Is our society regressing?

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Byrnzie wrote:

Bill Foster: I'm the bad guy?
Sergeant Prendergast: Yeah.
Bill Foster: How did that happen?

Excellent!

unsung

It started when people had to be politically correct.

he still stands

Byrnzie wrote:

Bill Foster: I'm the bad guy?
Sergeant Prendergast: Yeah.
Bill Foster: How did that happen?

That is a fantastic movie. These guys both have an excess of shit cast upon them, yet one of them is able to remain stoic. Kind of like Buddha keeping his hand on the ground amidst the tumult of the world. Then again, Bill Foster shows us all how crazy this world has become and may have done a greater good for society by exposing these injustices.

It is eerie how similar my life is to Bill Foster's. Divorce, PFA (even though SHE hit ME... I didn't do shit), was laid off, and all of the fucked up things that I posted earlier...

I guess the point is that everyone goes through these bad times, in every generation, in every part of the world. It is important to “go placidly amidst the noise and haste." I think Joseph Campbell said that... The Hero's Path. Yeah, walk the hero's path!

mikepegg44

I don't know if it is getting worse or not. It seems like the 24 hour news cycle has made it seem like it has. It also makes it seem like the murder rate in the country is increasing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... cades.html

I am concerned about MTV and the combining of fiction to reality tv and the influences of that behavior on the kids who watch it.

So i don't know if it is getting worse or not, but it sure is getting more coverage.

Byrnzie

he still stands wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Bill Foster: I'm the bad guy?
Sergeant Prendergast: Yeah.
Bill Foster: How did that happen?

That is a fantastic movie. These guys both have an excess of shit cast upon them, yet one of them is able to remain stoic. Kind of like Buddha keeping his hand on the ground amidst the tumult of the world. Then again, Bill Foster shows us all how crazy this world has become and may have done a greater good for society by exposing these injustices.

It is eerie how similar my life is to Bill Foster's. Divorce, PFA (even though SHE hit ME... I didn't do shit), was laid off, and all of the fucked up things that I posted earlier...

I guess the point is that everyone goes through these bad times, in every generation, in every part of the world. It is important to “go placidly amidst the noise and haste." I think Joseph Campbell said that... The Hero's Path. Yeah, walk the hero's path!

'The Hero with a thousand faces'. Great book.


'Is the system going to flatten you out and deny you your humanity, or are you going to be able to make use of the system to the attainment of human purposes?'
Joseph Campbell

'Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble.'
Joseph Campbell


'God is a metaphor for that which trancends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that.'
Joseph Campbell


'Life is without meaning. You bring the meaning to it. The meaning of life is whatever you ascribe it to be. Being alive is the meaning.'
Joseph Campbell

South of Seattle

he still stands wrote:

Last weekend I was kayaking, a friend and I stopped at a big boulder in the middle of the river, anchored our boats and just were chilling on the rocks. A helicopter circled above us and with a loudspeaker told us to leave the area.

I have a warrant out for my arrest for driving on a suspended license. But I've proven to the State of PA that there was never any reason to suspend it. They did so because they said I was driving without insurance, which I have proven to them to be untrue. But the DMV and the State Police apparently cannot communicate because the police are looking to arrest me, even though I went to the county police station and resolved the issue there.

On NPR this morning they presented 2 ways to deal with Iran's nuclear capabilities: Preemptive attack and regime change. So... the liberal media says we must go to war with Iran.

My employer gives me 7 days of vacation the entire year, which includes days I call off sick. I had the flu earlier this winter so I'm down to 4 days the rest of the year, and I live paycheck to paycheck because the dollar's purchasing power is a fraction of what it once was. Basically, I'm an indentured servant.

Any brown person is now suspect in Arizona.

Medical pot is going to be much harder to get now in CA.

People are still killing each other over fairy tales.

My net pay is 52% of my gross pay because spousal support is ridiculous... even though she left me.

I can't go camping in this state without paying $23 or going to a private campground.

The US is still fighting 2 wars in the middle east, but the primary hotbed of terrorist activity is in southeast asia.

Mankind just ruined the Gulf of Mexico.

The US has over 5,000 nuclear weapons but doesn't want any other countries to have any, unless those countries are the UK, France, or Israel (and Russia is okay because of MAD). The logic behind this baffles me.

Global climate change is unquivacablly real, but for some reason people are denying it. I guess so they can continue driving SUVs and living in 5,000 sq ft mansions guilt-free.

I heard someone say "irregardless" today.

Sarah Palin is alive.

..........


so, yeah.

catefrances

unsung wrote:

It started when people had to be politically correct.

oh thats just bullshit.

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I guess I was thinking more about lack of empathy and critical thinking skills. (Which is not to say that everything's not intertwined.) Anyone have thoughts on this?

Byrnzie

scb wrote:

I guess I was thinking more about lack of empathy and critical thinking skills. (Which is not to say that everything's not intertwined.) Anyone have thoughts on this?

