 16-ounce can filled with fireworks, which were apparently intended to detonate the gas cans and set the propane afire in a chain reaction, police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
A metal rifle cabinet placed in the cargo area was packed with fertilizer, but NYPD bomb experts believe it was not a type volatile enough to explode like the ammonium nitrate grade fertilizer used in previous terrorist bombings.
The amount of fertilizer was unknown. Police estimated the cabinet weighed 200 to 250 pounds when they pulled it from the vehicle.
President Barack Obama telephoned handbag vendor Duane Jackson on Monday to commend him for alerting authorities to the smoking SUV. The White House said Obama thanked Jackson, of Buchanan, N.Y., for his vigilance and for acting quickly to prevent serious trouble.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    A US citizen....
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    redrock wrote:
    A US citizen....

    Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials. Shahzad is a naturalized U.S. citizen and had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife,

    a naturalized citizen :
    One who, having been born in another country or otherwise reared as a foreigner, has been granted U.S. Citizenship and the rights and privileges of that status. The process by which such a person attains citizenship is called NATURALIZATION. 8 U.S.C. §§1421 et seq. The person seeking naturalization must satisfy the burden of establishing good moral character and must be a resident of the United States for five years. 8 U.S.C. §1427.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    The person seeking naturalization must satisfy the burden of establishing good moral character[/b]"] and must be a resident of the United States for five years. 8 U.S.C. §1427.

    Little did they know what this new American would be doing.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i guess when he got to the question on his visa application that asked, do you intend to participate in terrorist activities whilst in the US?, he ticked the no box.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Just like when you come in immigration in the US... you're asked if you intend to kill the president! Not to mention telling the truth about carrying drugs!

    I would have thought that the naturalisation services would have done more than thorough checks, giving his country of birth. Just shows how easily one slips through.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    redrock wrote:
    Just like when you come in immigration in the US... you're asked if you intend to kill the president! Not to mention telling the truth about carrying drugs!

    I would have thought that the naturalisation services would have done more than thorough checks, giving his country of birth. Just shows how easily one slips through.

    but pakistan is our friend. ;)8-)
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Someone who watched the first three seasons of 24 could have probably covered their tracks better then this guy. Hopefully the terrorist camps never get a Direct TV package.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    redrock wrote:
    Just like when you come in immigration in the US... you're asked if you intend to kill the president! Not to mention telling the truth about carrying drugs!

    I would have thought that the naturalisation services would have done more than thorough checks, giving his country of birth. Just shows how easily one slips through.

    but pakistan is our friend. ;)8-)

    Well they must be OK because they're 'allowed' to have nuclear weapons.....
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Jason P wrote:
    Someone who watched the first three seasons of 24 could have probably covered their tracks better then this guy. Hopefully the terrorist camps never get a Direct TV package.
    I laughed at this.

    I agree, good police work.
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  • riffrandallriffrandall Posts: 685
    Jason P wrote:
    Someone who watched the first three seasons of 24 could have probably covered their tracks better then this guy. Hopefully the terrorist camps never get a Direct TV package.
    I laughed at this.

    I agree, good police work.


    Right? What the headline really means is "Idiot Arrested in Times Square Attack". Pakistani has nothing to do with it, the guy was just an out & out moron.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    A US citizen....

    Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials. Shahzad is a naturalized U.S. citizen and had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife,

    a naturalized citizen :
    One who, having been born in another country or otherwise reared as a foreigner, has been granted U.S. Citizenship and the rights and privileges of that status. The process by which such a person attains citizenship is called NATURALIZATION. 8 U.S.C. §§1421 et seq. The person seeking naturalization must satisfy the burden of establishing good moral character and must be a resident of the United States for five years. 8 U.S.C. §1427.
    ...
    What is the point you are trying to make here? Are you stating that there is there a difference between a Naturalized Citizen and a native born citizen? Are Naturalized Citizens not as good as American born Citizens?
    What is your point, here?
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    What is the point you are trying to make here? Are you stating that there is there a difference between a Naturalized Citizen and a native born citizen? Are Naturalized Citizens not as good as American born Citizens?
    What is your point, here?


    :roll: No cosmo... redrock said us citizen. I was only being specific. It could have been or someone who doesnt like the new healthcare bill according mayor Bloomberg

    http://wcbstv.com/local/car.bomb.suv.2.1670823.html
    Bloomberg later told CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric that the suspect behind the bombing attempt could be a domestic terrorist angry at the government who acted alone.

    "If I had to guess 25 cents, this would be exactly that. Homegrown, or maybe a mentally deranged person, or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything," he said.

    "There is no evidence here of a conspiracy, there is no evidence that it's tied into anything else. It looks like an amateurish job done by at least one person," he told Couric./quote] :roll: :roll:



    update:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_ ... are_arrest
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    What is the point you are trying to make here? Are you stating that there is there a difference between a Naturalized Citizen and a native born citizen? Are Naturalized Citizens not as good as American born Citizens?
    What is your point, here?


    :roll: No cosmo... redrock said us citizen. I was only being specific. It could have been or someone who doesnt like the new healthcare bill according mayor Bloomberg

    http://wcbstv.com/local/car.bomb.suv.2.1670823.html
    Bloomberg later told CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric that the suspect behind the bombing attempt could be a domestic terrorist angry at the government who acted alone.

    "If I had to guess 25 cents, this would be exactly that. Homegrown, or maybe a mentally deranged person, or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything," he said.

    "There is no evidence here of a conspiracy, there is no evidence that it's tied into anything else. It looks like an amateurish job done by at least one person," he told Couric./quote] :roll: :roll:



    update:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_ ... are_arrest
    ...
    So... in other words... you had no point. Naturalized Citizens are no different from U.S. born citizens. You just posted that to say... he was a Naturalized Citizen... not a U.S. (born) citizen... but it doesn't mean anything. You had nothing to say... so you said it.
    Got it.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    What is the point you are trying to make here? Are you stating that there is there a difference between a Naturalized Citizen and a native born citizen? Are Naturalized Citizens not as good as American born Citizens?
    What is your point, here?


    :roll: No cosmo... redrock said us citizen. I was only being specific. It could have been or someone who doesnt like the new healthcare bill according mayor Bloomberg

    http://wcbstv.com/local/car.bomb.suv.2.1670823.html
    Bloomberg later told CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric that the suspect behind the bombing attempt could be a domestic terrorist angry at the government who acted alone.

    "If I had to guess 25 cents, this would be exactly that. Homegrown, or maybe a mentally deranged person, or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything," he said.

    "There is no evidence here of a conspiracy, there is no evidence that it's tied into anything else. It looks like an amateurish job done by at least one person," he told Couric./quote] :roll: :roll:



    update:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_ ... are_arrest
    ...
    So... in other words... you had no point. Naturalized Citizens are no different from U.S. born citizens. You just posted that to say... he was a Naturalized Citizen... not a U.S. (born) citizen... but it doesn't mean anything. You had nothing to say... so you said it.
    Got it.

    Well, isn't a Naturalized citizen a citizen of the US?

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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    What is the point you are trying to make here? Are you stating that there is there a difference between a Naturalized Citizen and a native born citizen? Are Naturalized Citizens not as good as American born Citizens?
    What is your point, here?


    :roll: No cosmo... redrock said us citizen. I was only being specific. It could have been or someone who doesnt like the new healthcare bill according mayor Bloomberg

    http://wcbstv.com/local/car.bomb.suv.2.1670823.html
    Bloomberg later told CBS Evening News Anchor Katie Couric that the suspect behind the bombing attempt could be a domestic terrorist angry at the government who acted alone.

    "If I had to guess 25 cents, this would be exactly that. Homegrown, or maybe a mentally deranged person, or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything," he said.

    "There is no evidence here of a conspiracy, there is no evidence that it's tied into anything else. It looks like an amateurish job done by at least one person," he told Couric./quote] :roll: :roll:



    update:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_ ... are_arrest
    ...
    So... in other words... you had no point. Naturalized Citizens are no different from U.S. born citizens. You just posted that to say... he was a Naturalized Citizen... not a U.S. (born) citizen... but it doesn't mean anything. You had nothing to say... so you said it.
    Got it.
    Nationalized citizens that travel to Pakistan and are terrorist are not the same as a born citizen....he should never have been given citizenship
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    g under p wrote:
    Well, isn't a Naturalized citizen a citizen of the US?

    Peace
    ...
    Yes... they are. That was why I was confused when the aspect of Naturalized Citizenship was raised.
    If there isn't a difference, why bother to raise it as an issue. If it IS an issue... what is the basis of the issue?
    None was given, therefore, it was an empty statement.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    redrock wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Just like when you come in immigration in the US... you're asked if you intend to kill the president! Not to mention telling the truth about carrying drugs!

    I would have thought that the naturalisation services would have done more than thorough checks, giving his country of birth. Just shows how easily one slips through.

    but pakistan is our friend. ;)8-)

    Well they must be OK because they're 'allowed' to have nuclear weapons.....


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    Even before the Bush Administration decided to invade Iraq, the immediate decision to bully Musharraf into compliance defined the shape of the policies that the President would adopt toward a far larger peril that had seemed to wane after the Cold War, but now was clearly on the rise: the gathering nuclear danger. President Bush proposed what was, in fact if not in name, an imperial solution to it. In the new dispensation, nuclear weapons were not to be considered good or bad in themselves; that judgment was to be based solely on whether the nation possessing them was itself judged good or bad (with us, that is, or against us). Iraq, obviously, was judged to be "against us" and suffered the consequences. Pakistan, soon honored by the administration with the somehow ridiculous, newly coined status of "major non-NATO ally," was clearly classified as with us, and so, notwithstanding its nuclear arsenal and abysmal record on proliferation, given the highest rating.