Talk to the hand!

unsung

catefrances wrote:

unsung wrote:

It started when people had to be politically correct.

oh thats just bullshit.

Oh really?

Care to offer anything to say otherwise?

It started then because that is the time where a generation stopped being told no. It started when kids weren't given trophies for the winning team, instead everyone got one so nobody would feel bad. It started when they played a organized game such as baseball or soccer and they didn't keep score because nobody wanted to be a loser. It started when Mommy and Daddy would rather just buy that candy at the grocery store than listen to a temper tantrum. It started when parents would buy their kids video games instead of making them go outside and play. It started when parents turned the television into a babysitter.

Like the song says it started when the boy was something that Mommy wouldn't wear.

catefrances

unsung wrote:

catefrances wrote:

unsung wrote:

It started when people had to be politically correct.

oh thats just bullshit.

Oh really?

Care to offer anything to say otherwise?

It started then because that is the time where a generation stopped being told no. It started when kids weren't given trophies for the winning team, instead everyone got one so nobody would feel bad. It started when they played a organized game such as baseball or soccer and they didn't keep score because nobody wanted to be a loser. It started when Mommy and Daddy would rather just buy that candy at the grocery store than listen to a temper tantrum. It started when parents would buy their kids video games instead of making them go outside and play. It started when parents turned the television into a babysitter.
Like the song says it started when the boy was something that Mommy wouldn't wear.

how is any of this being politically correct???

society started regressing when it all became about the individual and NOT society. when governments started kowtowing to big business. when no one would take responsibility for anything and when people started excusing anti social behaviour.

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unsung wrote:

catefrances wrote:

unsung wrote:

It started when people had to be politically correct.

oh thats just bullshit.

Oh really?

Care to offer anything to say otherwise?

It started then because that is the time where a generation stopped being told no. It started when kids weren't given trophies for the winning team, instead everyone got one so nobody would feel bad. It started when they played a organized game such as baseball or soccer and they didn't keep score because nobody wanted to be a loser. It started when Mommy and Daddy would rather just buy that candy at the grocery store than listen to a temper tantrum. It started when parents would buy their kids video games instead of making them go outside and play. It started when parents turned the television into a babysitter.

Like the song says it started when the boy was something that Mommy wouldn't wear.

Please provide a definition for political correctness.

Your last few examples are of lazy parenting, not political correctness.

I'd love to know Ed's thoughts on your interpretation of his lyrics.

unsung

It all flows together. When people said spanking was abuse and we became hyphenated Americans is when this started. We are raising a nation of crybabies and are so afraid to offend someone.

It also started due to a decline in family values.

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unsung wrote:

It all flows together. When people said spanking was abuse and we became hyphenated Americans is when this started. We are raising a nation of crybabies and are so afraid to offend someone.

It also started due to a decline in family values.

Oh give me a fucking break! :roll: People chosing to hyphenate their names caused society to lose their empathy & critical thinking skills? Please demonstrate how this is true. OtherwiseI think it's one of the most stupid things I've heard in a long time.

unsung

Not their names, duh.

I'm talking about Italian-American, African-American, German-American, instead of just being Americans.

unsung

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/ca ... inco-mayo/

This is what I'm talking about. Things like suspending a first grader for bringing a set of finger nail clippers, stupid crap like that.

inmytree

unsung wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/california-students-sent-home-wearing-flags-cinco-mayo/

This is what I'm talking about. Things like suspending a first grader for bringing a set of finger nail clippers, stupid crap like that.

while this is stupid, how is this leading to any sort of regression in our society...?

OutOfBreath

Byrnzie wrote:

'The Hero with a thousand faces'. Great book.


'Is the system going to flatten you out and deny you your humanity, or are you going to be able to make use of the system to the attainment of human purposes?'
Joseph Campbell

'Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble.'
Joseph Campbell


'God is a metaphor for that which trancends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that.'
Joseph Campbell


'Life is without meaning. You bring the meaning to it. The meaning of life is whatever you ascribe it to be. Being alive is the meaning.'
Joseph Campbell

Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna check out a couple of his books now. Actually sounds damn close to what I've been looking for to complement my reading of the bible recently. (Not a convert, just reading the damn thing to see what it actually says, and I'm halfway through the OT, and the status is still "horrified" on my part.)

Peace
Dan

JOEJOEJOE

Socially, I think our society is getting better in terms of equality for race, gender and sexual orientation.

However, in terms of economic disparity, politeness & selfishness, our society is going to hell!

OffHeGoes29

Society isn't changing, its the growing use of mass media and communication brings people out of their bubble and see how f'd-up people can be. People are still the same as they were 5000 years ago, you know get to see this in real time all over the world.

My only problem is that its one sided, you only hear about the bad shit because it sells, there are just as many good stories and people out there that never get the attention.

just my 2cents