    That doctrine constituted a remarkable shift. Previously, the United States had joined with almost the entire world to achieve nonproliferation solely by peaceful, diplomatic means. The great triumph of this effort had been the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, under which 183 nations, dozens quite capable of producing nuclear weapons, eventually agreed to remain without them. In this dispensation, all nuclear weapons were considered bad, and so all proliferation was bad as well. Even existing arsenals, including those of the two superpowers of the Cold War, were supposed to be liquidated over time. Conceptually, at least, one united world had faced one common danger: nuclear arms.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Nationalized citizens that travel to Pakistan and are terrorist are not the same as a born citizen....he should never have been given citizenship
    ...
    According to who? You? Are you the 'Citizenship Police'?
    And according to you... it would have been okay if a U.S. born citizen would have tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square?
    No one is defending this guy... we all hate his ass for being such an fucking asshole and we hope he spends the rest of his life at Rikers with the hardcore criminals. We don't give a shit where he was born. And no one gave us the clairvoyance to spot future criminals... like the gift you apparently possess.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Nationalized citizens that travel to Pakistan and are terrorist are not the same as a born citizen....he should never have been given citizenship
    ...
    According to who? You? Are you the 'Citizenship Police'?
    And according to you... it would have been okay if a U.S. born citizen would have tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square?
    No one is defending this guy... we all hate his ass for being such an fucking asshole and we hope he spends the rest of his life at Rikers with the hardcore criminals. We don't give a shit where he was born. And no one gave us the clairvoyance to spot future criminals... like the gift you apparently possess.


    i saw that movie. it had tom cruise in it.


    and jeez cosmo you know all pakistanis are terrorists. in fact anyone from that part of the world is always suss. ;)
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Nationalized citizens that travel to Pakistan and are terrorist are not the same as a born citizen....he should never have been given citizenship
    ...
    According to who? You? Are you the 'Citizenship Police'?
    And according to you... it would have been okay if a U.S. born citizen would have tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square?
    No one is defending this guy... we all hate his ass for being such an fucking asshole and we hope he spends the rest of his life at Rikers with the hardcore criminals. We don't give a shit where he was born. And no one gave us the clairvoyance to spot future criminals... like the gift you apparently possess.


    i saw that movie. it had tom cruise in it.


    and jeez cosmo you know all pakistanis are terrorists. in fact anyone from that part of the world is always suss. ;)


    that movie was so horrible...maybe it was the acting. it was funny how tom cruise would stand on that ramp to try and hide how short he is :mrgreen:
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    aerial wrote:
    Nationalized citizens that travel to Pakistan and are terrorist are not the same as a born citizen....he should never have been given citizenship

    Wow I just saw this. This says a lot about you aerial and you are the one who says we're not a racist country.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    so let me get this straight, naturalized citizens are not real americans? the naturalization process is not easy, and if the majority of those born here would be required to know some of the things that the naturalized ones have to learn i think we would be a better country.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    so let me get this straight, naturalized citizens are not real americans? the naturalization process is not easy, and if the majority of those born here would be required to know some of the things that the naturalized ones have to learn i think we would be a better country.

    I totally agree, my brother in Law had to go through the naturalization process and it was a 3 year ordeal. My sister pulled him through it ALL he had to learn and he's 10 times better for what he now knows. All with the help of an expensive immigration lawyer, I feel for those who can't afford one.

    Peace
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    g under p wrote:
    so let me get this straight, naturalized citizens are not real americans? the naturalization process is not easy, and if the majority of those born here would be required to know some of the things that the naturalized ones have to learn i think we would be a better country.

    I totally agree, my brother in Law had to go through the naturalization process and it was a 3 year ordeal. My sister pulled him through it ALL he had to learn and he's 10 times better for what he now knows. All with the help of an expensive immigration lawyer, I feel for those who can't afford one.

    Peace
    seriously...look at what your average born citizens do, most of them do not vote and most of them could probably not pass a 9th grade civics exam or an american history exam. they generally know the first and second ammendments and that's about it....yet they think that naturalized citizens are not "real" and are unworthy of the same rghts as "born" citizens or that they somehow do not belong here...
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    seriously...look at what your average born citizens do, most of them do not vote and most of them could probably not pass a 9th grade civics exam or an american history exam. they generally know the first and second ammendments and that's about it....yet they think that naturalized citizens are not "real" and are unworthy of the same rghts as "born" citizens or that they somehow do not belong here...

    I think having the right to vote is important, but not being forced to vote just as important. I would rather the people who willfully choose to stay uninformed on issues stay home on election day no matter who they would have voted for. And choosing not to vote isn't always laziness. It is also about not liking your choices. In 2004 I didn't vote for the president on my ballot because I did not like any of the choices I had. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
    And saying the average citizen can even give you the first and second amendment is reaching...but I don't think most would tell you that naturalized citizens are not real and unworthy.
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